Chad (@packtothefuturepodcast) went to a Portland Fire game with his wife while he was still learning the WNBA. The crowd drew him in. Chelsea Gray tied a three-point record that night, and a card he bought afterward became the one that means the most in his WNBA collection.

Katelyn (@coldlunchcards) talks with Chad about becoming a Fire fan, choosing which players to collect, and building a collection while the team builds its history. They also get into what past collecting decisions taught him about buying cards that hold meaning, even when a player moves on.

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