hello and welcome to the football card podcast this is it you made it it is friday and you are listening to the fastest growing podcast in the entire world that's centered on football cards and most importantly football cards i'm your host john a k a pat nicholson and with me as always is mister stacking slabs himself brett how are you doing i'm feeling tired yeah it's a long long week i was i was thinking about that just the the day that all these people come back all these mainly guys come back from the national and especially with kids it's like you come home and it's like okay child is yours now back to responsibilities that your significant other has been handling for three four days straight that it is now your turn and it's like well wait no i'm tired too i just spent days running around looking at cardboard what what about my break but i i was just funny i feel like i saw on instagram like just people getting back home and just thinking about that recovery day is just very funny to me so how yeah how are you doing the this is what i can tell you and i haven't really thought about it until like this morning where when i've when i'm like sunday when i got up i left early to get back so i could take over child responsibility i left lowe's hotel in rosemont illinois and drove directly to my parents' house because my wife had some relief my parents watched the my two oldest daughters so i just picked them up from their house and so i i was yeah i had a pretty good cruise home on sixty five stopped in crown point got a coffee and felt really good and got my kids it was great to see them see my wife hang out with family but like monday morning when i woke up i just felt like depleted tuesday same feeling and then today wednesday it just it's still the same and i realized that the fact that i not only like i went to fanatics fest and just did this and then stayed an extra day because my flight got canceled then the week in between fanatics fest and national it was like pedal to the metal because i was trying to catch up from the week prior but then also prepare for the week of me being out from a content perspective and then you have the national and so i just feel like i'm i'm in i'm on like the most vicious cycle of sleep deprivation of all time but that's what coffee is for i had a great time i'm glad to be back in the saddle but i just i'm hoping this i can get recovered on the sleep but i thought i got decent sleep i i did stay out later than i normally would if i were at home or on the weekend but man it was fun that that's the the message was for me it was fun it was great to get so much positive sentiment around stacking slabs around the football card podcast i was a little overwhelmed to be honest with you in terms of like people stopping and saying something to me and it was it was just good validation for what we're doing we threw a wrestling card event takeover that was crazy i did content all day shout out our sponsor card ladder they're literally the best like they absolutely rocked it gave me space to do content and just great people but yeah i had so many conversations it was nonstop unfortunately it wasn't until like saturday my last day that i actually could like be a collector and walk around and check everything out and i saw some amazing cards and had some great chats with people during the show but it was it was certainly one for the ages i'm not sure i hope i i'm not i'd i'm not saying i'm not going to go to fanatics fest next year because i would but i i hope it's no i hope there's like enough time in between the two events because the two back to back is just too much for me yeah that and i didn't go to fanatics fest but it had it affected work and then comic con san diego comic con is in the middle which is another just massive event that requires attention and effort on just from a work front and like those three three weeks in a row are you kidding me that's not that's like doing three majors three weeks in a row so you gotta spread those out a little bit at least a week in between give me a little bit of a break but yeah from from your front though just going to new york then back and then to chicago that's a lot and yeah same thing like i was feel like i was just running all over the place at the show did not didn't get to talk to as many people collectors and stuff this year as previous years but i had on friday like a two three hour window where i was like no i'm looking at cards i'm gonna try and find something to buy like the main goal i was like i gotta find something for my daughter like i'm gonna find like i said i'm bringing something home and now i have three hours to activate that so what am i gonna find where's a spider man card where's a batman card like because i'm priced out of disney i don't know if you've noticed but dude it's not disney world paying attention yes yeah so priced out of disney i had a failed negotiation for a spongebob card which was a little fail at that well so i'm just like looking through cases and i see this like topps chrome spongebob base card just sitting like raw in a thing i'm like oh perfect like five dollar spongebob card i'm like can i see that card or like how much for that card and he looks at it and he goes twenty dollars i was like a base card yeah it's a base card i'm like this is not twenty dollars and so i'm like ten and he's like you know what are comps and i'm like alright so i pull up card ladder shout out card ladder and i find the most recent sale for that card was fifteen dollars and so i was like alright fifteen dollars cash right now and he's like eighteen and i was like can we do can we do fifteen i was like it's for my daughter he's like nice try i was like i'm not lying dude it's a spongebob card offering fifteen dollars cash and he's like eighteen i was like alright forget it walked away i just couldn't i wasn't i wasn't gonna break it you don't wanna do business with those types yeah and i wasn't breaking another five for this spongebob card come on the so i wouldn't i don't know if you picked up on this but i was like trying to source people or dealers and get some feedback so what i gathered it was very very hard hard for dealers to keep up with inventory that was like a hundred a hundred to like you know five hundred dollars it it felt felt like that stuff was just flying and some of the speculation which i would love to hear from anybody who's listening to this who was set up who was dealing higher end some people were saying that it might have been more challenging to move bigger cards at the show but all all the dealers that i interacted with all looked exhausted and all were like dude we're on our like back inventory right now and it's like we're not sure like how much of this is even gonna last people were buying cards like crazy people were paying full sticker on stuff i on saturday i was just like standing observing like i would stand in between like two two setups and i would just listen because i like the negotiation side of it it's fun and dude it was just cards were freaking flying man it was it was nuts and it was i don't know like do you feel like the setup this year it certainly felt bigger than ever that's i i think i that's gotta be true just in terms of people but the show itself just it felt different it just felt like a bigger show equipped and prepared to not only satisfy the needs of the football card collector but satisfy the needs of someone who wanted to you know go interact and meet with brands and you know talk with you know maybe about work that sort of thing it just there was obviously the crazy activations card ladder was across from like the courtyard basketball shot and people were just erupting left and right but yeah i don't know it's just bigger than ever final measuring stick for me it's like when you this is how every year this is my measuring stick it's like how big is the show and i measure it by when i walk out to go to my hotel room that little corral area where everyone's waiting for cars it's like how many sig smokers do we have how many people are smoking joints right here like what's the and dude i felt like i was at a cypress hill concert like leaving i was like dude this is insane it's like where's where's be real right now where's insane in the membrane i wanna come hang out but that's it was just the madhouse man yeah the that's a good call of leaving just the facility how crowded that was the bottleneck at the escalator is also another oh boy yeah just the escalator line and then once the stair line starts backing up because i like i stopped taking the escalator you know by thursday because it's just always packed and i'm like nope i'm i can get the steps in let's do it but sometimes then the staircase was backed up and then that just at the top of that escalator going into that upstairs area was just i'm surprised i'm not sick it was just you know it felt like i was living back in new york like going down into the subway of just shoulder to shoulder everyone's doing the little penguin walk you know trying to inch forward but then you throw in giant card cases into the mix yeah and then it felt busier than years past especially yeah like once it i feel like once noon hit it was just packed everywhere yeah and that's still my biggest gripe i feel like i saw so many cards but i feel like i saw none at all that's how i feel yeah it's like did it like what did i even see what just happened it was just all a blur i i'm still waiting for people to start doing like give me the like fast food led screen behind you that is showing what's in your case because half the time you like walk up to someone's case and there's two people already there someone's got their backpack on the case someone has their zion on the case and like i can't i can't see what's in there and they're just asking this dealer if they're buying and then the dealer is like not interested but it's like alright i'll take a look and then they're not interested and then they just spent ten minutes covering all the cards and i saw nothing and so i don't know that's my my one of my gripes is just i saw every card but i saw none at all i did like i did like how segmented things kinda felt i feel like the whatnot thunderdome in that whole area was just kinda like on its own off to itself yeah i could just like avoid it but if you like went past that i like you could find that there was like that cove of extra dealers like where like like slab stocks was back there and like nas was back there like with his nineties stuff so i don't know i just even the last day and this happens every national but i always feel like i'm discovering a whole new section like towards the end or it's where there's sort of labyrinth or something yeah there are certain aisles i walk down twenty times i'll be like oh yeah i've seen this i've seen this i've seen this then all of a sudden i just stumble upon an area where there's another hundred tables that i never saw so it's awesome i think my heaven would be going to the national but i'm the only customer and i could just spend yeah but everyone's set up all dealers are there that would be the best look at everything and talk to the dealers in a nice calm environment but super duper vip yeah yeah what do i have to pay to be the to have a private national experience one one thing i'll say and i just have to i have to get this off my chest and i am a proponent of free speech it is a great thing that we have we can say what we want and everybody can exercise their voice and opinions on what they want and what they like what they don't like and i'm gonna exercise my freedom of speech to complain about the complainers mhmm mhmm the the individuals that just bitch and complain about everything it's like give me a break it it's it's you can't have it both ways you can have cards you want that you have you can't have you can't desire them to continue to go up in value so you can sell them for all time highs and then on the other side bitch about what's happening with sports cards in the industry from an infrastructure and growth perspective if you don't like it just move on like don't pay attention to it this this hobby whatever you wanna call it is growing at scale which brings in opportunities to service a variety of participants in this space some people like to collect and hold the cards forever some people like to flip some people like to do breaks some people like to shoot content with cameras go figure let's promote the hobby the but that's a problem i just think the old guard or individuals in the old guard just need to understand or maybe just be a little bit flexible to see that this is never going back to the way that you envision utopia of the hobby going into your dingy card shop where it smells like cigarettes and you know you can find a a grail and then resell it for you know thousands of dollars like it's more competitive there's more people there's more technology there's more money there's more companies there's more everything and so i just think we need to be a little more adaptable and accepting and if you don't wanna accept it like just like why are you rude why are you pissing in everyone else's cheerios like just enjoy the fucking show that's that's that's my feedback yep talk to him i just had to get that off my chest that's been stewing yeah but it's a it's a valid call like this is what it is now and there's something for everyone too like if the national is too much like you don't have to go to the national like nope there's or like there are ways to enjoy the national where none of that should bother you like if you had the time you could patiently just go down the lunch line of the showcases and just see what you want and talk like you don't have to run all over the place and do it like all these things that you know you might wanna complain about or like you don't have to be on camera or film stuff like i don't know p yeah i've seen yes people complaining about all the facets of it and i don't know it's still the place with the most cards ever in one area like enjoy that go see the cards the this this this this will never be custom tailored to your wants and desires exactly how you see fit that's yeah i just think you just gotta you gotta adapt you gotta evolve but man it's the excitement around cards and football cards specifically feels like it's at an all time high which is exciting it's very fun and it motivates me to be able to get up here each and every week to talk about football and dude we've got our guys back on the field like we're halfway through training camp already so it's it's a good time man i'm excited to get in here it's episode fifty nine do you have any do you have any final national notes before we kinda get into is this the is this the last episode of linebacker summer dude this is this is episode fifty nine linebacker summer is coming to an end yeah two last notes one shout out mister and missus black hat cards legends met up with them because i was gifted a two thousand two finest refractor chris carter one of the memorabilia i was missing that that come now i now have thirteen out of the fourteen of the veteran memorabilia refractor patches so a a needed piece i was so pumped to get that when i found out he was giving me that like on the way to meet him i was like i have to find a villain card or some sort of bad person card and so i was like where's an oj card let me find just like a shitty vintage oj card pro pro said oj yeah but i couldn't i i struck out but so the to the black hat card fan some i will find something i'm i told them i'm waiting for someone like current to commit a crime and then i'm gonna have send them that card first so it'll be fresh because they've already he already has everybody who's you know it's it's gotta be a a rookie villain i've got a merchandise idea so when we we get into the t shirt business how fun would it be how how nerdy would a niche would this be to have a t shirt of just it's like two thousand two finest just the memorabilia guys like the guys from on the memorabilia side as one collection of human beings so when you look at the shirt everyone can just understand who's got memorabilia in their card if they're going out collecting a a fine set from two thousand two i think that i'm a buyer there's at least i know you are out there who would buy that shirt i know you are what size are you we'll get you we'll get you in we'll get you in your shirt i'll go large i like having a little little room yeah and then twenty fifteen prism football boxes i brought two of them i ripped one at the like psa set registry dinner because we there's always like boxes that get ripped there pretty much struck out i did hit a rookie optic gold vinyl auto of i can't even remember his name now desmond desmond lewis for the bills never heard of him no but then so and then i was gonna rip that next box later but ended up going out went to the casino i was playing baccarat till like two am which was baccarat is awesome by the way my maybe my new game of choice but then and this was friday night and i was leaving saturday morning and i got back to my hotel it's like two fifteen am i have to pack but there's a box of twenty fifteen prism sitting on that shelf still and i was like you know what i'm gonna rip this box by myself and it was so much fun i did hit a twenty fifteen prism gold vinyl jordan matthews wide receiver you hit a gold vinyl hit a gold vinyl true gold medal of the eagles so i hit a gold vinyl in each box which feel like that's pretty good yes odds and i reached out to philly special cards yes that's who i was gonna say you should go to the there and i was just like i just hit this do you want it and he's like yes so have that going out to him that felt good to not only like hit a card like that like the the thrill of seeing the gold vinyl like i sweated it i did everything you know that a breaker does i saw the edge of the gold vinyl i'm like oh my god this is gold vinyl i'm gonna hold this day debut year hold it till the end and they look awesome they look so good the twenty fifteen so yeah i still have two more boxes of twenty fifteen prism that i think we have to rip on stream for footballcard pod for the start of the season so that sounds like fun that the fact that i hit two gold vinyls in the first two to me is like there's a gold vinyl in every box or that means these next two are gonna be absolute duds i don't know yet but yeah so fun to to rip a product i feel like did you get any did you pull any violet mosaic out of fifty no nothing else really of note i hit like a blue wave cam newton that just kinda looks cool as like a color match and a like a marshawn green something lot all the rookie autos were just duds like i was like i don't know who these people are it's a rough rough year it's a rough year yeah but a couple base brady cards and some inserts a silver julio jones so yeah but it was fun doesn't it's it's all about the fun twenty fifteen is so nice man i just i think it's a great year yeah and it's still they like i got those boxes when they were like two hundred bucks each i think they're up to like three hundred now which that's still i don't know i'd rather kinda rip a box of twenty fifteen prism than a brand new box of touch chrome or something i don't know but yeah any other final notes from you just no not nothing particular just i had fun talking about the footballcard pod with so many people so shout out to you the loyal listener people one of the like things that i got validated on was the fact people which i we've been publicly talking about it on here and i talk about it on some of the other shows but i like to know how you're listening because this whole platform is built for the on the go busy professional this is what stacking slaves is built on and so many people validated my thinking about my investment in the premium audio experience by saying i listen to you when i'm dropping my kids off i listen to you when i'm going on runs in the morning lot of lot of runners in the card community but yeah man i don't have time to just watch youtube i don't i can't and and if i do when i am sitting down i'm not watching card youtube so we're gonna continue to bring the best football card quality audio of all time here on stacking slabs because you all appreciate it and that feedback was great so thank you all yes that was always it was like humbling to always hear people talk about that they listen to the football card pod because in my mind it's it's me and you on a zoom talking about football cards and it's like i know people listen to it but then like people listen to it and it's like oh wow this is this is cool this is a thing so shout out the loyal listeners of the football card podcast you are the best we gotta do a football card trade night activation next year like that that the wrestling card takeover looked amazing i was like that is so cool we need that for the football card community next year something and everyone can bring some boxes just ripping some old product football cards maybe we get a guest speaker a guest signer like a daryl chad ocho cinco daryl jackson i saw by the way i saw chad ocho cinco like i i've like that i'm like dude that's chat and dude right by the card ladder booth i'm like yep just walking around yeah so maybe we can invite him chet that see that's just too big of a name in my in my mind it would be great if that that speaker is like a like a one time pro bowler like give me a david boston give me give me a who's like another football card pod guy that we you know some running back that had lorenzo neal sprawls sprawls sprawls would be a good one lorenzo neal just i'm just imagining the promo of like you know people are like oh the the whatnot party with golden ball and speed and it's like the football card podcast with vontes burfitt vontes burfitt and lorenzo neal signing i yes i would love to figure out how we can do that i think i was saying this to you before we hit record the highlight of my national was wrestling card takeover and it was validation for how we're building and developing and designing content here on the stacking slabs network by creating category specific shows like we're doing here and then the next step of that would be well can we bring people together we got we had three hundred and fifty shirts printed they were gone within the first hour there were more people it was nuts man but it was so cool because everyone there just wanted to talk about wrestling and wrestling cards and so definitely a highlight for my week and so my wheels are already spinning it's like well how can we do this next year for a football card so we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll get to work we've got a whole calendar year we'll see what strings we can pull but but hopefully we can bring that to everyone next year yep episode fifty nine the finale of linebacker summer and there is only one currently as of recording wednesday august fifth one linebacker one player in the hall of fame to wear fifty nine jack hamm as of in like two weeks there'll be another which we'll we'll get to him but jack hamm linebacker for the pittsburgh steelers four time super bowl champion six time first team all pro eight time pro bowler just a beast and the one thing i just like to call out about jack hamm his career stats include twenty one fumbles recovered and thirty two interceptions so i think it was he has the most takeaways in nfl history by a non defensive back with fifty three and there's something there's just something about thirty two interceptions from a linebacker that i'm like hell yeah i'll give me linebackers who are getting picks like that's we kinda were talking i think about tremaine edmonds like being tall getting interceptions i don't know something yeah i love the hard hitting linebacker i love the you know neck roll linebacker but the versatile reading the d linebacker getting interceptions there's something something about that that is fun but another fifty nine who will soon be a hall of famer you wanna talk a little about him yeah i wanna talk about luke kuechly but before i do that i have to do an honorable mention now that we're talking about interceptions and it just my brain exploded gotta shout out kato june kato jun was was a he was on he was on the starting linebacking core of the super bowl team but at one point he had i'm looking he's got twelve career interceptions i felt like it should be more because maybe it was o five he had five he had like those five of like the first five weeks of the season i was like this guy's an interception machine so shout out kato jun but geek lee let's see here what is what a stud it's almost he feels very much like andrew luck to me where it's almost like did that guy just did he did he really happen and ironically they share the same rookie year so twenty twelve to twenty nineteen he is the second youngest player ever inducted in the hall of fame behind gale sayers so how about that i think he's the linebacker of the era this era certainly he was the defensive player of the year in his second year twenty thirteen defensive rookie of the year in twenty twelve five time first team all pro second time sec second time second team all pro two time i should say and then he was the combined tackles leader in two years he finished his career with one thousand ninety two tackles twelve and a half sacks eighteen interceptions seven forced fumbles two fumble recoveries and two touchdowns i was doing some studying on and trying to get some stories around him for this and the sentiment across the board and maybe his legacy is just one of the smartest players in nfl history he used to his gimmick was he used to go pre snap during the like when the quarterback is like you know getting the formation everything right he used to like yell out what play that they were that the offense was gonna run and it was like always right because he was just he knew exactly what was going on so certainly a wonderful player i i did some investigation on his sales history and i feel it feels like to me like his cards i don't know if they're locked away in a collection or whatever but they should be selling for more so like for instance his gold prism rookie which it's a sick card from twenty twelve first year prism in twenty one during the peak of the hobby in the covid era they sold for a thousand dollars so that's wild his highest selling card of all time is twenty four hundred dollars which is the twenty three autograph black shimmer one of one and a psa ten so this guy is one of the best football players ever and his cards sell for nothing yeah i feel like i even remember he had like a twenty thirteen finite or something just sitting on ebay maybe it was just a twenty thirteen truegold there was an awesome yeah keyclay card sitting on ebay for a while then i'm like should i buy this because he's awesome and this is an awesome card but yeah that is surprising high sale i figured he'd have something closer to three four five thousand dollars that prism goal when i saw that i did not realize he was twenty twelve and that's funny because i went down the same path of like wow he's like him and luck are kind of interesting yes there like and and then i'm like how what does luck will luck ever get in the hall probably not probably not he probably needed like because kuechley played eight full seasons luck played six full seasons and i at ninety five full seasons five and a half seasons for luck but eight seasons getting in the hall for kiekle that's pretty pretty crazy so luck probably needed another two or three really high level seasons to to be there i don't wanna deviate from linebacker summer but did you by chance see andrew luck throwing footballs on the internet this week i did not that's not so zach ertz is recovering from injury and he was at stanford and he must've needed someone to throw him footballs but luck was just bought dude it looked like a training camp video i was like get back on the field man get back on the field it was awesome dang yeah no that i feel like your algorithm yeah it's just all lost that one missed mine i'm watching bear safety kobe bryant go down in training camp out eight to ten weeks uh-huh and i'm very my my feed is very bears coded of course yes but yeah shout out luke keighley shout out andrew luck in which then by the way i was on andrew luck's pro football reference andrew luck's career completion percentage sixty point eight caleb williams is sixty point three i don't ever remember the completion percentage discourse for andrew luck being a thing that was never a thing re re just just for my own just to warm my heart will you andrew luck's last year of playing football read his stats well his last year he really helped his cause he had they went ten and six sixty seven percent completion four thousand five hundred and ninety three yards thirty nine touchdowns fifteen interceptions comeback player of the year only took eighteen sacks so he he had that awareness going and then rushing i feel like he was moving only a hundred and forty eight rushing yards yeah he toned it down a little bit after the lacerated kidney i can't believe i'm surprised he only took eighteen sacks in sixteen games in eighteen you know i yep those early years he was getting beat up but yeah his rookie year fifty four percent completion his second year sixty percent so chill out everybody that's that's all i gotta say the the completion plays are are way i think so i need this season to start so that the completion plays but they're gonna oh they're gonna be watching their effort every throw dissected alright episode fifty nine let's get into some questions first up from pack to the future podcast what football card stopped you in your tracks while walking the national floor i'll i'll just say it we've seen it on the internet so much via instagram stories and that would be the twenty seventeen black finite of patrick mahomes one of the most important cards i would say of the era i actually got a chance i was walking around and bumped into rob i was like that's the old price and rob and i got a chance to chat a little bit and you know he is just a he's he's a man of he's got his firm ways of how he wants to operate but you know we talk and it's great it's it was i asked him about the mahomes he was giving me a little background on it being there and this and that and so that card is incredible like it's just an amazing card so it was i've never seen it in person it was cool to see it in person yeah what a card like true like i've seen it on instagram but there is something about seeing it irl that is pretty powerful i i feel like wasn't seeing i don't know again i feel like there was nothing in a case that i mean i'm sure there were awesome cards but the ones that jump out to me are more of the like personal favorites like i talked to jason chicago bears cards he had some of his like cutler finest super fractures with him that for me personally i'm like oh my god these this is more exciting to me than seeing like a brady flawless or you know mahomes kaboom so those were awesome and saw talked to josh johnson for a little bit and went through his cards and just unreal collection like sean alexander's super fractors le'veon bell gold vinyl all the finites you know that he has just love fantasy football players love rare cards that's just a very it's a pack nicholson coated collection right there so enjoy that did you get to see the gym master manning at heritage i didn't i saw it all over socials but i didn't get a up close look at it so i i felt like i saw it in the most optimal way possible it was on saturday when i was just being a dude walking the floor and i ran into drake and i i ran into drake several times shout out drake i had a good time always good time hanging drake was like do you wanna go see the manning and i was like of course i do this is i've got all the time in the world let's go and we we saw it and drake was like you know if you take he had like his phone out he's like if you take it and you like look at it from this way it gives this effect and i like turned my head and saw it i was like okay like i get it like i i of course like i'm still not like i don't think it's like the the greatest looking card of all time but it is i have i leave the national with a better impression based on me seeing the card in person which i thought was good and i mean get your popcorn out i mean that card especially i get the let's put these big cards at our booth let's run these auctions because the amount of foot traffic those activations get is insane and if you've got the funds to be in the game for big cards like seeing it in person and then going home thinking about it it's like it's gonna increase like your the likelihood that you're gonna put in a strong bid so that is like one little storyline that i think is never really discussed but it's so smart it makes so much sense like i love that yes seeing those irl changes things and like i totally understand that that card in person would look better than a scan interestingly interestingly enough one night i ran into brady hill who was like the owner of that card auctioning that card and got to talk to him for a while and what a what a great awesome collector collection just insane stories but was cool to hear just about the hub and like that's what the national is it's so fun to like meet some of these people in real life that like you follow on instagram or have you know just heard about or seen some of their collection and then you get to talk to them and hear their collecting stories collecting advice wisdom it's the only time really that of the year that you get to talk to other people who are sickos like us so did you did you did you stop him no so i was with my good friend mikey mikey and hobby we were stopping at his hotel for a pit stop before going to the casino and at the hotel bar mikey's like oh that's brady like he knew him and so just went over and sat down with him and had a couple drinks and just talked talked to cards and i was like this is sick just talking talking the hobby with his collection's insane like it's one of the most insane collections i've ever seen yeah his collection is nuts i i had a moment where i i got a workout in and i was starving this was at the lowe's hotel and i was like i'm gonna go shower first and i was like i'm too hungry and i want coffee too bad i was like it was a very it was a lighter workout i'm like i i can towel off and like you know sit by myself and eat this breakfast and i go i go like get in my booth at the what's the name of the restaurant there do you remember the aberdeen is that what it's called oh like in the lowe's yeah yeah something with an a again yeah so i sit down and as i'm sitting down and getting my coffee like i'm on my phone and i i like look up and like right as i look up it's just gary v just i'm like this is like this is like in no other place but the national is you know you're gonna be breaking bread in the same breakfast room as the hype beast himself yeah good good little breakfast buffet overpriced though i mean oh see i i ordered direct i'm not a buffet guy i just i was like i'm just gonna go off the menu i i did after my long run with josh and shout out josh for organizing the runs every year it's becoming a tradition and it's fun i i go for the steak and eggs i just i just did it it's like of course it cost a lot of money but i was like i'm gonna treat myself why not yeah that's a good call i did the do the buffet for just speed of like i can get in and eat but like then if i'm if you're doing that you're not coming away ahead on the buffet because that's right it's like thirty bucks for all you can eat in theory but if i'm just in there to eat a quick breakfast it's like i just paid thirty dollars for eggs and three pieces bacon and some some fruit like i i i would like to sit down for two hours and put in some work here that's why yeah yeah next year we'll do the buffet and block out two hours yeah breakfast break maybe that's when we just it's not about breaking at night it's about yeah breaking in eggs now we're now we're talking now we're talking alright next up from chargers p c sports cards so first his first statement i think this is referring to us giving so much praise to quest asker of the year candidates tkd tickets and bullet card crew because he goes fyi these guys coming in hot last second getting too much hype for question asking there needs to be something said for consistency and continuity so shout out chargers pc sports cards throwing down the gauntlet and saying hey i'm here too chargers versus chargers crime i love it yeah i think we might be the number one chargers podcast in the nation chargers football card podcast in the nation he says one question or onto the question and this has multiple parts you've been hired by panini full team licenses no restrictions you've been asked to design a card of your favorite player front and back tell us who's the player what's the image what do the borders and base of the card look like is it numbered colors shine etcetera and what's on the back of the card this is such a detailed question appreciate you chargers pc sports card so my first thing that always comes to my mind is the image of and i've got it hanging in my office signed in a nice it's presented in a nice frame is the the image of bob sanders kissing the super bowl trophy so i would probably do like a bob sanders kissing the super bowl trophy with we don't real we even really need to be full borders it can be it can be full bleed just just bob kissing the trophy it's just gonna be a it's gonna be a one of one and it's this year of product that we're dropping has a special moment for team collector so every team collector gets a special moment and there's only one of one and the colts version of that is this bob card so on the back of this card it's gonna just be like a it's almost like self motivational like copy on the back about like you being a fan of your team so there's gonna be a version for each of of you and it's gonna highlight the moments so obviously they're gonna talk about super bowl forty one with the image but that's something to that effect is and it's gonna be shiny it's gotta be shiny so that's what no autos because if it's panini i gotta live in the reality that if it's a shiny card and it's i guess it could be optic and it could be a nonsticker auto but yeah i don't know i don't i almost want this to be a new product so i i don't wanna associate it with a brand but it's gonna be it's gonna be shiny yeah i like that that see the bears don't have a moment like that for me so i was like i went with my boy priest holmes he has an iconic touchdown pose like when he crossed the plane he kinda like spread his arms and held the ball out feel like give me that picture on the front of a card make it a black one on one and on the back it's just it's got stats it's talking about how he scored sixty six touchdowns in a thirty eight game stretch and like i i feel like that could be the set where it's just crazy stats on the back like tomlinson's mvp season or just other people who had unreal stretches just focusing on statistics kinda like i feel like impeccable does something like that mhmm where like you know there'll be a a numbers kind of the focus but that would be on the back i want a cool pick on the front probably yeah like a black finite pattern as well next up from tkd tickets last week you said quote i think the ship might have sailed for me with with a josh allen card end quote i wanted to pull that apart a bit i say something similar i miss the boat for lots of things in general it's my way of saying something is a lot more expensive now but when i really dig into it hobby wise usually it is something that wasn't in my collecting focus at the time so i didn't really miss out for the few things that i really did miss the boat on for reasons like availability budget confidence in the hobby or just not the right time in my life i've actually gone back and gotten some of them and paid the premium it makes me wonder what are the cards that the ship may have sailed at the time but are still in your sights to add to your collection so i my when i read this question the first thing i thought of was just there's like two my mind went to peyton manning cards and there's just too many peyton manning cards to count but i think that it's a decision that i my equity in my collection has increased which makes the opportunity more manageable so if these cards presented themselves i would want them and i could make the decision to sell off part of my collection to get them but then there's access and the access to those cards is a roadblock and so you have to have all of these things aligned it's like you have to have you you already understand you you love the card and you might not you might know you should have bought it five years ago but it's more expensive now but it's like that having that card come at a moment where you're comfortable and you want it enough to get rid of your collection to fund it it's like all those things have to happen and there's a lot of paid manning cards for me that kinda fall into that category so that's where my mind went that's a good call i feel like i i've got stuck trying to parse the difference between the ship sailing and missing the boat is there a difference i don't know that's what i'm wondering like if if the ship has sailed can you still get to that ship eventually like via another ship like the ship is still sailing or if you missed the boat like same thing it's like is it over like i don't know is there i think you can i think you can like you'd have to pay money to get on like a speedboat to then catch up and then so you can jump into the boat yes money solves anything yes it's not it involves money is the answer because like i've used the term miss the boat and in my experience it's not football related but twenty thirteen select gold basketball i have i'm collecting that i remember when there was a kobe bryant just sitting on fanatics collect and a curry went to auction and they both ended around like five or six k which at the time i just didn't i i don't know i wasn't that didn't have the conviction in the set or it wasn't a main chase whatever those cards are now much much more expensive i think i missed the boat on those at the same time because he mentions something of like makes me wonder what are the cards that the ship may have sailed at the time but are still in your sights to add to your collection which makes me think another you could be on another ship that sails towards the ship that you met the boat that you missed i'm on a sailing ship to the missed boat should we call should we call the captain thirty seven to help us set sail and and find go on a voyage to to get on track i think so i think that's what needs to happen here but in theory if those cards came up like i could probably get them if i sold like everything yeah you sold you sell all your other gold so you can get the the main yeah so like they're still in my the ship has sailed but they're still on my sites is is what he's saying i don't know maybe yeah just get on a plane that's that's the answer find new pastures next up from j cuts seven one three i'm curious about how others display their cards lots of money goes into the cards but then not as much time and care into how they are displayed could be just me but i don't see many cool setups given how much time and money goes into finding long term pc cards this is a great topic because i think there is this conversation that exists that has never really been explored and you have the display people and you have the non display people and the display people can't understand why the non display people don't have display display people can't understand why the nondisplay people don't have display and then the nondisplay people can't understand why the display people invest in having the display and it's a big big division in this hobby and i think this is a fun conversation so i i try to think about this for myself i'm a nondisplay guy and i have been a display guy but i've been a display guy when i've been a figure collector and i've gotten the figures on display i've i have ikea cases all this stuff and to me like figures are i prefer them to be displayed i'm not gonna as much as i would love to like you know pull out you know stone cold and rock elites and have wrestlemania seventeen and do the match and like with the ring myself i feel like i might have grown past that a little bit but the cards i i i fear the display i've got three kids you know that's a central piece piece of focus if you've got displays like your your children are interested in the what's in those displays i go to my parents' house my my mom has displays of like those precious moments oh yeah she's got cases of this and my kids are like magnets to it every time so no go on display for me i try to keep the least amount of attention in my house to my cards as humanly possible they are in my closet in a case in the dark but what's fun about it is because whenever i'm feeling down whenever i need some motivation i go into that dark closet i grab my cards out of the case and i just pop open the top and i just get to spend some time spending that's how i spend my time it's therapeutic but yeah not a display guy but i know people are i know timmer timmer's cards big shout out to tim he created like himself handyman created a insane display system for his cards in his case so that's cool but yeah i don't think i i don't ever see myself being a card display guy but i respect cool displays when i see them absolutely i laughed out loud when i saw your note that was like timmers built one i keep my cards in a box that that was it very simple yeah i i was i was like i was i was in a time construct i was trying to just talking points on the dock like remember to say this keep my cards in a box same and then i'm over here googling precious moments priest homes precious moments chicago bears i was like make them well i was like have they done like nfl collabs and of course they have so there's tons of precious moments bears related but then i was wondering if there's specific players because shout out precious moments truly an og collectible oh dude yeah i precious moments the santa villages those villages that are built we like i'm like you know what like there's a reason why i'm obsessed with what i like it's like it's the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree yeah we've got a nice little the you know like the light up christmas houses that you get and you like build the village of strictly bars bars that okay like we've just got i was like i wanna make like a stretch that's just like a bar crawl where it's like bar pub billiards bar so i think you look like four or five now and it's it's that's cool yeah i was like i don't need the town hall city hall i don't need the like shoe repair store i don't need the the windmill store just give me give me some pubs so merry christmas merry christmas i have like a few choice cards on display in this bookshelf over here mainly like i have a couple bears vintage cards that just look cool aesthetically and then i have a mike brown rookie card i had to have mike brown get some representation but beyond that i don't have anything else visible i have i'm tempted by those like three by three framed slab things for like a wall you know it's like you can have like nine cards in a like slab case on a wall where then i would like rotate out different lineups each week depending on like where the bears are at what what juju i need to happen what what the vibes need to be like maybe defense has been lacking lately so i fill it all with like bears defend defensive greats that hasn't happened yet that just doing like a permanent install for a card display is another barrier i feel like even just having some out on this bookshelf is one one hurdle getting a getting cards installed on a wall becomes like another different conversation with the wife and family and same thing with them with kids around it just becomes a magnet for like mhmm i want like these are play things i wanna play with them mhmm alright final question a two parter from drake's pc who is one player who had they stayed on one team their entire career you think would be more highly regarded similarly who is one player who is that is more highly regarded because they played on multiple teams i this this is the first part of the question yeah this is like actually this first part of the question has two has two questions drake somehow trojan horse like four questions into this question okay so the this was like when i read the question the two that instantly came to my mind were on the first if a player would have just stayed on one team odell beckham junior was the first guy that i can i thought of because i'm not sure he is just live like he's remembered in the moment of being a giant in that catch and he was so popular during that time that i don't know like the rest of i know he on this rams super bowl run like he obviously got hurt but like he had some moments there but i just feel like as a if he would've stayed in new york the entire time that would have maybe helped this case and then i feel like deion sanders because he played on just like monster teams you know he started on the falcons but you know playing for the cowboys and the forty niners and he he could throw the the ravens in there but i just i i just feel like that maybe helped his case out a lot because exposure to fan bases and that sort of thing so those are the two that came to my mind yeah and the fact he like won with multiple teams yeah you're like anyone who is gonna be known for or more highly regarded for playing for multiple teams you had to win on multiple teams like anyone else kinda just gets like oh they're jumping around ring chasing whatever it may be but so i think dion great example there i think manning and brady too again the fact that other places and they won is a positive i think someone who could have if they stayed on one team their whole time brandon marshall brandon marshall has unreal career stats played fourteen seasons played for six different teams in fourteen years the bron the broncos was his longest tenure with four seasons and he was on the bears for three other i think the jets for two yeah just kind of was like bouncing around did a year with the giants did a year with seattle so if his career was just on one team he is mike evans his his stats are literally pretty much mike evans who i think is mike evans is more highly regarded because he stayed on one team where if mike evans was bouncing around i don't think he's as highly regarded so does okay so i've mentioned this but i was in the building the day brandon marshall broke the single game receptions record like it was insane it was in indy and i was like this guy's a beast does mike evans' legacy gets hurt now that he's in san francisco no i don't think so either like he put in such twelve years thirteen thousand yards yeah under the touchdowns his stats are alright i take that back his stats are better than brandon marshall's yeah i thought brandon marshall's i thought they might brandon marshall's close though brandon marshall who again though has at this point played two more seasons than mike evans had twelve thousand four hundred yards eighty three touchdowns okay so mike evans at thirteen thousand hundred and eight touchdowns is pretty sick if you break a hundred touchdowns you're all time in my opinion no doubt and then alright drake's second question which i like this because this kinda i was like good call out drake he says you both often mentioned collector to collector acquisition stories as being one of the best parts of the hobby when it comes time to sell for whatever reason it's often easier to just throw cards in a box and send to auction but doing that robs another collector of a cool acquisition story like you may have had with those cards other than speed and ease what factors do you both consider when deciding whether to move cards privately for sending to auction so rob is a very aggressive word drake i don't yeah that's a i i wanna just state that upfront and i will say this selling directly is for me it's very circumstantial there has to be a lot of different things in play part of the reason is i'm not spending my time selling cards because i don't want to i don't want to i don't like if if you if you have asked me about a card for a long time and i like you and i'm getting ready to sell it then i'll i'll give you a crack at it that's about it if i see you're building something and a card i have might help you and i know i like you the key here is i like you i like you like i'll give you a crack at it before auction but i just i i spend way too much time in this space the way it is the last thing i'm going to do is like do story sales and like manage those conversations then like individually ship shit out like i'm not gonna do it it just i don't wanna do it it takes up way too much time it is way easier for me to put the cards in a box and send them to consignment i am never trying to sell a card because i have to get more for it because i paid a certain amount that's not how i think about cards it's i think about cards in batches and i think about acquisition i'm getting and i need cards to fund it so the auction format is just way easier and the other thing is and people are so scared of them i love when my cards are up for auction i love following them i love that that sunday night is entertainment for me you know how people spend money buying the breaks and they're like oh i lost two hundred dollars but it was entertainment my entertainment is like getting my kids down on a sunday and being like oh shit i've got cards ending tonight and just watching them end it's awesome like anybody listening has to enjoy that feeling that feeling is unmatched even when the cards go for less than i expect i love that wire to wire action following it all week boom so i'm not robbing anybody of anything if they want the experience they can bid on the damn card so that's my mindset and mentality when it comes to this question yeah a hundred percent like he says are there any other factors besides time and ease speed and ease it's like not really and speed and ease are awesome factors that yes little kids man we've got so much to do all the time it's just hard i literally last night packed up some consignment orders and for a second i'm like should i throw these on my story and it's like no like i just don't wanna deal with it certain situations like there if there were there are certain cards that if i were going to move them i do reach out to some people like like bear stuff i have a bear's network i'll be like are you interested in this or not like i do give people a heads up like some of these cards i gave people a a chance and it's just so much easier to send something to auction or like that george what i wanna say about that situation though if you have a card that you know your bears friends want it's isn't it easier just to play switzerland and throw it up for auction and be like good luck pals that's where that's where i've ended up because like i feel like people are interested but then then it just goes into negotiating which i just don't want to do especially on some of these cards that don't have recent comps or just nope it it's just hard and i'm like let's you know what i'll make this easier for everyone if if i think this is worth six hundred dollars and you think it's worth four hundred dollars like maybe i just put it at auction and you might get it for three hundred if you bid four hundred like yeah or maybe i'm more right with the mark who knows like it's just it's hard but the the no recent comps thing is huge because you are doing yours you're doing someone a favor by saying this card hasn't sold for four years i'm presenting it to you like would you like to make an offer on it before i go to auction and then that that's that is i think this is a a a a very fine thing to do if you have a card that you're not like you're thinking about selling or you see someone has cards that this might be a perfect fit i think it is completely acceptable to say i saw you have these cards i wasn't planning on selling this but if you would like to make an offer on this card then i would be listening because of i know you this and that like i think that's completely acceptable and if you don't like the offer you don't have to sell the card but ultimately if it's a no recent comp card you don't have to deal with the bullshit of people trying to say oh well it's worth this much it's like how do you know it's like hasn't sold so that's why i love to send the cards to auction because the market's gonna tell you what they're worth yeah and they're like i've done story sales and it's just i don't know there is something dejecting when you throw up a story sale and no one buys anything and then you're like okay now i have to send this to auction and now they have zero momentum or like you ruin the you ruin it man you by doing that no one wants to see the card multiple times on a story sale and then at auction it's not as cool that way you gotta unveil at the auction block when it pops up available for auction there's urgency there's oh god like now i have to engage in this like tick tick tick tick tick tick yep but like things like that jordan matthews gold vinyl that i pulled like because for a second i was like this is just because i already was building a consignment pile i'm like i'm just gonna throw this in there and i was like wait like it it literally it was like he simon philly special cards had like liked a recent picture like i don't know i just like he was at top of mind i was like let me look at his profile like i feel like he wants this type of stuff and i it took me one scroll to find he had the twenty fifteen prism gold based jordan matthews and so i'm like i think he might want this card it would be cool to and i i said hey i just pulled this do you want it he's like yes how much i told him the price he's like yep and it was just the easiest greatest transaction it could be so there are definitely times for it but then when it's like this pile of thirteen cards that i wanna sell i'm just i'm not doing a story sale they're they're hitting auction and that's that i i final note on this for me is i have absolutely nothing but love for consignment businesses it is we all have needs in this hobby my number one need is having someone sell my cards on my behalf because i don't wanna do it dude i remember getting back into cards before i knew anything about consignment and i remember how big of a pain in the ass it was to list cards myself i was like god this sucks this is gonna take me like two hours so consignment is one of my favorite elements of this hobby shout out all you consignment companies who help people sell cards you have some you do something that a lot of people like me really appreciate so shout out consignment companies yeah and like the the presentation of a card like when it shows up at auction it just has a different feel versus when it's like a blurry story sale picture with like a scuffed plastic case you know like it just presents differently when in in the auction format like sometimes i see cards on a story sale i'm like i know that card's sick but it just looks it doesn't look great in this picture is that what it's gonna look like in hand like i like i don't want i don't want this card what's what's your thoughts on this the ebay authentication individuals wanting to opt out of it because they want their cards instantly i i i i like the i don't know if this has ever happened to you but i like the per buyer protection side way too much i'd rather sacrifice the time of the card mhmm to get protected as a buyer i've gotten on two or three different occasions where i've got the message via email it's like this card was not listed correctly like in terms of condition like with the picture of like a dent on the back and most of the times they're like rare and scarce cards and i'm like you know i i'll say thanks you know i'm i still want the card type of the thing but i don't know like i've i value that a lot i value like the infrastructure behind that and i also understand like people just wanna buy cards and get them instantly but the protection to me is feel it's it's significant to me and i feel like it doesn't get enough credit when there's a lot of negativity going to a program like that i think it's good for raw cards i if a card's already graded i'm fine with it like i trust that it's what it is and it'll like i guess in that case the it protects if like the case is messed up but for the most part it's like the grading company has like i trust that like so if i'm buying a big card that's graded i'm fine with it not going to authenticity but if it's a raw card yes i like that because they do flag condition stuff that might not be in a listing or other things so yeah alright great questions everybody thank you for those i feel like yeah question asked for the year is still still up in the air we got we got some good ones this week we'll see what happens next week it's a tight race nfl check-in don't really have much training camp has started hard knocks has started i didn't watch hard knocks yet but we're getting there we are i'm just yeah the only thing i'm just happy about is the my my quarterback is he's not missed a practice and he's looking good the reports are it looks like he never was hurt so that's that's where it starts it's like everything else hopefully just falls into place but there's been too many starts to the season with things being questionable at quarterback for my team so the fact that like daniel jones is out there doing all the things and making the throws and looking good and all the players are talking about how big of a boss he is like that's that's enough for me i'm like okay like let me just close my eyes open them back up and then the season starts because i'm just ready to go there we go i can't wait it's we're close is it next week as a preseason game already or is it hall of fame game is that this week i think so yeah this thursday i think hall of fame game or is that right oh my god yeah hall of fame game tomorrow yeah we got football tomorrow yeah football tomorrow yeah that's great yeah football will will have already been by the time this goes out oh that's what's the what's the match again carolina we've got the cardinals and the panthers yeah because you got larry fitzgerald being represented or going in and yeah that's will carson beck action we'll see how he fares wow first action that's that'll be what i'm watching i'm watching i need something i need a hit of that sweet sweet football alright sales sales let's get into some sales first sale nineteen by the way definite impact on online sales with the national there were certainly fewer cards i could just tell i go doing my routine but we've got the ninety nine metal universe peyton manning precious metal gems and a psa seven sold via ebay for fourteen thousand dollars best offer to me the story about this card is it is the highest sold psa seven ever there was another one that sold in july july twelfth a psa seven sold for twelve thousand one hundred and then later on in the month they're selling for fourteen k so cards are going up how you doing yeah this is an awesome card i i this set has really grown on me i on the pmg front just and these shine like crazy in hand i have a only one i have is eric kramer and it's that almost went to consignment because i was like it just doesn't fit in it stands out from my collection because everything else is so much more modern and shiny but i just couldn't let it go i was like i like having at least some type of pmg in the collection and but this manning what a pose like what a photo it's like that is perfect peyton manning right there how would you stack rank ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine like what what's your rankings are like greens and reds their own thing you gotta kinda like key yeah you gotta kinda they're all this it's it's almost thinking about like the question's almost about like the design of the car right i think ninety eight one ninety i kinda ninety nine two maybe ninety seven three i don't love ninety sevens like i don't love the reds the greens i even the design sometimes i'm like too much of the player is covered by robot arms or squid tentacles i'm like i don't know like show me more of the player here like or like their face is like cut in half like the clean photography that i'm looking at right now on this ninety nine yeah beginning is is worth something so yeah i'll just go there ninety eight ninety nine ninety seven yep i think i'm i i i don't argue with that that's i think that's my position as well alright what else alright we've got two thousand sixteen brett favre black finite psa nine selling for five k post playing day cards on the theme of cards going up this card sold for twelve hundred dollars and twenty four in april of this year it sold for thirty one hundred dollars and then it sells again in august for five k so we're just going up just everything is just going up forever this is what happens whoever bought this is gonna sell it for ten in two months who's buying cards of this pervert that's all i wanna know i was waiting for it i was teeing you up pal that is the that is the one player i'm missing on the two thousand two finest refractor jersey patch set is the favre and there's one sitting on ebay for fifty dollars obo that i anyone else i would bin but like it my pride won't let me and i sent a forty dollar offer that just expired which i'm like alright do i have to bend this and now that i'm saying this on the football card pod it's probably gonna get bend but whatever i'll get that card eventually but i just don't wanna spend fifty dollars on this pervert you'll get it eventually we've got the two thousand twenty certified mirror black etched justin jefferson jersey auto shield sticker auto not ideal but justin jefferson probably gonna have a monster year after having a not so great year or to his standards last year this card sold for forty five hundred dollars it sold in january of this year for thirty five hundred so everything is going up that's yeah that's not my favorite looking card but forty five hundred that's pretty expensive for it because that's not game use there's no way that's game use no way but hey how you doing kyler murray maybe maybe the the renaissance is here for kyler and janice i think so we've got a twenty five christian mccaffrey black auto super factor one of one this card i would imagine chrome black just came out yeah this card sold for two thousand six hundred and fifty dollars so well c mac auto one of one yeah man it's just i know this is a one of one but it this is just it's these prices are nuts man yeah for like a brand new product that i've never heard of that i didn't know existed until yesterday and to for that to sell for that much money i mean cool looking card and cool on card sig but i like the i like how he inscribes the number there yeah that were people clamoring for topps chrome black was like panini was prism black so well received that topps was like you know what we need we need topps chrome black any variation by any variation necessary and we close it out with the ninety seven flare showcase legacy collection shannon sharpe row two masterpiece one of one leave your jokes aside two thousand four hundred and ninety nine dollars the history on this card you've got a june fourteenth you've got let's see you've got two sales of two thousand that happened this year and then this card sells for twenty five these card like these cards like it's like it can't no one wants to keep a shannon sharpe masterpiece for too long it's crazy fanatics weekly golden and then fanatics buy now that card's sick that's my that's good like i'd rather have that and twenty five hundred dollars than the far finite or i'd rather have that and two thousand dollars than that justin jefferson card like this is shannon sharp's sick i love shannon sharp he was very very good i just removed you from the stage wrong button those are the sales brought to you by card ladder shout out card ladder alright collecting updates card call out we'll get out of here collecting updates what are the current collecting projects that you're focusing your resources on any anything from the national you know i was i was i was perusing there was no football cards purchased so again i sit here with no pickups what about you i got the chris carter from black hat cards shout out to black hat cards fan i got the color fight i graded i hit a nine i was very nice very happy about that i bought this not i bought it at the national it was a bin on ebay basketball card pod for a second not a card so this is just basketball podcast autographed slam cover of the knuckleheads lamar odom elton brand darius miles iconic cover with their jerseys on like all wearing the mismatching jerseys signed by all three already psa authenticated it i was talking we were talking about magazines i was talking to some like magazine collectors and we were just talking about iconic covers and like i knew that was sitting on ebay and i mentioned that cover and we're all like god slam had so many iconic covers and i was like i'm i'm buying it like if this were in a showcase right now i would buy it let's go ahead and bin it so national pickup not at the national that's awesome alright card call out last week we asked for national pickups which forgive me i feel like i didn't repost as many as we got sent we're running around it was hard to keep up with anything it was hard to keep up what should we do for fifty nine so linebacker summer is ending so we could do a linebacker call out for one final linebacker hurrah should we do that tribute to the linebacker yep tribute to the linebacker any linebacker card any player post it tag the football card pod on instagram we will repost we will reshare thank you all for listening to the football card podcast we'll see you next week