Hello, and welcome to the football card podcast. This is it. It's Friday, and you are listening to the fastest growing podcast in the entire world that's centered on football, cards, and most importantly, football cards. I'm your host, John, aka, Pat Nicholson. And with me as always is Brett, mister Stacking Slabs himself.

Brett, how are you doing? Feeling a little stir crazy here. We were chatting ahead of this. Daycare closed, trying to get in the content, trying to manage the emotions of three children. Finally, daycare has opened up, so we're feeling pretty good at this point.

The house is a little calm. We still got a baby here at Stacking Sides HQ. But tell you what, you got a four year old and a two year old and a, let's see, a one month old baby. The the the baby's the least of the problems when you're when you're locked in and you can't really go outside and do anything. So this is, I'm I'm excited.

I'm excited to talk about football cards. There's a lot. We've got a Super Bowl on the other side of this. I also I just wanna say, like, I've been thinking about this. This is the longest how I'm doing segment ever.

But, dude, I've been thinking a lot about Sam Darnold, and I know we're gonna talk about Sam Darnold a lot. But Sam Darnold, dude, the more I think about him, the more I think about, like, the fact that, like, you know, when you're in high school and there's, that that guy or girl who is, like, maybe gets bully bullied a little bit and is not quite, like looks a lot younger maybe than everybody else or no one pays attention to them. And then that, like, one summer happens and, like, they come back from school. And then all of a sudden, they're just, like, turning heads. Like, who is this person?

It's like, they've completely transformed. And then somebody decides, you know what? Like, I'm gonna go for it. Like and they ask this person on a date, and then they go on that date. I I I feel like that's what, like, Sam Darnold is right now.

He was, like, rejected for so long. And the the first person who got to ask Sam Darnold on a date was the Minnesota Vikings. And he went fourteen and three and threw 35 touchdowns for the Minnesota Vikings last year, and they didn't want him. And now he's he went fourteen and three again, and now he's going to the Super Bowl. So I think there's a lot of lessons here just with the way the league works and stuff, but I always like an underdog story.

Sam Darnold feels like the ultimate underdog story. So I usually don't give credit too much to people who went to USC, but I'm going to hear and just say, congratulations, Sam Darnold, and congratulations all of the Sam Darnold investors who have held strong over the years. Yeah. Sam Darnold is going to the Super Bowl. Sam Darnold is leading his team to the Super Bowl.

Yeah. That's awesome. That it's still just amazing that, yeah, the Vikings, they landed the date. They were going steady with Sam, and then they dumped Sam for a freshman, nine, JJ, just some little hotshot punk. And, yeah.

I mean, serves him right. And it's another thing with the whole Vikings thing. It's not like this was some he was 27 years old when he was on the Vikings. Like, he's still so young in this, you know, NFL journey. And for them to just kick them to the curb because they wanted something better than fourteen and three and thirty five touchdowns is just we'll we'll be baffling.

If he wins the Super Bowl, it's just gonna continue to be such a narrative, that gets pounded. Did did you see this, by the way? I'm gonna pull it up on the screen. Did you see shout out jets underscore cards on Instagram decided to Awesome. Post, a Sam Darnold stash that they he did not get rid of.

You you've got one, two, 34, 5 six n t r p a's. You've got, gold vinyl from Prism, auto, non auto. You got the Prism Black Finite rookie. You got gold Prism. You got two actually gold vinyl autos, and you've just got shields, gold kaboo.

I mean, you got this this this fan is just like, you know what? My team got rid of him, but I still believe in Sam Darnold. So this has gotta be the best Sam Darnold collection out there. Right? Instantly following and liking that post.

I love that caption. Not affected by failure, the chosen one. There's nothing better than believing in your guy, and it just or even if it doesn't pan out, just the the act of believing in it, is part of the fun. So, yes, shout out this collector, jets underscore cards. What a spread.

Those are oh, it keeps going. There's multiple slides. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I should have clicked.

Yeah. Look at this thing. Vikings finite, cracked ice autos galore. Oh, this is this is awesome. This is collecting done right.

Yep. I love it. Because usually, like, when your guy doesn't live up to potential on your squad, like, dude, I would've if this were me, I would've cashed out and got a percentage of whatever I paid on this and gone I would've moved on to the next one. But we had a believer this whole time, and I think that's just incredible. That's awesome.

Back to the daycare kids situation. Same thing. Daycare over here was closed Monday and Tuesday. We're recording this on Wednesday. I was thinking because you have three, like you said.

I only have one. And I feel like people always say, you know, going from one to two is, like, you know, you're going from zone to man. Right? And then but two to three, you're back to zone at a disadvantage. Like, what what is a a cover, you know, too high safety look look like when you're playing to is it just like, alright.

I'm by that door. You're by that door. We're gonna give up some chunk plays here and there. We're gonna bend and and but won't break in between the twenties. Like, what's the what's the defensive scheme looking like stacking slabs HQ?

We're we're we're currently evaluating strategies, and this is the hard part because they're scoring touchdowns on us every play. There are times and this has never happened up until now where I'll just say, where's Ruby? Ruby's our two year old. Ruby's in the two year old mode. I know you have a two year old where, like, she'll just go do her thing and, is the the one we probably can't leave alone out of all of them.

And so, yeah, we're not we're not winning right now, so we've gotta figure out a strategy. I have heard that, like, after three, it's like you can add, like, four more, and it's kinda all the same. But I thought moving from one to two was a very big jump. Two to three is like, dude, I feel like I'm I feel like a losing team going into a new game every day, and I know I'm going to lose. I just gotta figure out how to marginally improve.

That's that's how I feel. Wow. I love that. I love thinking of you need Robert Sala to come in, defensive coordinator, team up some some something. Dude, I love it how he was talk about I mean, is he the Sam Darnold of coaches?

Maybe. I've always liked him, and it's like, to Sam Darnold's point, you can't the jets jets of yours can't count for any player. Like, you just gotta fair. You just gotta throw that out. Right?

Yeah. No. I've him in Tennessee with Brian Dable too. Just New York boys going to Tennessee to revive the titans. I'm here for it.

Yeah. We'll see how we'll see how it goes. I I that was a when I saw the titans hire Dayball, was like, yeah. That's probably a pretty good hire. And so I was like, that's they did a pretty nice job.

So I don't give the titans much credit, usually, but I think they've had a pretty decent start so far. They did let Mike Vrabel go, so they're gonna try and do whatever it takes to make people forget that. That's very good point. I thought Dave will might get the head coach job in Buffalo. I thought I would've gone that instead of they got did they get Joe Brady?

Did that end up Yeah. They've they've hired Joe Brady. Okay. Yeah. Well, that another the I thought Sean McDermott was fine.

Like, I don't know. Just firing it like, in this coaching carousel to just fire him so late into the whole thing, seemed a little brash. And as we record this, you know, the Browns are still looking at analytics, and they're not they haven't hired anybody yet. It's Alright. Let's get into this episode.

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Oh, custom hoodies with your collection on the back. Dude, how sick would that be if you're, like, in the grocery store and you're walking and someone just had, like, the collection grid from card ladder on the back of their hoodie? Dude, I'd be like people be like, are you are you checking that guy out? I'd be like, no, dude. I'm just looking at his cards.

I'm looking at the collection. I need some of these. If you found a PC card because it was on someone's card ladder hoodie that they were just walking around, that'd be the that's the ultimate success story. Yes. Shout out card ladder.

Shout out card letter. Okay. Number 32. This might be I think what was it? There was another running back number early twenties that we said.

8? Maybe it was 28. That might be the GOAT running back number, 21. Perry Sanders was 20. I don't know.

32, now that I'm seeing it, 32 might be the GOAT running back number. We've got Hall of Famers, Marcus Allen, Jim Brown, Franco Harris, Edron James, and OJ Simpson. Oh, wow. Dude, yeah, there's no beat that is that is un that is an unbelievable collection of backs that have worn 32. Hall of fame all over it, man.

And if you had to guess, though, who the highest AV of all these running backs, of all the 30 twos to ever play is, any guesses? I'm going I mean, it I feel like it's not the the obvious seems like Jim Brown. Mhmm. But the length of his career Yeah. You know, I I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Marcus Allen.

He played forever. Yes. It's Marcus Allen. Yeah. Which I I was shocked by.

I thought, I don't I guess I don't know who I thought it was. I just did not think it would be him. Because Marcus Allen, great running back, legendary moments in the playoffs, won a Super Bowl. But, yeah, kind of more of the longevity stats than having the highest highs. 1985, easily his best year.

He ran for 1,759 yards, 11 touchdowns, another 500 yards receiving, so 2,300, 14 total yards, first team all pro, MVP. They, yeah. So 2300 yards scrimmage was his peak. After that, it's, like, 1,200, 1,100, 1,100, 400, 800, 400, 500, thousand, thousand, 11, 11. So longevity stats were there.

He wasn't flying high in that 2,000 scrimmage yard, realm very long, but incredible player. Jim Brown, though. Jim Brown's pro football reference page. One of the best of all time. Just tons of first team all pros, three MVPs, so much bold, just a beautiful pro football reference page.

But what 30 twos stood out to you, Brett? I have to go with my man, Edron James. So many memories, so many stories. I he was such a it was it was a lot shorter, his run-in Indy, than probably many remember. It seems like growing up, he played here forever.

Mhmm. I just dude, I think about the stretch play with him and Manning. With Wayne and Harrison and Edge and Peyton, that stretch play where it's like, the defenses did they had to they had to try to stop Edge, but then on the other side of it, you've got and then also Dallas Clark. You've just got I mean, someone's getting open there. And it was just such a unstoppable play, and Edge was the reason that they, were able to make that happen.

I'll also say, like, I was kinda you know, it was '99 when he was a rookie, so I was a lot younger, obviously. And the hype in was all around Ricky Williams. And I was just stunned that if the the colts went colts drafted a running back that wasn't Ricky Williams that early, obviously, it ended up being a great selection and great pick. But I remember that being, like, a big, like, oh my god. Like, really?

This is what we're doing. And then instantly, like, Edron was, like, immediate impact type player. My favorite Edron James moment for me as a fan was definitely my freshman year of college. I went to Soldier Field. I think Craig Krentzel was starting at quarterback for your players.

And it was one of those instances where it's like, okay. The the Colts should beat the brakes off of this bears team, and they did. And, dude, Edgerrin had 204 yards. He was literally unstoppable. Like, every time they just hand the ball off to him every play, and he was, like, doing spin moves.

It was it was so fun. And I just remember, like, bears fans throwing peanuts at me and shit because every time he, like, ran every run he had was, like, 25 yards that game. It was just so fun to watch. So he's been a guy that's kinda stuck around the organization. Obviously, he's a big he had he was, like, best friends with Jim Ursea before he passed.

Ursea bought him a car, Ursea gave him a Super Bowl ring even though he wasn't on the team. Like, so that so he's around. He's in video packages here, and so it feels like he's one of those guys who's really part of, like, the Colts ring of honor. So shout out, Edger and James. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. That bears game. I remember that. This 41 to 10 was the final from soldier. Edgerrin, 23 carries for 204 yards.

And the long his long was only 40, though, which to me is even more impressive where, like, it's not like he got, like, an 80 yard touchdown run and that inflated the rest of the stats. Like, you're saying every single carry, he's averaging almost 10 yards a carry for over 23 carries. That's insane. And there's, like, one run from that that's, like, still in highlight reels. Yes.

That Yeah. Unreal. I think too when you're saying it seems like he was in Indy forever, but it does. Like, growing up, Edgar and Peyton, Marvin, I feel like, you know, they were always there. Probably because, like you said, he started so strong, like, immediately was one of the best running backs in the league right away.

So there wasn't, like, you know, a season to warm up and, like, is he gonna jump in step into this or whatever? He led the league in rushing as a rookie. He led the league in rushing in his second year. Unreal numbers for Edgerrin in his career. So shout out him.

I I had to think of Cedric Benson as a 32 for the bears. So not his fond memories. Mainly him fumbling in the Super Bowl is what comes to mind. Bob Sanders hit. Bob Sanders hit.

Yeah. Yeah. A fumble nonetheless. But yeah. But I remember when the there's nothing better than when your team takes, you know, an offensive skill guy, top five.

It's very exciting. But Mhmm. Unfortunately, for the bears, it hasn't worked out all too much. I think of, Cedric Benson and Kevin White as the top examples of failure. What happened with Kevin White?

Was he just too skinny, or what was it with him? He was yeah. He just kept getting hurt. I don't know if it was a because he was skinny. I can't even remember.

That was such a rough era of the bears too. That was end of Cutler, John Fox teams, unwatchable bears football for a couple years there. I feel like although Kevin White didn't have a successful career, I I couldn't tell you what year he's drafted, but I feel like I've just seen some sick Kevin White cards. I feel like he's got some good cards. Yeah.

2016. Okay. I have his I have a gold prism of his. I don't know if it's his. I can't remember if I have 2016, or not.

But oh, no. He was in the I have his 2016 prism. He was in the 2015 draft. Okay. Yeah.

I I mean, I would I'm I'm a buyer if someone out there has a Kevin White card. I still need for the telling the story of those Chicago bears history. He is he is a piece. 2015 it's funny. I was going through this with a couple people this week.

20 you know, 2014, you've got the three variations to the one true base rookie and prism. There's only two in 2015. And, dude, the subtlety like, now you've got, like, the on the field shot and then just, the profile of the player. Like, twenty fifteen, like, it's like, no it's, like, almost the same image. One with ball in hand, no ball.

It's like, go through if you want a fun exercise, go through twenty fifteen Prism rookie variations, which I believe Cardboard Connection has a page too, and just look at it. It's it's incredible. And this all spawned because someone sent me a Philip Dorset gold prism that's available. And I do need the twenty fifteen gold prism of Dorset because I have the gold vinyl. But the the the the one that's listed live right now is the variation.

But you would never know it's the variation. So I appreciate people sending it to me, but I have a line in the sand, no variations. But I don't know. That's what I love about Prism, I guess. It's just so weird sometimes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the subtlest of body turned, like, one eight. Like, even that, I remember talking about the luck rookie prism. Like, there's that variation that's they're so similar.

It's like, what what It's $7,500 on eBay right now if you want a variation gold. Hey. Might need that. One other 32, I wanted to just peek at Super Bowl thirty two to see if anything a note happened, and that was the broncos defeating the packers 31 to 24. But what caught my attention more is because remember we're talking about halftime shows didn't really come into their own, and I'm realizing at that point in time, it was all about the national anthem.

That's where they were getting the heavy hitters. We had Super Bowl thirty two, Jewel singing the national anthem. Super Bowl thirty two year was this? '90 wait. '98.

So January. So the '97 season. Juul was hotter than chicken grease in '98. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Like and but the halftime show, boys to men, Smokey Robinson, the temptations, I need to go back and watch that because that's I love that's yes. I love R and B. So need to revisit, but Jewel with the anthem, and then the next year, Cher with the national anthem. Like, come on, Cher. Was in '99?

That's probably Believe. The resurgence. Yeah. Believe. Believe.

We're we're using, auto auto tune on the vocals for the first time. Yeah. Turn back time. Bangers. But, yeah.

Shout out Super Bowl thirty two, national anthem singer, Jewel. Oh, yeah. And then I'm clicking through. We're up to Super Bowl thirty five, national anthem, Backstreet Boys. Wow.

Like, they were On a halftime show? Halftime show, though, that year was the Aerosmith, NSYNC, Britney Spears, Nelly, and Mary j Blige. I don't remember that. What kind of budget were they working with in that Super Bowl? NFL.

That back in the pre streaming days, just Nielsen ratings cranking out 100,000,000 views, everyone watching the MASH finale. You know? The golden era. I just caught an episode of MASH. Great show.

Is it? Never mind. Dude, I love it. Yeah. Alright.

That's it for 30 twos. Three and out? Should we get into it? Yeah. We're since I've been playing nothing but defense on the home front, we're gonna continue playing defense.

Yep. Decided to get nerdy and do some research. I I basically, it was out of curiosity. I dropped the episode in the Patreon group, but I'll we'll share a nugget here for the football card podcast. So through 2012 to 2025, there were 35 players that appeared in the base checklist for Prism in ten distinct years.

The I'm classifying their this as an iron man. There is only two ironmen appearing in every year of Prism from '12 to '25. When I first thought of there's gotta be an iron man in this before I looked in the data, First person that came to mind was Aaron Rodgers. Found out upon my research, Aaron Rodgers is not a part of 2025 Prism. So he is he does not his perfect run gets shattered probably because of the, you know there was a lot of they waited down to the wire to bring in Aaron Rodgers.

So I'm sure Panini was like, they couldn't make the move fast enough or whatever. But the two players that have will have Prism cards from 2012 to '25 every year are Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford, which I think that's pretty cool. I guess my question to you, what's your reaction? And does checklist longevity in a product like Prism mean anything for you as a collector? I mean, it's always fun when there's the runs, right, where you can string them together over years.

The Stafford and Rust being the Ironman is interesting. But that got me digging into the checklist because of one other reason. So my saved searches for this 2025 prism, you know, are starting to get a little active, and I see, Chris Carter, the receiver, his true gold prism pop up on the dolphins. Damn. I'm like, why is Chris Carter on the dolphins?

And I look it up, and sure enough, like, Minnesota, his well, Philadelphia and then Minnesota for the majority of his career. And then 2002, he was on the dolphins for five games, one game started, eight total catches. Like, why is he on the dolphins? That was blowing my mind that Chris Carr is on the dolphins checklist. So then I'm like like, for for their veteran slot, like, Ricky Williams, no Zach Thomas, no Dan Marino.

They go with Chris Carter for a veteran's or legendary player on the Dolphins. So I start peeking around because I'm like, are there other teams, other players that, you know, on the wrong team? Chad Johnson is on the Patriots checklist. Ed Reed is on the Texans checklist, and this is for 2025 Prism. Keyshawn Johnson on the Panthers, Frank Gore on the Bills, Ricky Williams on the ravens, and Devin Hester on the falcons.

What is that? What are we did they just chat GPT, like, hall of famers for teams, and it just spit out because of, like, their last season? Like, Ed Reed on the Texans was one year. Same with Chad Johnson on the page. You know?

Like, I just cannot understand what Prism is doing putting these players on these feet. Frank, but this doesn't look real. Did on the bills? They decided to get really weird. I actually apologies, especially if you're a listener of the football card podcast.

Dude, I saw, like, somebody on Instagram started this thread of about what you're talking about, like, right when the checklist dropped. And I yeah. I can't I it's not like they're, you know, they're trying to get rid of some patches and put them in cards, and it doesn't matter, you know, what team it's they they made the decision to get weird in this final year. So I don't know if I like it. I kinda maybe like it a little bit.

I like just how weird it is. If I sit and think about it long enough, I can turn, and I could love it. But, like because then that'd be fun to get all those guys in the, wrong jerseys. But I just I don't know if it's because if you Google Ed Reed, his Texans picture comes up, and, you know, like, that maybe that's as far as they got. I wonder if I Google Who's the most egregious?

Chris Carter on the dolphins is pretty bad. Like, hey. If you Google Keyshawn Johnson, the second picture, him in a panthers jersey. I feel like they were just, know, racing googling. Think yeah.

I I don't know how much checking went into this. Chad Johnson on the Patriots. Ed Reed on the Texans because Yeah. That happened in what year is it? Like, he has some Topps Chrome years where he's on the Texans.

I'm like, that like, I just don't want those cards that he's on the Texans. And then for it to come all the way around to 2025, you know, twelve years after he played five games for the Texans for that to be the the team they associate him with. For their last year at Prism, like, that would be sick if there was a 2025 Ed Reed, Ravens, Black Friday night, but no. Dude, here's one for you on the same wavelength. If you Google search Reggie Wayne and you go down to ESPN's result of Reggie Wayne, it says Reggie Wayne, New England Patriots wide wide wide.

Yeah. I swear. They there was some just scraping going on here with the data, and it was just pulling the last team that these legendary players played for. Ricky Williams on the Ravens too. It's like yeah.

Let's put, Ricky Williams, Ravens, Chris Carter, Dolphins. That's the that's what we should yeah. It's like we have a we have a open Raven slot, and we have an open Dolphin slot, and we have Ricky Williams and Ed Reed on the board. Where should we put them? Put Ed Reed, Texans, and, Ricky Williams, Ravens, and Chris Carter on the Dolphins.

Did I want to say, like, the scenario is the overseer of the product, like, just left for fanatics, and, like, the rest of the crew is like, you know what? Fuck it. And they're just like, get a bunch of snacks, and maybe there's some extracurricular activities going on in the room. And they just, you know, are in a good mood, and they just decide, you know what? Let's have a little fun with this.

Yeah. That's how it happened. Some men just wanna watch the world burn. You know? But, yeah, if I by the time this airs, I'll probably have convinced myself that it's awesome and that it's, they're actually geniuses for what they're doing.

Who would it would there is there like, if there I know you we're not really into vet stuff, but is there any example of that where, like, if the black finite popped up for, like, $300 and it was a weird one that based on the bears history, you would think about buying it? I think so. I would more than the bears, I'd I'd buy any Priest Holmes black one zero one. Okay. He's in 2017 select, so he does have a black one zero one.

I've never seen it. But if he was in 2025 prism on the chiefs, like, I would a 100%. Just because I'm not tapped out, but I haven't got a new priest homes card, a bigger priest homes card forever. They just I have the ones I want, and the other ones are locked away or are one of one super factors, you know, from that early era. So getting a that that would be a top card.

But, of course, no. He's not in this checklist. What final one for me. How do we classify who is the king of Prism? Obviously, like, Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford, both both both Super Bowl winners.

You know, I don't really you could get into stats, and it makes probably an easier case for Stafford. But how is there a like, is there any way to make a decision on who the number one iron man is and who is the number two? Is it because maybe Russ has a rookie in 2012? Is he the number one? Oh, that is nice that he has, like, the a rookie card.

It's his whole career, dude. Yeah. His whole career is Prism. Rust, king of Prism? Something about Stafford less teams.

Like, there's just you got the lions and rams, something nice about that. But I can't I don't wanna knock journeymen because that is a pivotal piece of the NFL. I think Russ is king of Prism. Oh, how about that? That was a that was a good first down.

The the the second down is I just it's kind of a follow-up in a way, but my question is, is it just me, or does this Prism release already feel different? And the context I have is last year when first out of off the line dropped, dude, everything was everywhere instantly. All the flip BigFlip Inc all had all the bangers, and this was, like, within a week of the product drop. Dude, I feel like the there it has been a slow burn. I'm I'm sure breakers are breaking it.

I'm sure they are. That's not really my scene, but I just nothing from the periphery has really entered my space. It just it feels different. I was expecting a little bit more menom momentum knowing, you know, prison football releases, but I don't know. I'm not.

It just feels different. How are you seeing this so far? It's granted, it's been about a week, but it just feels weird. Yeah. I need to look maybe at release dates last year.

I feel like first off the line was out for just a few days before Hobby came out last year. It felt like it all happened at once. Whereas right now, it's still just, like, first off the line cards that are seem to be hitting the market. A lot of shimmers. A lot of shimmer action out there.

Oh, shimmer me timmers. And the only note I wrote wrote down on when I saw this topic was gold ice can go to hell. Like, what are we doing? What are we naming it gold ice? You can't have gold in there messing up all my saved searches.

Dude, did I dream this? Or is there, like I feel like maybe this is draft picks. I feel like I saw an orange finite somewhere. No. Probably.

Oh. One note, I yeah. I just saw I searched orange finite, twenty twenty five Prism draft picks, Josh Allen, orange finite There you out of 39. Yeah. There's orange finite.

You can't be tossing around the word finite like that either. Mm-mm. But Stafford and Russ, just one interesting tidbit I have to bring up. Who do you think went to more Pro Bowls? I feel like Russell Wilson.

Yeah. Just because, he's like dude, he was the ultimate and I know we're gonna get into this a little bit on Pro Bowls and how big of a joke it is, but I feel like he was the all time ultimate alternate guy. So the guy who was going to the Super Bowl didn't play, it was always Russ. I feel like that happened for, like, six years in a row. That Mitchell Trubisky, bears pro bowler, able to have that distinction because of similar circumstance.

But I didn't realize, Russ, 10 Pro Bowls, Matthew Stafford, three, including Wow. Including this year. Like, he only made one Pro Bowl in Detroit, and that includes his that was 2014. But in 2011, Matthew Stafford, the Detroit Lions went ten and six. Stafford threw for 5,000 yards, 41 touchdowns, 16 interceptions.

He was comeback player of the year, but did not get the Pro Bowl nod, which it's like Who was who are the NFC quarterbacks then? That's ridiculous. Yeah. Like and did no one drop out? Like, how did 5,100 yards?

Yeah. Over or 5,000. 5,000. I'm off the page now, but it was just and 41 touchdowns. Jeez.

So, I mean, Pro Bowlers, you got Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees. So NFC, though, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton as a rookie. Mhmm. Eli Manning, who threw for 4,900 yards. Dude, there there was that era where, dude, everyone like, the pass couldn't be stopped.

This the games were so high scoring. Yeah. The yeah. Everyone's throwing. Drew Brees threw for 5,400 yards, 46 touchdowns.

Rogers, 4,600 yards, 45 touchdowns, nine interceptions. That's Dude, were there just no pass rushers in that era? I don't know what was going on. Cam Newton, though, and Eli. Like, Stafford had better, except Cam Newton's rookie year was pretty electric because It was good.

This doesn't show his he ran for 14 touchdowns. I don't know. Andy Dalton as a rookie for the AFC. That's just Pro Bowl's crazy. Yeah.

Which should we segue into Yeah. We're already there. Third down. Belichick, Bill Belichick, making the hall of fame as a first ballot, on his first ballot, and Shadore Sanders being named to the Pro Bowl. Those two events just kinda had me thinking, like or do they make us maybe rethink accolades and the weight we put into them for collecting?

Like, sometimes you know? And maybe it's just in the now and it'll wash away. But in, like, ten years, if people are like, Shadore Sanders made four Pro Bowls in his career, it's like, did he? Did he make three? Like, this year can't count, but it does count.

He's going. So I don't know. Any thoughts on Belichick and Shador? On Belichick, I'll just the the a Warren Sharp tweet that just made me laugh was Bill Polian waited twenty years and on 01/2726 took his revenge on Bill Bolichev for cheating Spygate 02/2007. That's six years longer than Edmund Dantes was imprisoned in the Chateau D'Ave before becoming Count of Monte Cristo and ex extracting his own revenge.

Truly epic stuff. And the reports are that you know? And I don't know what to believe. I don't know what to believe on the Internet ever, but the way I envision this is, like, some political, things going on where it's like, oh, yeah. Belichick, he's surefire and and and pulling being, wait a minute here.

Like, if if the hall of fame is one of the pillars is sanctifying the integrity of the game, I have a little bit of an issue and then brings up all the data and information about Spygate and then convinces, the majority not to put him in. And it's almost like Paulian was like, son of a bitch. Like, don't die. Like, I can't die. I need to wait for this moment.

And so he got that moment. And I I I I've seen all the huss and busts, especially from Patriots fans or whatever, but it's this is obviously, I'm a Colts fan. He was my GM. If this is in fact what happened, I think it's a wonderful thing. So sorry, Bill.

Sit out. You'll get it in eventually. But, yeah, dude, they just that that little thing all popping out made me die laughing reading all the tweets. Oh, this is great. I'm looking I just searched Bill Pulley on Twitter.

There's great great content going around. Yeah. I mean Patriot fans, you're in the Super Bowl again. Come on. Exactly.

You can't cry about this. But, wow, that would never would have thought, I guess. Like, I know Spygate and Deflategate and all those things, but to me, it was still like, if you had asked me, will Bill Belichick be a first ballot hall of famer? I'd say yes. I'd also tell you I didn't think coaches could go in after a year.

It should be five years. Everyone I didn't know that either. It should be the same. Like, the fact that he's already eligible is kinda crazy. Like, Mike Tomlin's gonna be eligible next year, or if he just gets in the hall of fame instead of coming back?

I don't know. And then, yeah, Shadoor, the Pro Bowl. Was there no one else? Dude, I have I have not. They somebody actually ran through, like, all of the scenarios, which I can't remember.

I don't know if that Trevor Lawrence might be I can't dude, I can't even I don't even. There was an era where I'd looked at the rosters, and I would be it was, like, so exciting. Dude, I've thought the Pro Bowl was such a joke for for a while. And because of the alternate thing and because no one wants to play and because they don't even play a game anymore, like, I choose not to even recognize the Pro Bowl as a as an award. And this is a all pro.

I'll talk all pro all day. Pro Bowl means nothing. And this is like, I'm not hating on Shidder Sanders, but this is absurd. Like, this is like, even if you I love Shudder Sanders. I'd be like, he played, like, a percentage of the season, and his Right.

His stats weren't great. And, like, this is this is obviously a PR stunt. So I am the football card podcast, I am petitioning that we the the Pro Bowl as a measuring stick for accolades is never used again for any sort of credibility because it's a joke. Wow. Yeah.

I mean, what about all star games? NBA, same thing? Maybe dude, that's a tough question. It's when when the fan vote is calculated as part of these awards, it's hard to give it as much weight as First Email Pro, but then I'm just like, well, First Email Pro is just a bunch of old writers. Like, who Yeah.

Are they any better than the fans? But there is I think they weighed it differently. Like, Pro Bowl having the fan element fan vote element does. I don't know. Do do you know anybody who collects based on Pro Bowls?

Like, they if, like, that's when someone enters their collection if they're a Pro Bowler? Possibly. I'm sure there's somebody. And I I think it does help. Like, when I'm looking at pro football reference page, they show at the top, like, how many times pro bowls and, like, seeing a bigger number there is always nice, but you gotta do your own due diligence and see what those numbers, come from.

But yeah. Can they even fix the Pro Bowl? I don't even know anymore what the Pro Bowl is. Like, there was a time when they would go to Hawaii and players would play, and Sean Taylor would jack up punters, and it was fun. But now it just seems like they're playing dodgeball and laser tag.

I don't even know what the Pro Bowl is anymore. Dude, I would just rather them like, let's get a Madden tournament going on. And, like, let's see who the best Madden NFL player is. Like, that's way more interesting. I won't even think about turning it on.

I don't care. It's all gimmicks. Just get me to the Super Bowl. And it's right before the Super Bowl now. It's what?

Like, on Thursday or something? Yeah. Yeah. It's all bad. NFL fixed the Pro Bowl.

They need to bring back that one just, like, longest throw clip that always goes viral of, like, Manning and Brady and those guys just chucking the ball with, well, there's two. One is hitting the targets where the tip of the ball has chalk on it. Oh, that's the best. Drilling the wood targets. Bring that back, and then, yeah, bring back the longest throw.

Hey. And let's let's let's get it back in Hawaii. Come on. Yeah. Seriously.

Let the guys go to Hawaii. Where is the Pro Bowl this year even? It's it's I think it's where the Super Bowl is. Oh. Pro Bowl games.

Santa Clara. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's not even not even showing up for me on Google.

Yeah. Looks like it's Santa Clara. Jerry Rice and Steve Young. Yeah. I don't know.

Go back to Hawaii. Make it fun again. Make the Pro Bowl great again. That's what the real agendas need to be thinking about. How do we make all all star games too in general?

I guess hockey, I feel like, had some momentum when they did that, like, final the tournament of, like, the countries. That was pretty cool. But You need stakes, dude. Baseball has stakes. Like, it's home field advantage in the World Series.

That's important. They got rid of that. Oh, did they? They did. Yeah.

It's well, because that sucked. Yeah. I think they the team with a higher regular season gets home field. Okay. But, yes, there was that stretch where they were starting in 2017.

Which is kind of ridiculous if you think about it. If you're just an awesome team and you can't get home yeah. If you're going on the road because Shadoor Sanders threw three picks for you in this Pro Bowl. Not letting this dude determine. Yeah.

Alright. We stopped him. I think that was a good three and out. I think negative yardage. They're punting.

Yes. NFL check-in. I mean, just like we all predicted, Sam Darnold versus Drake May for the Super Bowl. Any any big takeaways from the conference championship games and heading into the Super Bowl? The Patriots win was so Patriots where you've got a quarterback who you know, I don't even what did he end with?

56 yards or whatever he had. It's like in the conditions, and that's just how the pit that's that's why you have Mike Vrabel to win those sorts of games. So, that game and I'm okay with climate games and stuff, but that game was that was it was one for the ages to watch. Jared Stidham out there, who looked like Jared Stidham. That's just tough break for the Broncos fans because Bo Nix was, you know, playing so well.

It just stinks. But New England gets to these moments because they capitalize. The the seahawks just looked incredible, man. That team is so good, so well coached, both sides of the ball. You know, it's gonna be really challenging for them for New England to beat them if they're playing at all phases, the way they are.

I will say that it's it's also very challenging because the Patriots always find a way. I I dude, I am the jury is still out. I my my head is telling me to go with the seahawks, but it's the Patriots. So by by next week, we don't have to put in our Super Bowl picks this week, but I I'm just letting you know I'm I'm wrestling back and forth. Mhmm.

The line is currently seahawks minus three and a half. So Vegas likes Sam Darnold. Yeah. That yeah. Watching the Broncos Patriots game, I'm like, bears would win this game.

Bears could beat either of these teams. And then watching the NFC championship, I was like, bears could play with these teams. The when we last talked, I feel like it was Tuesday right after the bears loss, and now I've come around to, like I've had time to sit with it a little more, and it stings even more. I feel like because they were so close. It was and just that was the first Sunday in a while.

I'm like, oh, the bears aren't playing today. This sucks. So but I did go back and rewatch part of the fourth quarter in the overtime of the bears rams game just to relive in that twenty minute window where after the Caleb Williams touchdown throw to tie it and before he threw the interception in overtime where for this brief moment in time, it felt like that was the greatest playoff throw touchdown pass of all time. And just as right before the interception, I just turned turned it off. I was like, yep.

That's the I need to bottle up that fifteen minute window because felt good. That's good for you for getting that far. I wanted to comment too as watching the playoffs and watching the seahawks. Dude, Rashid Shaheed, it's like, how did this how did the saints just this guy has been this guy has been unbelievable in the playoffs, and the saints just trade him away to the seahawks. This is why teams continue to be good and better.

They just, like, make those sorts of moves for those sorts of players. They just saw Shahid, and they knew the saints were offloading, and they're like, this guy can make a difference. And by god, man, every time I'm watching the seahawks game, I'm like, Jesus. It's Shahid again. He caught a ridiculous play.

Last time the saints were playing the colts in Indy, he had, like, a long catch or touchdown. I was just like, this guy is lightning, and now he's gonna be doing it on the biggest stage. Yeah. No. That Shaheed, anytime touchdown in the Super Bowl.

Book it. That's a good bet. Good prop. Alright. Market watch presented by Card Ladder.

What are cards selling for out there? There's a lot, and there's we've got, I think, six entries today, but I had to go because there was a there was a big, auction premier auction. There's just the the the volume or the the the sold price on some of these, dude. So let's start with this this 2014 flawless emerald out of five Brady. You've got the the what do you what do you call this?

The at this path, like, flying over? Yeah. But it's the, like, the back I don't know. The back of the hat? Yeah.

The tail. I don't know. The tail. That that's what I'm looking for. But you've got the out of five tail patch, the BGS nine five.

Dude, this thing sold in the premier auction for a $156,000, which is so much money. And, I think, like, we were not we both we're not, like, big patch collectors, so we probably tend to not talk about patch stuff as much. But think, like, with a sale like this in a era of football cards, like the Panini era, like, these sales continue to solidify, like, 2014 flawless to me. It starts with, like, this top tier guy who continues to push the market, and Brady is doing that with these cards. So I dude, I know I it seems like this is one of the most beloved and revered sets in the Panini era, and we're just seeing just crazy sales of these cards over and over again.

So I wanted to spotlight that one for all the game use junkies out there. Yeah. And I was looking. This sold in September for 204,000 via Fanatics Premier. So Okay.

So it a 50 k dive. That's still just an insane amount of money. What would you do with a $156,000 hobby wise if you just That's a break. Put out a bounty for Andrew Luck finite? You can start to do some really creative stuff.

Like, one of the things I would probably do without any remorse is I would just probably buy, like, 10 cards on my watch list that I thought were always overpriced, but I've always wanted. Like, that would be a move. Yep. I would I would publicize. Like, I'd be like, I have money for you.

Help me find this card. I put out bounties for specific cards. I would have a lot I dude, I would I would spend the first 50 k just by, like, not even thinking about it being like, this is what I've always wanted to do. Like, a Saturday morning with a cup of coffee, just buying cards. Just smashing bin.

Yeah. What about you? Truly, same same thing. There's some stuff out there that, I'd probably bin, then I'd probably find auctions that are ending soon and just be like, I'm gonna win that. I'd I'd be reckless with at least a portion of it.

Maybe buy some sealed wax. I like sitting on sealed wax. Maybe, like, about that would be sick to have a 2012 Prism football sealed box, but then the temptation to open it. I might rip wax to go with my New Year's resolutions. I might spend a $150,000 on wax.

That now that I think about it, make a it's like the Chappelle sketch, Tyrone Biggums when he gets, like, $200 and he just throws one crack party with $200,000. I just I'd have Pat Nicholson's $150,000 wax rip party and pull pull nothing. I would do that too. I would I would buy some cases, and I would just stash them away and, like, on dude, I as a as a parent, Christmas is forever about the kids now, and it's like you're just trying to, like, make them happy. But that would be fun to be like, you know what?

That $50,000 worth of cases that I bought this year, it's time to go break one of those babies open, special occasion occasion, and that would be fun, man. That is some, like dude, I see you see, like, whenever Shine goes live, it's like he's ripping, like, flawless cases or something. It's like with a glass a wine glass in his hand. It's like, dude, yeah, this is kind of ridiculous, but also, like, that would be kind of fun just to, so much fun. Yeah.

I even care about it. Yeah. Just pull it out a box like it's a nice old glass of wine. Like, ah, here we have twenty twelve Prism football. Oh, yeah.

This rip that open. Yeah. No. If if I had fucking money, I'd be ripping so much of that wax. Why not?

Because then when you hit something, eventually, you're due. You're gonna hit something. No doubt. We're going to another Brady. And, dude, this 2014 BGS nine five Brady Prism Gold sold for $96,000.

What's interesting, in '25, it sold for $99,000. And this is a population three, so I haven't even checked this. The 82 different certs sold. So but, dude Okay. That it's like it's a gold in 2014 almost selling for a 100 k.

Like, it's just that's wild. And I know Brady collectors, the tie in, whatever, but that's just it defy like, when you're going through the checklist of should this be a 100 k card? Like, I don't know. This shows to me, this shows the strength of Prism to see something like this. Well, yeah.

And there's 10 copies. Yeah. And so it's like, then what's the finite worth? If a gold is worth a $100,000 from 2014, what's his $20.12 gold? What's the twenty twelve finite worth?

I I need that Brady twenty twelve finite to surface in my lifetime. I just wanna see that go up for auction and all that. Seen the twenty fourteen Brady finite? Didn't that sell recently, or was it the 13? Didn't someone 13.

Someone got the 13 recently. Yeah. I haven't seen the 14. No. I don't think I've seen the 14 either.

That's a that's a sick card. One thing I did notice about this 2014 Prism Gold, Brady, 2022, it sold for 14 k of BGS 95. So what a nice little come up there. And I was wondering, do you ever see sales like that? And I don't know if FOMO is the right word, but sometimes I'm like, damn it.

Why was I buying Jay Cutler cards in 2022 and not just buying Tom Brady cards or putting my money into something that would make money? But then I have to remind myself, if I was trying to do the buys with money in mind, they don't work out for me and couldn't do it. But, yeah, sometimes it's like, wow. 14 k to a 100 k in three years is is a pretty nice come up for somebody. Like, it just takes so many things for that to happen.

Like, you have someone who's, like, a Brady collector who's got the disposable income, who sees something and has the money to be like, I'm okay with paying this. And then on top of that, like, the environment with market conditions and football cards continues to elevate, and then Brady, of a sudden, is the GOAT, for sure, the GOAT, and then everything is based off of his market. Just like all these things that we've seen, and this is this might be a good off season, like, chronological, like, how did we get here? Like because this this was not this would not even be thought of to happen five, six years ago. But now it's like we look at it and we're like, yeah.

This is kind of a crazy sale, but it's not crazy based on what we've seen. It just the I I obsess over kind of this how did we get here a lot and, like, reverse engineering it. But, dude, it always starts with and this is why I, like, always tell people, like, there's stuff you love, and you want it for your collection, and they're and you're spending more than anyone ever has on this card or the product, like, just go. Like, get it. You never know.

Like, if you love it, just go for it because crazy things can take place, and we've seen that. Just there this is one isolated instance. In football cards across the entire category, this has been going on. And we don't, like, talk about it enough. Like, football cards were hardly, like, discussed in mainstream conversations, like, five, six years ago.

And, I've talked I go back to sacking slabs content. I've been talking about football cards the entire run. And I will say, like, it was really this moment where it hit this escalator. It was like this the Brady Mahomes Super Bowl. It was like that moment, like, was when there was a lot more confidence and more interest.

Yeah. And so I think all of those things I I think they're fun to look into, and maybe we can dig into them in more detail, in a later season. Yeah. And just looking back even further, 04/29/2016 on eBay at auction, 2014, Prism football, Tom Brady, gold Prism, number 10 out of 10, sold for a $107. Oh my god.

A raw copy? Raw looks yeah. Raw copy. There's no image for it. That's what I'm saying, man.

100 dot can you imagine a card you bought for a $100 being worth a 100,000? Like, I don't think we'll ever see No. Like, I don't think in ten years from now, cards you're buying for a $100 are worth a $100,000. Like, that's just not gonna happen. But Because the rookie thing got destroyed.

It was like people thought they shouldn't like, you can't put this much money into a nonrookie card and, like, that, like, that's another story. It's like, when did this get destroyed? Because that got destroyed, and then people started buying stuff every any year. I'd say that got destroyed. Like, look at a Jordan Green PMG.

Like, those Yeah. Have been desirable. They not not from this jump, like but I think probably early two by early two thousands, I feel like the green PMG was a top Jordan card for collection. Comes back to Jordan. Yeah.

But Yeah. That's a Alright. Almost the last year's you know, '98, then he's not those aren't playing your cards, I believe Sure. Technically. So yeah.

But, yes, I think maybe it started with Jordan and then also these creative sets that people were drawn to, and then the combination of those two things helped, at least in the Jordan example, kinda buck the rookie card trend. But, yeah, as you move on, I don't know. It's crazy. There there is there's a lot to unpack there of how we got here. That's I will I will say this before we move on.

I'm a big twenty fourteen guy. I love twenty fourteen with all of my heart and soul. I love how different it looks. Yeah. All of the above.

If if I'm sitting here staring at this card, this football card has absolutely everything I want in a football card. The image of Brady is so stoic just sitting back in the pocket, getting ready to unleash the gold background, the the everything about the design of this card, like the nameplate at the bottom, prism up at the top. This card is absolutely stunning to me. And when I first saw it, every time I see one of these, I'm just like, it grabs me. And so I do not have, you know, 90 k plus to spend on a Brady 2014 gold prism.

But when you're in a income bracket where you can do that, I can see why you get captivated by a card like this because it's amazing. Yeah. That's Brady Brady cards always look good because he's always like, they always say he stands like a statue back there, and he's just like there is, like, in my mind, a clear picture of Tom Brady standing in the pocket of, like, this is what he's about to do. He's probably gonna find someone wide open underneath, or he's gonna bomb it down the field to, like but he's just standing in the pocket looking above everything. So, yeah, that's an awesome awesome card.

Tom Brady always had time. That's for damn sure. Alright. How about this? 98, Deon Sanders, gym masters, one of one.

This thing there's so much to talk about here. This thing sold for $87,000. And the interesting thing about this card is this is a follow-up sale. So this thing sold on alt in October for 116 k. It is confirmed in card lighter selling for 116 k.

Turned around in the premier for a haircut of 87 k, which you hate to see that on a card like this. Like, what's going on here? Like, this card picked up, then sold, losing money. There's a lot to be said there. But I will say this because I've I've done the investigation unless someone spent more time investigating.

The 100 at 116 or at 87 k, this is the highest selling card of a defensive player of all time. So Yeah. How you doing? That's crazy. Alt with a record sale.

Alt having a lot of these record sale. But, yeah, that October sale for a 160, I would I would bet some money or go as far to say, like, I bet the person who bought the this card in October, this is the only Deion Sanders card they had. Like, I would wager that, which I'm not saying that's good or bad, but I feel like you like seeing when the card like this ends up being, like, the crowning moment of a collection where it's, like, someone who has a vast Dion collection or Cowboys collection who's known about this card forever and always wanted it, and it finally becomes available, and they're able to get it. And it becomes, like, that the final piece when it's just someone buying it because they wanna sell it four months later and hope that they make money and take a $30,000 haircut. I I don't wanna be like, I don't feel bad for them, but I don't know.

I guess that's just the game you play when you're buying to sell quickly on, speculation and hype because we've also seen them like that Brady go from 14 to a 100. So, like, who's to say if it's right or wrong? But, no. I just like these types of cars, love when they end up in, like, a collection that, you know, they're the final piece to, instead of just floating around selling every six months. No doubt.

I I will say I love the PMG in '98, and I love how dramatically different the gym masters look on all accounts in '98. And to me, with a one of one parallel, the move to make it look different but recognizable but aesthetically pleasing. Like, when you get all of those elements together, that amounts to a card selling for this much money, you know, years later. I just think the player matters, obviously, but then all the other things matter even more. And I think gym masters and these, like, dude, every time I see one of them pop up, I think it's so cool because we're so used to seeing the PMG.

But, yeah, crazy, crazy sale. Yep. Alright. How about this one, dude? I dug through, and I didn't see anyone talking about it, but I found this one on eBay.

Twenty ten Tops Chrome Superfractor. Brett Favre PSA nine selling for $12,677 at auction. Favre is in the Vikings gear, which obviously he had success as a Viking. You know what? It doesn't it I I can see a Vikings card and the NFC championship is so ingrained in my mind that it doesn't feel too weird seeing him in it, but it it it had me ask the question of, like, there's a lot of FARV collectors out there.

And it's like, with a sale like this, is there is there no interest at all for the Viking stuff, especially since it's a divisional rival or what? But regardless, twenty ten, Tops Chrome, Superfractors kick ass. I love the the the nameplates at the bottom of the team. It's unique. They're the design rules.

Like, this FARV is under center in this card. It's just a sick card. Yeah. Twenty ten Top Scrum. Some of the best photography, that Top Scrum did during that, like, 2010 to o nine's great too, or o nine's strong.

Yeah. Favre with the Vikings. This does this doesn't look crazy to me, like, to your point, I think, because that he played two years in Minnesota, but that first year where they go twelve and four, He throws 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions. It was, like, his greatest interception percentage season ever. Favre was a notorious interception thrower.

NFL record, 336 interceptions in his career, which is insane. But, yeah, over an interception a game for his whole career. Wow. No one talks about that. But, yeah, he had this great Viking season that go all way to NFC championship.

So, like, this to me looks better than, like, him and the Jets in a Jets uniform. Of of course, dude. But then I think him on the Jets, I just think of the, the DM Twitter DM Oh, yeah. On the hotel bed or wherever he was. That's his Jets career to me.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, dude is a total scumbag. We all know that. Can't believe anyone would ever collect Brett Favre. But, just kidding.

But, yeah, I don't know if Favre collectors care about Viking stuff or not. I feel like most FARV collectors, off the top of head, I can think of our Packers fans. So, like, the Sure. That they're, partial to the Green Bay stuff and wouldn't want Vikings. But $12 for this card is that's a strong sale for, again, like a not the team you wouldn't expect to see him in selling for that much is there's something there.

Cool card. Alright. We're moving over to the first card of a player that actually plays in the NFL right now, and it's your boy. I saw this one. 24, Caleb Williams, Prism, rookie, white sparkle, PSA 10 pop two.

This thing sold for $10,000. $10,500. We've been talking on this a lot about Caleb's getting some fans based on the or collector base, maybe based on what he's done, you know, with these quarterbacks. You kinda gotta be careful with, like, going too much too all in, but Caleb Williams has already provided Chicago bears fans more, great moments in, you know, one year than, you know, probably all your quarterbacks combined. So this is what kinda gets people excited and interesting interested.

Obviously, SSP, not a gold or whatever, but 10.5 k, I thought was a pretty strong price on this Caleb. You're a Caleb guy. What say you? That I was shocked when I saw this price. I don't know enough about white sparkles.

I don't know anything about them, to be honest. So these are, like, from the packs. Right? White sparkle packs that you get for redemptions? Or, like, how does one acquire a white sparkle pack?

Oh, man. Panini rewards. I have not looked in a while on what if it's changed or whatever, but, there is a total population across PSA, BGS, and SGC of 20. So there's Wow. So, you know, you're working with which I would imagine if you got your hands on a Caleb, you're sending it to get graded because it just he's a part of that, like, immediate grade culture guy.

He's one of those guys. Yeah. No. That it's a sick looking card too. No.

Not I'm not It is. Knock in white sparkle. I just don't know enough about it. It's like, do I need this card? I don't know.

More than I could spend on a Caleb Williams card. But to your point, he he's the first bears quarterback that has a highlight reel. Totally. Like, Justin Fields had a highlight reel too. Yeah.

Justin Fields had a moment, but most of those were runs, and they were losing games. Caleb, like, not only does he have a highlight reel, but, like, they won games. They won a playoff game. He beat the packers in the playoffs. Like, that's a guy I'm gonna collect forever.

Like, he doesn't like, I hope this is just the start of his career, and this is, like, the worst he'll ever be because it's only his second year, first year with Ben Johnson. I'm hoping this is something that's sustainable for the next several years, and there'll be more highlights and moments. But even if he just, like, retired tomorrow, he's probably the best Bears quarterback. He is the best Bears quarterback I've ever watched, and I would, collect him probably for the rest of my life. Like, I have Shane McClellan cards because he broke Aaron Rodgers' collarbone and when they beat the packers.

Like, that one moment is worthy of me of getting his cards in my collection. So Caleb, who not only beat the packers twice, beat them in the playoffs, it's like he's solidified forever. I'm there's no question. Dude, I wanna see you sell everything and just build out the Caleb Williams PC. It would be so fun to be, like, a spectator and just watch you do that.

I would I would have a blast doing that. Right? There's thoughts in my mind of, like, during this, like, Prism '25 release of, like, if certain things pop up, how far am I willing to go Mhmm. In order to get, you know there are cards I'd love love to acquire. So we'll see.

But I'm also with Caleb. I'm having fun discovering not the Prism sets. Yeah. That's fun. So expensive.

So it's you know, what what else is Panini doing in this last hurrah? And, like, what are some of the inserts or cards there? Like, even I've been looking at optic inserts. I'm like, some of these are sick. Maybe I start you know, what are other lanes to, maybe ski down with Caleb?

So, like because, yeah, $10,000 for this, this isn't what I would spend 10,000 Right. On. If I had if I had a 10 k Caleb budget, I think there's other other things I'd go after. He has a totally certified black one zero one rookie sitting on eBay for, like it was 5 k. The guy relisted it, I think, for 7,500.

I was like, I'd rather have that than Yeah. The white sparkle. Yeah. I white sparkles, I think, are cool. They're they're good looking.

And we close this out, MarketWatch, just because this card's so sick. We are talking about a 97 Marshall Faulk Skybox premium rubies. This is a PSA pop to zero hire selling for $4,716, dude. Seems like we can't do an episode without talking about 97. I know we we try to service all different avenues of the football card collecting community, but I think if you are a nineties collector by now, you probably know, like, in terms of, like, a non one of one, parallel base parallel, I think this is maybe this would certainly be on both our mutual Mount Rushmore.

Right? Yeah. That's awesome. 97 rubies are awesome. What was the pop on this one?

It was pop two, none higher. Look how clean Falk's jersey is. It's like he just started the game, dude. Yeah. And you see the logo on the side of the helmet.

That that's just a great card. Falke still, like, underappreciated, I feel like. Example, I I should have dropped this in here because it was a sale. That was crazy to me. But there was a 2,005 finest gold refractor Jeremy Schauke that sold for, like, $300.

Wow. Gold refractor? Yeah. Yeah. So, like, January 20, Jeremy Schauke, 2005, tops finest gold refractor out of 49 raw, $316 on eBay.

And there there's a folk of the same o five gold just sitting on eBay for, like, $200. Buy it now. It's I'm like, there's no one like Falk. Is this Jeremy Shockey sale just insane? Like, what what's going on here?

But, yeah, I think for whatever reason, Falk doesn't get as much low. Like, I want I'm curious now what is, like, the Barry Sanders 9 97 rubies go for. I bet that's, like, a Ugh. $20,000 card maybe. Like, some Oh, yeah.

Something like that. So and when you look at their careers, it's like, Falk was so good. Falk was won MVPs. He won a Super Bowl. He won, like, I don't know.

Falk shout out Marshall Falk. Underappreciated. Yeah. Barry Sanders, a PSA seven sold for $57,000. Barry Sanders.

And you got Marshall Falk for 5 k. It's crazy. For all the stat nerds out there who like to marry that with collecting, Marshall Falk always seems like an opportunity, definitely, when I do the same run through. Yeah. But that it's and then it all goes back to, like, Tim Duncan prices.

You know, there's just certain players or, Curtis Martin. It's, certain players that I don't know if they don't conjure up the highlight moments. I feel like they don't The prices aren't don't match. Alright. Cool sales.

Let's do, any collecting updates before we get out of here? Yeah. So maybe we'll just we since I've been back and forth so much on it and just show you how mentally weak I am, the first gold prism cold that I saw, which this was, like, the I have not seen anything. Yeah. Nope.

It's just a base gold, no shimmer, But it was the the the one I wanted the most because I have his rookie, and this is his follow-up, is the Alec Pierce '20 25 gold prism. Just, like, so early, just randomly came out and thankfully had people send it to me. And it was listed at 125OBO. And there's, like, this element you have when you're, like, creating this, like, master set where you're, like, okay. Thinking about prices and I if if it's like, I will make an offer or be patient if it's a player that I need, but it's not, like, a strong connection, especially with the goal that's like, I'll eventually get one.

I don't need to have it right now. This was one that, like especially after the pure season and just how much I enjoy him that I needed right now. And I thought, like, one twenty five OBO, like, dude, I'm just gonna smash Ben on this. And I because to me, that's what it's worth. Like, to have the the the only other Alec Pierce with his rookie and to have these together.

And I just love the image. It's just like, I just imagine Pierce going up and grab I mean, you know, they're the Colts this guy had a contract year. He had an incredible year. He he they're what I think is gonna happen, they're franchise tag him, and they'll probably work out a bigger deal. But, like, to me, he's the most important note of the off season for the colts.

This guy is incredible. He's been continually soaring. He is the Colts' number one receiver. And, dude, I love this guy. He's been so good.

So this is a card I had to get. Yeah. And, like, I think that's a good buy. Like, what are you gonna do? Like, pass on this to try and get it one for 80?

Yeah, dude. I don't think he's like, he's an ascending player too. Yes. Like, I'm just kinda searching through twenty twenty five Prism Gold out of 10 sales on card ladder, and there's a a Jaden Reed gold shimmer sold for a $150. Okay.

Right. That makes me feel good. Yeah. This is true gold of, like I would say, Alec Pierce's future is brighter than Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed kinda he's a wide receiver three.

The green all Green Bay does is have wide receiver twos and threes. So Alec, the it's hard to feel like there's a bright future even though, like, it's just, like, when you wrap your mind around, like, okay. If people are just healthy, next year, we'll be okay. But, like, one thing I'm very confident of is just, like, how freaking good this unicorn player and having one of those on your team who can just make big plays is so important, and the Colts haven't had a guy like this in forever. So I'm all I'm all in at Al on Alec Pierce.

And I I kinda laugh when I see, like, other teams in free agency and be like, oh, maybe we'll go after Alec Pierce. I'm just like, you don't think they're gonna they drafted this guy, and he's continually going getting better every year. And you don't think they're going to use the franchise tag if they don't have to? So that's what's keeping me in bed at night. It's like, oh, thank god for the franchise tag.

At least they can use that if they need it. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a bright future for sure. Has he been in every year of Prism?

No. He he was in his rookie year, and this is the only other one. And this is why I wanted it so bad. Yeah. That's a great card.

Goodbye. But, yeah, I feel like that was like how long ago did you buy that? Over a week ago? This yeah. I bought it.

That's a good question. Where are all the prints and golds? That's my question. That that's what that's what I'm saying, and that this was part of my, when did I buy this card? I bought it on January 22.

We're recording on January 28. But this is a part of my question is, does this feel release feel different? Because there is no Prism go it's like this one just fell out of thin air, and it's like, here it is. But, like, I've been, like, tracking every day. It's just like the stuff is not popping.

Like, I'm used to it. And I don't know why this one came. It's just weird. Yeah. It's is everything are the are the kids ripping and breaking, not selling on eBay?

Is everything selling on whatnot or somewhere else? Like, where am I looking in the wrong place for Prism Golds these days? Is the Dude. I I have no idea. I don't know.

I don't yeah. Are we washed? We are washed. That is for damn sure. What did you have you picked up anything?

I hadn't for a while, but last night, a 2025 mosaic black one of one DJ Moore popped up on eBay. I think I was the first person to see it, because I had no watchers. I saw it. It was $300 OBO. I offered $2.50.

They countered $2.75. I purchased it. I have the Caleb Williams twenty twenty five Mosaic black one zero one. So to pair DJ and Caleb together after what, the amazing plays they had this season against the packers too. It's like, again, plays and games I will never forget.

So, there seem to be questions around DJ, his future with the team. I hope he stays. I think he's a good veteran presence in the locker room, but I don't know. There's people are mad about the Caleb interception play and his effort on that play. And if he did the right thing, if he did the wrong thing, I think a lot of people are to blame on that play.

I don't like the play call. I don't like the throw. I don't like the effort. So I don't know. But regardless, DJ Moore, I'm very fond of DJ Moore.

He represents kinda the bears turning it around and trading for him and the pick and getting Caleb and yeah. I just a card I had to get. I honestly should've just binned it for 300 because I feel like I risk losing it. Because I was looking up other, like, mosaic black 2025 sales, and there's some it's so hard with, like, one on ones to know what you should pay when, like, Golden Tate's selling for $250 or, like, Altoona is selling for $250. I'm like, okay.

Whatever. For DJ Moore, let's just get it. But, yeah, that's that's the only pickup for me for a while, actually. Looking forward to seeing those paired together once you eat that land. Yes.

I'm excited for that. Alright. Card call out. Autographs. Autographs was a great turnout.

I love seeing some good cigs. We're gonna, again, workshop this in real time. Two options that I had written down. I wanna hear your thoughts, Brad. Favorite NFL moment from the season plus a card.

So trying to get people to, you know, current players, any sort of highlight moment from the season, like, time for you to reflect on your season. So maybe you could be like, hey. Alec Pierce. That's a good match. It probably will be an Alec Pierce moment.

Exactly. That's an option. Or option two I had is just longest card in your collection. Just try and see some of those. I don't know.

I just like seeing when people have had cards for a really long time. And we could use one this week, one next week, but do either of those speak to Let's let's let's do the first one this week of of Favorite NFL moment? Yes. Because it you know what I why I want that is because there are people out there that collect certain players that I don't necessarily know that they're they, like, collect let's just say they collect like Brady, but they're a Seahawks fan. But they have some Seahawks cards that we don't so it's like, that's what I wanna know.

I wanna know basically, from this, I'm excited to see your cards, but I wanna know, like, who you're a fan of. Like, I have a general sense of my community who people like, but there's a lot of people sometimes they'll be like, I don't even know who they cheer for. Yeah. Yes. Okay.

So card episode 32 card call out. Favorite NFL moment. It doesn't have to be the single favorite. Just like what was a awesome moment that you were happy to watch and then have a card of that player who you're a fan of. Take a picture.

Tag the football card pod on Instagram. We'll reshare them all. And, yeah, we'll see you next week.