Hello, and welcome to the Football Card Podcast. You did it. You made it. It's Friday, and you are listening to the fastest growing podcast in the entire world that's centered around football cards and, most importantly, football cards.

I'm your host, John aka Pack Nicholson. And with me as always is Brett, mister stacking slabs himself.

Brett, how are you doing? I'm well. I'm caffeinated. It has been a morning where I've been just trying to get organized. End of the year, still in this in between period of waiting on my new daughter to arrive.

Scrambling, always thinking about football cards. I I can't really complain. But for anyone out there who has to, like, close deals, like, throughout the holidays, like, you're a different breed.

I'm feeling that this year of, like, trying to close deals for the stacking slabs brand, and getting people's attention is is is not the easiest during this period because of other priorities, but, like, the holidays.

But I'm trying to trying to just, like, manage that, and everything will get done.

And I'm in a good place, which, I had, you know, different sentiment to talk about my football team, but we'll do that later. How are you? I'm good. Yeah. End of the year. Holiday's approaching. Football is fun again.

Big game this weekend, though. Can't get ahead of myself. Just one week at a time. But, yeah, to be watching the team I root for play meaningful games in December, that's that's all I've wanted for the past seven years.

It's all, it's all I've wanted to see. So, yeah, vibes are high over on this side. I I typically am in your position where I'm like, I just want meaningful games that count, which is actually what's happening right now.

Like, I'm in a position where meaningful games count, and it's there's stakes on everything, especially to this point. But I'm I'm more terrified than ever before, and more more on that later.

But I'm what are we at? 26? Yeah. Episode 26. Season three, episode two. We we keep doing it. Chugging along. 26. That's half a year. We've been doing this weekly.

It's this is the six month episode. Wow. Who would have thought? Hope, I think the the audience is growing. People like football cards, and people like football. It is is is this is this the new America's pastime? I think so.

And, like, I think we can now claim longest running football park card podcast of all time. I think we're up in, you know, like, the what is that soap opera that is, like, still going? Days of our Lives, but then there was one.

There's another. General Hospital? General Hospital ran forever. Or, like, Simpsons are the longest running in All My Children? I gotta I gotta find it. My mom's the soap opera. She's she's always had the the soap operas on growing up.

Guiding Light is what I was thinking. The longest running American soap opera in history beginning on radio in 1937, moving to TV in '52, and ending in 2009 after seventy two years across both mediums.

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Mhmm. I had never noticed that up until going through this process.

So shout out, Josh, making stuff happen. Or it maybe it's always been there. I just never noticed. But yeah. I and I actually while I love the dashboard, I just, like, popped it over to my wife, and I go, yeah.

You see this what we're spending what I'm what's spending my money on these with these cards? Look at look at the what card ladder says they're valued at. It's like, I don't need a I don't need a four zero one k.

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That's right. Alright. Episode 26, number 26. This is the twenties have been interesting. I feel like there's we've been, like, low on hall of famers, but then there are some good memorable personal players.

But '26, the hall of famers, Herb Aderley, Rod Woodson, John Patty Driscoll, Benny Friedman, Paul Krauss, Ty Law, which is, like, the same thing. Did Ty Law play, like, one season on '26? Because then we just talk about him for '24.

Yes. He played one year in Denver as number 26. But someone I wanted to talk about from that list real quick, where did he go? Patty Driscoll. I just you know you know I love these nineteen twenties players.

And then What can you tell me about Patty? Patty Driscoll. I love these old Wikipedias where just the first line of being, was an American professional football and baseball player and coach, a triple threat man in football.

He was regarded as the best drop kicker and one of the best overall players of the early years of the NFL.

So Patty Driscoll from Chicago actually played for the Cubs, then he went and played American professional football for the Hammond Clabbies in 1917, which, again, I love just names from the nineteen twenties are always the best.

Like, even Here's a baseball card, a 1919 zenith p c l Driscoll without the coup without the coupon. No. Yeah. The the no coupon version. How much was that? Jeez. $4. 37. What what's the highest selling?

Not very much. You've got an a thousand dollar cut cut auto. Cut auto? Okay. So a new card. Good job, Patty. From 2018. It's got the Chicago Bears cut auto cut auto on, looks like, loose leaf, paper. That's a pretty That's a nice thing.

Yeah. Not a bad it it's like pencil, which is cool. But just the the one point I wanted to get to. So he plays for the Hammond Clabbies, which is some like, he wins, though, like, the professional championship of Indiana.

So a Hoosier, he's playing, doing everything. Then he goes and joins the Navy as one does during World War one, comes back and plays for the Angels in baseball. Then he comes back to Chicago.

He plays for the Chicago Cardinals. But what the main point is the Chicago Cardinals finished the 1920 season with a seven two and two record, good for fourth place out of 14 teams in the NFL's inaugural season.

Driscoll was selected as the first team quarterback on the inaugural 1920 All Pro team, making him the first ever All Pro quarterback in NFL history.

This is where we were getting to. That We love all pros. We love all pros, and there's there's the OG. It's John Patty Driscoll.

And his highest selling card is $1,000. How the people just forget how you're you're out here buying Justin Herbert cards instead of old JPD. What are you doing? This is why I wanted you to be a part of making this show happen.

It's just that is just pure gold. Thank you. I feel so educated now, and I'll never forget the name. Absolutely. Other 20 sixes, I had to shout out Tim Jennings, cornerback for the Colts.

I believe he won the Super Bowl with the Colts. I think he was on that squad. Maybe not a major player, but then he came over to the bears and had some great years with the bears.

He made a couple of pro bowls with the bears. He led the league with nine interceptions in 2012. So, yep, it says he's a Super Bowl champ.

He so his rookie year, he must have been, maybe, maybe not. He was a player that was so was so frustrating to have on the team because you knew of the he had the potential, but there was always mistakes.

I remember vividly, Lambo game, Peyton and Lambo. And it was maybe one of the worst games I've ever seen out of a cornerback from getting toasted in penalties, and we got beat by the Packers.

And then, of course, when you let go of these guys who've been so frustrating, you watch them and see how they do.

And most of the time, they're pretty consistently the same way, except there's an instance where this was like, oh, of course, Tim Jennings is playing like a pro bowler on the Bears after we get rid of him.

That it was the he is like an example.

Got it. One of those types of players for me. Yeah. I was I was looking and seeing that his interceptions in his four years with Indy, zero zero two two. And then he goes to the Bears and quickly goes one two nine four.

Yeah. Nice, nice little run there. Tim Jennings. And then I gotta shout out some a a trio of fantasy running back studs, Saquon Barkley, Jahmeer Gibbs, and a personal favorite, Le'Veon Bell.

Just unreal. And then Clinton Portis. I mean, another fantasy star, and I just loved Clinton Portis. His first two years with the Broncos were absolutely electric.

Ran for 1,500 yards in both those seasons, rookie of the year. And then, yeah, the trade for Champ Bailey to Washington and still had a strong career. Almost ended with 11,941 scrimmage yards and 80 touchdowns.

Clint, those are some career numbers. I bet if you stack them up, he's right up there with a lot of those guys who are the Fred Taylors and the Eddie George's, those other guys who are kinda on the cusp of getting in the hall.

That that, Willis McGahee, Clinton or excuse me. Why did I say Willis McGahee? Clinton Portis and Miami, you're thinking of the u, the right That's right. That's right. I'm I'm getting infected by the hurricanes.

Clinton Portis and Champ Bailey trade is, like, an all time trade. I I remember when that happened, and they they just don't make trades like they used to with that one. No. Everyone's just trading picks now.

I wanna see players get traded. Coaches get traded. When's it we we need we're due for a good coach trade. Well, there there was there was, who were they talking about? There was rumors of a potential coach trade.

I went maybe it was maybe that you never know what to believe. But maybe when it was, like, LaFleur was, maybe Didn't McVeigh wasn't McVeigh talking about retiring or something for a little bit?

Yeah. There's always this speculation. But, yeah, the the coach trades are, those are fun. Yeah. Gruden got traded. That that happened, I believe. Did To away from the Bucks.

Did Sean Payton get traded? Did did they, like, have his rights? Or is that Oh, I don't know. Oh, to the Broncos? That could have happened. Yeah. And, yeah, this is great radio. I'm just speculating on. I'll jump in and and and share.

Who are you guys? Yeah. I wanted to spotlight Rod Woodson. Rod Woodson, I think I would consider him, me if I'm talking, like, top 10 defenders of all time, like, Rod Woodson's name is probably in that conversation.

He's a Hoosier from Fort Wayne, Indiana. He's got six first team all pros, three second team all pros, 71 career interceptions, which makes him third all time.

Rod Woodson is one of those players, and I'll I'll I'll there's, like, three players that come to my mind when I was a kid and growing up. And, like, the NFL PA was, like, promoting players in things, like, folders or video games.

And, like, usually, you get, like, one player per team. And I was always, like I I always admired the teams that, like, were promoting a defensive player.

And, I think about, the names that come to my mind was, like, Junior Seau was, like, when I was a kid, was always, like, the charger player.

I think about Cortez Kennedy. He was always, like, the Seahawks guy. I think about Derrick Thomas being, like, the Chiefs guy, and then Rod Woodson was, like, the Steelers representation.

So they were, like, those were, like, the four defenders. Everyone else, like, had a quarterback in terms of, like, what they were trying to market or promote.

But, yeah. Rod Woodson, was just he was a problem, and he he played just a very, very long career. Most most people remember him as a stealer, obviously, based on longevity.

But just go dig through his, you know, highlight films. Go dig through his stats. Like, he is about as good as it gets, from, his position. So, Rod Woodson, he is the 26 that I think about.

Yep. Hoosier, boiler up. And, yeah, when I forgot he won a Super Bowl with the Ravens. Mhmm. That's yeah. Yeah. Rod Woods is an absolute beast ballhawk. I love I love defensive backs. I love safeties. It's a great position.

Yes. Gruden was traded. Sean Payton wasn't. Because if you remember, Payton did, like, a year of, like, TV in between I didn't know if they, like, had his rights or something. But, yeah, as I was thinking through that, that makes sense.

Yeah. But then so, there Gruden went to the Bucks via a high stakes trade that included Tampa's o two and o three first round draft picks, o two and o four second round draft picks, and 8,000,000 in cash.

Wow. According to one source, Al Davis detailed the trade as such, I never liked it when teams would interfere with coaches under contract.

Tampa came to me and they said they wanted Gruden. I felt that I put the price tag so high that they wouldn't agree to it, but they did.

Gruden is no longer our coach. So, yeah, there was a blockbuster for Gruden back in the day. It was the the savvy move by the box because they ended up wearing winning the Super Bowl.

Yeah. With Dungy's team, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It it happens. But, you know It would take I'm not training Ben Johnson for ten first rounds. I I have to I figured he'd probably feel that way right now.

Never. Never. He's staying forever. Yeah. 20. That's a that's a good little squad. Let's get into some topics in a new segment, three and out. Is this a a new branded segment, three topics that the boys are gonna chop it up about?

Who wants to sponsor it? Yeah. Drake? We we're not doing questions anymore, but Drake, you know, if we're looking for sponsors. First, just some topics I feel like worthy of being discussed here on the Football Card Podcast.

The first being this came across my feed. A 1997 Metal Universe, Barry Sanders, PMG, red, that was signed in person, with a nice blue Sharpie inscribed The Lion King, PSA six with an auto 10.

Now there's there's a lot of conversation, I feel like, about in person autos on, like, already rare cards. I feel like we talked about this once where, like, if you have a basic card and you add a auto, it becomes a cool card.

But if you already have a cool rare card and add an auto, it can sometimes negatively affect it. But and that's generally how I feel.

But I don't know. I was looking at this, and this one doesn't bug me that much. Some maybe it's the blue and the blue or just I don't know. PMG Red's, there's a 100 and what? A 150 of these? I feel like you can could sign one up.

Who who cares? But curious what your thoughts were on this, recent graded card. You know, it's funny. I was evaluating this and just historically, I'm very anti signing of rare and scarce cards, especially of one of one one on ones.

I think, like, there's, like we've talked about, like, the Kurt Warner's, you know, one on ones being supers being signed and stuff.

I think, like, you should be, you know, take your hobby privileges should be taken away if you do something like that.

Although, I walk this fine line because, I am I I am very against trying to tell people what they can or can't do with their cards, especially if it's it's their cards.

I think looking at this example, initially, I had the same feeling, but then my mindset shifted a little bit where I the presentation is nice.

I will give you that. It's a nice I think the marker that was used is perfect for, PMG red. It stands out. And I think maybe from a collector perspective, I understand maybe what you're what they're doing here.

You have a 150, a hundred and forty five Thirty five. 35. Sorry. My math is terrible. Reds. And so by getting an in person autograph with Barry that looks clean like this, like, you're driving up some scarcity.

I don't know how many other I p PMGs there are. Maybe none. But to make that decision to take a card like this and do that, like, it does provide some rarity and scarcity around the card.

So that could be a reason. I I would not do this, but, you know, it's it's kinda cool to see. I also like final note for me, on the Lion King nickname, I I'd love to know the origin of that.

Was it did was it did it was it inspired by the movie? Because if that is the case, even though I'm a big, Timon and Pumbaa fan and love the lion king, I would think less of the nickname if it was inspired.

If it would if it predates the movie itself, then now we're now we're we're on to something big. But I I don't know enough about the nickname, the lion king for Barry Sanders to go one way or the other.

Perhaps, as I'm talking and trying to kill some time, you found out some information on this. You knew I was digging up. I don't remember that, like, ever being a thing No. Before.

I mean, Pro Football Reference, the holy bible here on the Football Card Podcast, generally lists nicknames for players, on their page, and there's nothing for Barry Sanders, talking about the Lion King. Lion King came out in '94.

Sanders entered the league in, what, '89. So, you know, there was crossover there. There he was he had some solid years after the movie was out, but, no, I don't yeah. That's not Negative I don't know. That's not a real nickname.

Negative 75 points if this isn't a real nickname and if this the Lion King nickname is inspired by the movie. Net negative a 175, actually. Yeah. So that's Lion King, though. Lion King started getting some reps around here.

It's a great film. Great film. Great soundtrack. Elton John, man. Yeah. There's just there there's hits in there. What what's your what's your favorite, what's your favorite, quote in the Lion King? Favorite quote. Or scene or moment.

Oh, you're gonna go song, and I was gonna throw out Be Prepared. Be prepared. Dude, I It's I'm a huge scar guy. Like, the, dude, whenever I think of that movie, I think about Mustafa saying, don't turn your back on me, Scar.

And, like, the way Scar just, like, snakes around. I'm like, there's not a bit there is not a better Disney heel than Scar. I mean, he's got the hyenas. He's got the elephant graveyard.

He's taken over Pride Rock. It looks like shit. He's eating all the food. Dude, he he's a murderer. Like, he is his he is his he's his he is a villain, man. Yeah. But kinda what was what why did it what led there?

You know? Like, also Wicked getting a lot of plays around here. So thinking about the origin stories and the, you know, the the backstory behind why we become wicked, and what led Scar to his to the elephant graveyard?

Why wasn't Mustafa looking out for him and, you know, throwing him a literal bone and helping him out?

He's starving with the hyenas. What's going on? I know. That's not a good brother. We need the back story. Why hasn't Disney put out you know, they there must not be any money in, the prequel of Scar. I would watch a Scar spin off.

Same. What what was the other I gotta find no. I'll look at it. No. We don't need to look up the Lion King soundtrack right now, but there's just know there's hits out there. Jonathan Taylor Thomas? Yeah. JTT.

But JTT didn't sing in that. That was a little I read that. Right. He's not the singing voice. Hey. If any of you out there love dying or Lion King, perhaps John and I will do a spin off podcast where we cover The Lion King exclusively.

Yeah. I do want we one of these days, we gotta we when we finally do a break on, the football card pod, I would open some Disney. I would try and go for that scar super fracture.

Are you kidding me? Oh, dude. I'm I'm I'm backing up the Brinks truck for that. I'm a scar guy, man. Sign me up. I'm a scar guy. Secondly, on three and out second down of three and out, spending time with the collection.

I listened to your, solo stacking slabs pod about that and really connected. Like, you were talking about laying out the whole collection, the living room turning into the showcase, which I've done many a times.

And, like, linking cards together, may putting runs together, to me, in my head, it always come becomes like a giant periodic table where I'm trying to get, like, the more links, the better.

Like, if the card can connect to the one above it and the one to the right of it and the one below it, it's like that's that's what we're trying to do here.

And then from there, can I build off and continue, this grid? It's it's like a game of dominoes kind of of just connecting these cards.

So all I wanted to shout out was if if you wanna listen to that, go listen to the solo stacking slabs pods. Great listen. And, yeah, just spend a little time with the collection.

I love, you you plug in my pod inside this pod. I'm glad that resonated. I just I think there is so much we can learn. You saying that, the way describing and connecting, I think about the, three dog night song.

One is the loneliest number. And if I have just one of something, it's never enough. And it's either the grounds to get something to connect to it, or it is grounds to say, see you later.

So you you find these moments when you put all your cards on the floor, and it when I know everyone is busy, got kids, have a job, but find time this holiday stretched to, you know, fifteen, thirty, maybe an hour.

Spend some time with your cards. Yeah. It it's never fifteen. It always goes long. It does. It always runs over. Alright. Third down. This this was from you, and I like this. Yeah. So I was thinking about this.

Maybe it's based on the crazy Brady Superfractor sale. It feels like there has been a lot I've see I've seen some dialogue online. There's been bigger sales, and it's there's more conversation around defensive players, which excites me.

Defensive players rule. Football is all about having great defensive players. It's part of why it's so exciting. So I wanted to ask you.

When you think about the goat of defensive players, not necessarily from an on the field, but from a, card perspective, like, it's very clear based on values and price and audience size that Brady is that for, you can probably argue for both the, game itself and collecting.

And he's opening up stores everywhere too, so he's trying to, like, really solidify that spot. But who do you think about when you think about, the goat for, defensive players in their football cards?

That's tough. Like, because there's so many different ways to measure it. I feel like defensive players, you can't go with the like, like, Super Bowls don't matter the way it matters with the quarterback as much.

So then you go for individual dominance. My mind kind of was then like, is Reggie white just because he has the most sex? Is it like but that's like a the longevity career.

I saw who you put down as yours and I'll mention it. I put down Aaron Donald. And, you know, it's no surprise that I'm a massive Aaron Donald fan, and I've been sad ever since he's, retired.

But, you know, when you're thinking about goat prices I mean, goats, it it it to me, it's like whether we like it or not, like, the price of their cards and how much they sold for always plays a factor.

And I was, I did some looking in card ladder.

He has had nine public 5 figure sales, which is that is a lot for a defensive player. And, you know, we've got, you know, Black Finite 2014 auto, Green Kaboom, got, his Prism Black, our select rookie, stuff like that, Shields.

And I don't know. That to me, that shows that there's a lot and I know Josh privately, I don't can't remember what he bought it for, but spent a lot of money on his black finite rookie.

So there's, like, a lot of conviction. And granted, it's like he is fresh out of this era.

So you've got the convergence of, like, this ultra modern, rise alongside his retirement, alongside, like, you know, moments of him he's always dominated, never had a fall off, won a Super Bowl, like, did all the things.

So yeah. I don't know. For me, he's the I don't know if he is the guy, but to me, when I proposed this question back to you, like, Aaron Donald felt like the right answer to me.

Yeah. And I I could not disagree with that. It It led me down a rabbit hole looking up other defensive sales.

And so TJ Watt, Miles Garrett, their highest cards are in the 7 to 10 k range. Cleo Max, highest sale ever was, like, 5 k. Ray Lewis', 8 k. They're Donald That's crazy, by the way.

That I I looked up right when I put Aaron Donald, it was between Donald and Lewis, and I defaulted towards Donald based on the volume of 5 figure sales. And I was stunned by the fact that there was no 5 figure Ray Lewis sales.

Stunned by it. Well and then it it gets into because, like, this exercise of I was like, alright. Who are what is the highest defensive, like, sale that I can find?

And it's started with, like, searching the best defensive players I could think of, but then it goes into, like, wait. Who has a gem masters? Like, who you know? Like, then you have to start thinking about it from a set perspective.

Sure. Like, because I'm sure some random dude who has a gem masters has sold higher. Yeah. Like, the like, a Reggie White gem masters would fit the criteria of potentially being the highest sold defensive card of all time.

Easily. But, like, he has a case at, like Being the guy too. You have to have both. Yes. And Reggie Waite's highest sale was actually 23,000. He had this, like, USFL card in a PSA 10, and I was like, alright.

I'm glad that people are 2021 sale on that? Probably was. That's that that that card screams 2021 sale. Dick Butkus was the highest I could find, 47 k for his 1966 Philadelphia.

Because then that's another thing. Once you get into vintage, a high grade vintage card is gonna be up there. Lawrence Taylor's highest sale was 36 k. Junior Seo had a green PMG that sold for 7 k.

Derrick Thomas had a 10 k gold kaboom sale. So Derrick Thomas higher than Ray Lewis and those guys, because he had a gold kaboom. But, my personal goal in all of this as a defensive player is still Ed Reed.

I mean, he was just, like, my favorite player to watch as a kid. And then from a card Law dead? Yeah. Law dead. And then from a card collecting standpoint, he's in o two finest.

Like, that's his rookie year, so he has a rookie o two x factor, which it we actually are gonna talk about that card later, but, and then he's all the way through twenty twelve prism.

So, like, Ed Reed is kinda but he's not in enough sets. That was that's the one knock. Like, he's not in all the finest sets in the early two thousands.

Then in, like, 2010 top like, he's in, like, Houston Texans gear, I think. Or, no, he 2010, he's in Ravens, but he ends up in, like, has, like, a Texans card out there, I think.

So Mhmm. Yeah. Ed Reed, is the man. And then one other note I put down because looking at Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald put together a perfect pro football reference page or just what I love.

Like, ten seasons, tons of bold. We've talked about that, but it got me thinking. A career like that is when there's it's like a perfect album almost.

Like, Kanye West Yeezus, in my estimation, is a perfect album. 10 songs. Big Yeezus guy. Love Yeezus. Okay. Wonderful album. It's a treat to listen to. Or it was when I was, you know, in my early mid twenties living in Chicago.

That that album dropped in a specific time and place in our lives where life was way more carefree. The nights were longer. Yeah. Less stress, less responsibility.

So, like, those that era of albums definitely resonates with me, whatever came out that I love during that time. And, say what you want about Kanye West, and I'm have not been a fan of his for a while, but I loved his music in that era.

And just but Yeezus' 10 songs, I loved, like, just the compactness of that album where I was like, oh, start to finish, this is a cohesive thing that I'm listening to.

There's no, like, skips in here. There's no fall off. And that's what Aaron Donald's pro football reference page looks like. It's just 10 banger seasons, in a row.

So shout out Aaron Donald. Dude, alright. Anyone who has a lot of time on their hands should do an edit with Aaron Donald and his football cards with your favorite track off of Jesus and just we'll we'll we'll publish it.

We promise. Yeah. What? It's such a good album. Great tour too.

I mean, because, yeah, because then Kanye start like, Life of Pablo, there's, like, too many songs, and, like, there are a bunch of skips on there, and it's like, no. I like it when it's just cut the fat off, give people the hits.

Dude, I I I you know, a tour has an impact when I can visually remember what it looked like. I remember the promotion, and I never saw it, but I I remember seeing videos about it and can visualize it as we're talking about it. Yeah.

Kendrick Lamar opened too. I was like, he was yeah. Good kid, Matt. See, he had just come out. Great great era. Yeah. Three now. I like that. We did it. What do we have? What's in store next? Well, now we're punting to the NFL check-in.

Why don't you, Want me to start? Yeah. Why don't you start start us off on a high note? Okay. The Bears beat the Cleveland Browns 31 to three at, that felt good after that Packers stinker or it wasn't even a stinker.

The Bears were in it till the end. Terrible interception by Caleb at the end, but, came back, bounced back, went home, and just took care of business.

You beat a bad team at home the way they should, even though Browns had a nice defense. The Browns did beat the Packers earlier in the year. People forget. So just to see the Bears move the ball with ease against the Browns was nice.

And, yeah, like I said, took care of business and go beat the Packers at home Saturday night. That becomes now one of the biggest games I'll have watched in recent memory.

If you beat the Packers, they go up a game and a half on the division with two to go, would be a huge win towards, like, not only the playoffs, but then, like, proving that they belong in the top of the NFC.

Because, like, the next three games for the Bears are home versus the Packers, then they go to San Francisco, and then they're home versus the Lions.

And that's just like a gauntlet of head coaches. Some of the best coaches in the league with Campbell, Shanahan, and Matt Le Flore.

So how do the Bears stack up? How does Ben Johnson stack up? If they can kinda go two and one over these last three games, they should definitely make the playoffs, and then we'll also kinda feel like they deserve to be.

Like, those are three of the best teams in the NFC. So, yeah, why not us? That's what I'm starting to think.

It's like, why not? Like, beat the Packers at home, and you're kinda in the driver's seat for the division, and then get a host of potentially host a game at Soldier Field in the playoffs if you make it. Like, who knows?

Get hot at the right time. I trust Ben Johnson. I trust Ben Johnson my entire life. So he changed my life. I owe everything to Ben Johnson. Would you let Ben would you let Ben Johnson babysit when you were out, for some dinner?

Yeah. For for a week. I mean, he he could like, I'd ship yeah. Whatever. Ben Ben, I trust I'd probably come back and my house would be more efficient.

He'd probably have, like, tinkered with my furnace, like, currently having a little, issue with our nest and, like, the sensor, and the house is getting too hot when it shouldn't.

It's like, I don't know what to do here. I don't know I don't know these things.

I'm sure Ben Johnson could come in and clean this mess up right away. Squeaky floorboards, gone. Ben Johnson, he fixed this whole house. And then the haters and doubters are still clamoring about Caleb Williams' completion percentage.

They don't think Caleb Williams is good and all these things. So I have a quick blind resume for you, then I'm just gonna throw some numbers at you.

Caleb Williams has now played 31 games in his career. He's thrown for 6,700 yards, 60% completion, 41 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. There's another quarterback in their first 32 games, had 8,200 yards.

So 1,300 more yards, 1,400 more yards, a lot more yards, 57% completion, lower completions percentage, 46 touchdowns, so four five more touchdowns, 27 interceptions, 15 more interceptions.

Do you know who that second quarterback is? Hall of famer. Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, 57% completion his first two years. I don't remember hearing negative completion percentage slandered Andrew Luck.

I just remember he was the next great one because he threw for so many yards. So yeah. Fourth quarter comeback, setting up in his rookie year. Yeah. Caleb has five this year. This just there's just there's there's parallels.

Said about peep people are gonna you're he could be the perfect quarterback, and people are gonna complain about it. It's just Yeah. It it is it is what it is. But yeah. And he's Caleb only 12 picks in his first 1,000 NFL attempts.

That's the lowest in NFL history. He's just he takes care of the ball. He and he guess what? He also leads the league in throwaways. You know what that leads to? Lower completion percentage.

Because if if the play is not there, he just, like, gets rid of it. He's not making negative plays. I can remember vividly so many, like, horrific Justin Fields fumbles where it's just like or just, like, back breaking interceptions.

Caleb has thrown a couple bad interceptions of the 12, but I don't know. I love my quarterback. I love this team. I can't believe they're ten four. Vibes are high. Just beat the Packers on Saturday.

It's all you gotta do. Beat the Packers at home. Defend your home field. Split with them in your that last last week doesn't matter if you just go home and win. That's why they play two games. So You're in a good spot.

It's a good place to be. I wanna I remember this. I thought I was gonna forget. But good opportunity to read a review of how Oh, yes. Coming or how we're doing on the podcast. So this was put two months ago, from the croup.

So thank you, the croup, for listening to the Football Card Podcast. The croup says, it's not my podcast, so can do what you want as a publisher. But some shows are just way too focused on cults.

Football card podcast is like a bear's cult show that gets tiresome. And, really, the explicit language is not needed. Immaturity, maybe. So What? Doing, Joe? I feel like we I I feel like we keep it pretty PG.

I thought so. I thought so. Wait. We could get way worse. We could get way worse. Matter of fact, Croup, fuck you. Sorry. Apologies, crew, for being a loyal listener and leaving a review, but, you know, come on.

We'll ballpark pot. Just guys being dudes. Oh, boy. Since people don't like me talking about my team on my podcast, I'm gonna keep it brief and just say, oh, man.

It's been so painful just to be a Colts fan. It's been so painful. All of it has been so painful, and they have a 98% chance to make the playoffs still.

They've got to win their last three games, which is Monday night football at home against the forty niners. You've got, you're going, to Houston, and then you've got Jacksonville at home.

So it's just it's just my hopes aren't high. I am a a groupie groupie. Blake groupie drilling a 60 yard field goal right through the uprights with forty seven seconds left.

Longest field goal in Colts history. And then just letting forty seven seconds with no time. I was just letting the Seahawks kick a field goal. It's it was so of course, this is the way it ends. So, I thought Rivers was fine.

Like, he he definitely didn't do anything to compromise what we were doing. And I honestly, like, we're I was texting during the game with friends. I was like, we like, you couldn't ask for a better performance.

But at the end of it, when you don't have Buckter, you don't have Sauce Gardner, you don't have Tavarious Ward, like, three of your best defensive players. That's when it shows up, like, right at the end. So, yeah, it sucks.

Football has been so painful, the last month or so, but you get over it by talking about football cards, and that's what I'm gonna try to do here the rest of the way. And you're happy, the croup, be happy because I'm not in a good spot.

And when I'm not in a good spot, I wanna talk about my team and their performance less. So maybe we'll just turn this into a Chicago Bears podcast, and, John can run the show.

And I'm sure all the Packers fans and everyone will enjoy that too. But I'm gonna say this. Like, part of this show is talking about what we love, and naturally, that's gonna be a part of the show.

So, you got a team? What's your team? Maybe we'll give your team some coverage, next week. I feel like we keep the team talk pretty tight too. Yeah. It's generally, like, just a couple minutes of talking about football.

And, yeah, it's like just swap out bears for your team if they're doing well. And it's Yeah. The same sentiment. We're happy over here, and we're just talking about winning next week.

And if you're sad, you go to the Coke filing cabinet and you just pull out like, here's what I'll say for the Colts. It can all change so fast. We've seen that every year. Like, everything can change on a dime.

Colts can easily figure something out and next year come back and be a playoff team. And, conversely, Bears, I'm riding high. I'm just waiting for that, what, the other shoe to drop? Is that what they say?

That's right. Yeah. They could just it's like the Washington Commanders last year. It was like, oh, they made it to the NFC championship. They are clearly going to a Super Bowl next, and then terrible things happen.

So it it's not forever. I did have to go look back, and the croup's gonna hate this because this is more bears and colts stock. But I was like, like, yeah. The Colts have gone through it. I know the Bears have gone through it too.

I don't wanna I don't wanna talk about it. The Colts and Bears both made the playoffs in 2018. That was the double doink year, and that was, 2018. Colts lost to the Chiefs. Both teams missed the playoffs in 2019.

Both teams made the playoffs the wild card in 2020 and lost the first round. And then since then, both teams have missed the playoffs four straight years. So we've kind of been on a similar little trajectory. So, It's it's sucked.

Not happy. Let's talk about football cards. Yeah. Let's get into some cards. Alright. Shout out card ladder for sponsoring the market watch segment. John Yes. What are we talking about here? Well, I was just doing a little digging.

I totally missed this. But a Philip Rivers twenty twelve prism gold sold for a raw copy sold for a $115, binned on eBay. Steal of the year. This this is sick, though. This kinda like, I saw it, and I'm like, I don't is this real?

Did it get canceled? I hope it didn't get canceled. I hope it I hope it went through, because the hobby needs moments like this. Like, not everything can like, you need the the random gifts.

You need the dollar bin fines. I hope this ended up with, someone who really wants the card and that that they got it for a bargain and, it won't get turned around and flipped, or or maybe it will.

Who knows? Who cares? But, yeah, I was just blown away when I saw that this was listed for a $115 by it now, and someone got an extremely good deal on this card.

So I, I love this too. And this and this has set me saying I love this, and I bought a raw copy of this same card. Not this card, but I bought a copy of Phil Rivers twenty twelve gold prism this year for $2,500.

So I spent $2,500. This buyer spent a 115. Go, hobby. Go. Hey. I'll give you I'll give you $300 for yours. That's three x comps. Like, I'm paying better than anyone else. I I think it can go higher. I'm I'm holding out hope.

But also context is black finite Prism sold, for $1,500 in January. So what a year for the Prism brand. It was '25. It was '20 Or '25. Oh, yeah. That's right. It was 25. I spent the same amount on the gold that that the black sold for.

But I got a DM about a few DMs about this sale, and I was like, this can't be real. And, like, someone was like and apologies for if you were the individual, I'd call you out, but I can't remember everyone who there was a couple of you.

But I the the a seller was just listing all of their Philip Rivers collection. And there was a ton like, this is the cream of the crop of it, but there's a there was a lot of good stuff listed. And it was just, like, arbitrary numbers.

It was, like, $50, a $100, $200. Just like every like, no looking of comps. It was like, yeah. This is what I feel this card is worth type of a thing, which is, you know, you get these moments where you can smash Ben on this.

So it'll be I in these scenarios, I would imagine that the seller gets a bunch of messages from people that will be like, oh, also, I'll pay three x that, you know, and it might get canceled.

So I hope it's an early bird gets the worm scenario because these these moments are what's fun, and it's why we get on eBay and constantly look at safe searches for stuff like this to pop up.

What are your thoughts on you see a card that you really want sold for a ridiculously low amount.

Do you message the seller and offer? Are you willing to do that? Is that should people do that? What are your I people can do what they want.

I I I don't I would not want that to happen to me, so I don't do that to other people. That's that's my mentality. That's how I feel. I I've reached out to sellers before to express, like, oh, that is the type of card that I love.

Like, do you have anything else? I always go into, like, trying to find another deal that, but, yeah, trying to snake it away, I've thought about it. But to your point, I always just think I would be so pissed if that happened to me.

So I try and if you miss it, you miss it. You gotta live. I think this, based on the market conditions and everything else going on, is the best purchase I've seen all year, and I don't even think it's close.

This is a remarkable win. I hope the person who smashed Ben first gets this card because it is a remarkable win. That's a good looking copy too. Yeah. Center looks nice.

That's Yeah. Congrats to the buyer. If you got it, let us know. Let let us know. Alright. The next card. I was stunned by this price, and this is the 24 Puka Naku black shimmer one of one sold for 25 k via best offer, which no.

Puka is amazing. Great player, but I'm thinking, like, 25 k from a maybe maybe it's finite, but I was just Yeah, man.

Stunned by that that price. And black shimmers look cool, but it's very apparent that they're not, like, the top of the mountain when it comes to the Prism brand. But, yeah, the react I was just, like, stunned by it.

What is your reaction? Yeah. I I did not see the price when you had this listed. I just thought it would be a a normal price. But didn't a Jackson Smith sell for, some sort of Yeah. He did too. It's a black shimmer, wasn't it?

Yeah. I thought so. It's I'm not seeing it on card ladder. But I swear it was, like, $40,000 that I saw somewhere that they're regardless, Puka for 25 k for shimmer is that's a lot of money for his second best black car.

Like, I don't even know where where the hierarchy goes after finite because what else is it?

Stars? Is black stars the other black stars? I I would put in the 23 since there's no nebula, I would I would put the I would put the shimmer behind the finite, and the stars third would be my ranking.

Now you go to 24, the nebulas is is is in the two spot for me. Yeah. That I mean, yeah.

Puka is great, but that's just when we're talking about those defensive player sales, it's like you could have any of those defenders, like, best cards. A Drake May black shimmer rookie just sold for 26,000 in September.

So The the interesting thing to note too is this was an auction. So it's like I somebody really wanted this card and that was willing to pay, and the the owner of the card had control over what they got.

So, yeah, sometimes it comes down to, like, doesn't isn't, you know what? This now this has my head spinning. Isn't isn't Dana White, Rams guy? Yes. He Yeah. That this could be a Dana White. He coached Puka.

There there was a crossover of, like, Puka, Kids playing or something. He's played on the same team, and so, like, Puka grew up, like, in the White household. Yeah. But I wonder if Dana White is privy to, like, these kinds of cards.

Or if if sorry. I guess if someone's telling him, but I feel like he's a more, I don't know, gold kaboom guy. No. I don't say that to mean disrespect, but I feel like to like, this isn't, like, known as Pookas.

I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I guess it's like, you have to, like, gotta know ball a little more to get to this card, I think, than is just, like, more forward public facing cards, maybe. Mhmm.

Which or but more power to him. If if he's out there digging and, like, knows about this card and made that purchase, like, hell, yeah. Crazy sale. Alright. We move over to a card you alluded to earlier. The o two finest Ed Reed Edward.

Not just Ed. Reed. I love that. X factor out of 20 PSA nine. Sold via auction for $2,570. You know, being a defensive back, you don't have and especially in this era o two, you don't have too many, like, cool rookie cards.

This is certainly one of them. Although, he's wearing sweatpants, I think you gotta put your guard down a little bit, But you've got, one of the all time best defenders in a beloved finest set in a parallel that people love.

It's just it's checking all the boxes. And when I saw the the sale price, I was like, that seems very, very reasonable based on all things considered.

Yeah. No. This is an awesome card. I've I would want one one day. I used to own the Julius Peppers, and I missed that card, but the Jay Cutler came calling. I love o two finest x fractors. That's well documented.

To me, this is maybe Ed Reed's best rookie card. I mean, o two didn't have any superfractors. There is a masterpiece, I believe. I think there's a FLIR Showcase masterpiece, but they they don't look great that year.

They're a very uninspired release. Because when doing research around the Julius Peppers card, like, I was like, I think this has a case as being one of his top cards as being a very low serial number in a major set.

So awesome card. Yeah. Awesome awesome purple card. Shout out Chris. See ice cards. He, tried to submit this card when we did a blue car color call out and, just it's purple.

It's purple. Team color match. Team color match. We moved to a player who I know you're not necessarily fond of based on the rivalry, but it's a big sale.

You've got the twenty twenty contenders cracked ice, Jordan Love, rookie auto, BGS95, selling for $10,500, which makes this the highest selling copy of this, card in a let's see.

Yeah. The highest selling BGS, copy on the market, which people are buying into Jordan Love right now.

And at this scale, it's like it felt like earlier in the year, there was less of that going on, and it's interesting how quickly things can shift.

Yeah. I, unfortunately, think Jordan Love is very good. I didn't wanna believe in him for a long time because I hate the fact that the Packers went from Favre to Rodgers to Love.

And that's not normal, and that's not fair. In my estimation, I remember the Colts going from manning to luck and being like, you guys don't understand the plight of, the quarterback carousel. And now the now Colts So I I get it, Pat.

Now Colts fans get it. I hope one day the Packers fans can experience that because it's, you got everyone's gotta go through it. You gotta go through the the hoping the rookie's good and trying to convince yourself he's good.

I guess maybe love, they went through that a little bit. But Your your your Scott Tolzine and Matt Flynn moments don't count. Yeah. No. Like, oh, two games of a backup quarterback, three games of a backup quarterback.

No. I'm talking on, like, mock drafts in October, combine coming through, looking at a box score that's terrible, but taking three plays and being like, oh, they can just do five of these plays next game.

Just the, the terribleness that comes with watching a team trying to find a franchise quarterback.

And to go three in a row is amazing. But, yeah, Love is a very good quarterback. Matt LaFleur is a good coach. That's why like, even Micah Parsons being out, it to me, it's not just, oh, the Bears should easily beat the Packers.

The Packers were really good last year without Micah Parsons because they have Jordan Love and a capable offense. So still very worried about Saturday. And, yeah, Jordan Love, good quarterback.

This is sick. I love a cracked ice. I do like his signature, the little Jay Hart. I do think that's it's better than, like, a script. Wiggle? Yeah. I can tell what's going on. Like, at least that's a recognizable signature.

So here I am saying nice things about Jordan Love. That's the I don't know what's the What am I listening to right now? Yeah. See, croup. We can talk about other teams. How about another Ravens defender?

We talked about Ray Lewis earlier. His 2012 gold prism sold in a b g s nine five for $7,500 on fanatics this week, which is a big sale. But, again, I'm left with it feel it feels like this this this is a good deal.

I know it's crazy, but I view I view Ray Lewis very highly. He's done everything. This is one of the best, if not the best defender, whatever your list is, in the debut set, and not the black finite, but the gold.

There's 10 copies. It's a sick looking card too. The way he's framed up just looks like he just, you know, got done making a big hit, a solid card. $7,500. Awesome card. Awesome photo.

Right? Nailed the photo. Seven time first team all pro for Ray Lewis. A lot. 12 time pro bowler, hall of famer, two Super Bowl champions, championships, maybe a couple homicides, but all that's or doesn't matter in this photo.

He's a he's a murderer on the field. That's what he is. He's out there. He's killing it on the field. Awesome. That's that's a sick card.

And, yeah, like, $7,500 is a lot of dollars for a sports card, but it's also kinda, like, cool to know that that's somewhat attainable, like, for I'd say a lot of collectors to, like, if you were a diehard Ravens fan, Ray Lewis collector Yeah.

That's right. Have have been in this hobby a few years, have some equity in your cards, like, this is something that you could figure out a way to get, very, very cool card.

I put myself in the Ravens fan even though I don't like to, but I'm go I did for this.

Like, put myself in their shoes. This, like, this is a card that I would love to have even just as a football fan. I would just love to own a copy. Too much going on to be able to be, like, prioritize that at this point in my life.

But I I put myself in the shoes of a Ravens fan and a collector and thought to like, this is the best player in your franchise history. This is the first year.

This is a premium parallel. Like, all of these boxes check, and I look at $7,500, and I'd be like, dude, I would have given up three cards, four cards in my five cards, whatever it was in my collection for this card.

Like, that to me, the access, if that is your passion, if Ray Lewis, the raven, if that is your passion, like, to me, it it the the bar is still very, very low in order to not just go out of pocket and spend $7,500 because it's a lot of money, but, like, to make some moves in order to make this a reality.

It doesn't seem like it's jumped the shark yet. Yeah. For a for a staple piece of a collection. Like, that's that's worth it.

Alright. The last card, it we'll talk we're talking, man. We haven't talked about Manning in a while, but, Manning said Ray Lewis was the best, player he's ever played again, so we'll go from one to the other.

His '98 Skybox Thunder Super Rave and a BGS nine five sold for $7,500. So we got back to back $7,500 sales. And I thought it's like, this is these are out of 25.

This is not the Rave. This is the Thunder Rave. But you've got the Manning and Evolz. Or excuse me, Super Rave. Yeah. Manning and Evals. But I always enjoy the the way that the the aesthetic of the nameplate on these cards is so sick.

And, yeah, it just I look at the last sale of this card. There was a sale raw copy that sold for $3 in October. There was a nine five that sold for 6,600 in October.

Another raw copy sold for $3,500. So this is, like, this sale is trending on the upward trajectory. But, again, you've got rookie, you've got, you know, 25 copies, you got a parallel that, you know, nineties collectors especially love.

It just it doesn't seem completely outrageous to me. No. Not at all. And, like, this this is a sick card. It's very nineties, like you said. Even him being in a Tennessee jersey doesn't really I don't know.

It'd be cooler in a Colts jersey, but you get the Colts logo. It's the Colts logo at the bottom. Yeah. And yeah. The it's like the gem master pattern in the name, almost. Yep.

It looks looks very cool. I've never gotten into these sets again. This is one of those, like, late ninety sets that the Bears have no good players in, so I've stayed away. But I've admired these from afar. Very cool cards. That is it.

A lot of football cards are selling. And I'll also say this final statement here. I go through the sales data in card ladder, multiple platforms every week, and you always have to do several scrolls to get to the first football card.

You've got the soccer, the the basketball. It's and it always just makes me feel good. I'm like, man, this makes me feel good that football cards still, when you're looking at the top end of the market, still feel underappreciated.

Obviously, there are situations like Brady Superfractor where that's a preposterous for me to say, but I'm just generally saying football cards and what they're selling for typically are, you know, percentage points lower than a lot of other categories.

Yep. And speaking of football sales, collecting updates, what are the current collecting projects that you're focusing your resources on?

Any any pickups lately, Brett? No new football cards. Yeah. It is they just I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm no need to be aggressive after kinda my biggest sale of the year, so I'm just been very I've been busy.

I haven't really kinda got down in the weeds as much as typical. So I'm just trying to enjoy what I have right now. What about you? I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately, I'm spending more money on gifts for my family instead of cards.

But I had a couple of pickups, like, a couple weeks ago that I'm still waiting to get in between authentication and then just the post service being so delayed this time of year.

Should be getting a couple cards actually in the mail today that I'm excited to have in hand. But, yeah, for the most part, not really buying anything.

Yeah. Kinda waiting. But I will say, I think eBay saved searches are, like, back. My saved search experience has seems to be, back to normal. I'm seeing lots of lots of cards, lots of lots of blue dots on searches I forgot about.

I love it when a safe search that I put in, like, years ago finally activates for the first time ever, and you get to hopefully see a card that you've been hunting for a long time. So yeah. No no nothing major, though, on that front.

I, was thinking about this as you're talking about Christmas presents, and I on with for my, like, cousins and nephews and all this stuff, like, I decided because they're into cards, bought a bunch of blaster boxes on Amazon and had, you know, you you know how you, like, just buy all these Christmas presents and, like, it's like they show up and you just, like, kinda stash them away.

Kinda just was doing that. And I came back from a walk, and I looked on my front lawn, and there was a bubble wrap. And I was like, when does this deliver? And it was, like, two nights ago.

And I was, like, looking at the scanning and everything and realized that I got a delivery at 06:50, which was like a blind spot because I'm usually, like, doing kid stuff, and I'm sitting by my door, so I see everything all day except for, like, after hours.

Dude, someone just decided to gank my, blaster boxes and run off.

Like, the one thing that got stolen was cards. And I was just like, of course, it was cards. It was like there was somebody just, like, with a laser focus knowing that that was cards and just ripped it off. So it pissed me off so much.

I was, like, just violated. It was cards. I felt furious. And then I just ordered the entire order again on top of it. So it was like salt in the wounds. It sucked. Did you get refunded for that first order, though?

No refunds. You said through Amazon? Yeah. Can you? Amazon's pretty good at if you are like, this showed up empty, they'll just send you again, like, the same order for free or, like, refund you.

We've done like, that happened the other day for and it's like, I don't know why someone would steal this, but we had, like, just a hanger for, like, over a door to hang our wreath on.

Like, on our daughter's room, we were, like, hanging a Christmas wreath. And so it's just literally a plastic hook, and it's like I go out and pick up the package and it's empty. I'm like, did someone steal a, like, $8 plastic Probably.

They're What are we doing here? Every there are there are the ports pirates are lingering in the 100 holiday season. But, yeah, just went on Amazon and said, like, package showed up empty, and they just were like, alright.

Here's another one. So I don't know if cards if that's different because they're Right. It was third third party screwed me. Yeah. And and just cards, I feel like there's there's scammers afoot. So who knows?

Yeah. I if people found out that they could just say that to Amazon, they'd have an unlimited card loop. I'm sure there are people out there that That that that's that's where I eventually got to as I was going through the process.

Yeah. The the tar the the guys hoarding all the cards at Target and bringing their scales to Target would take advantage of that.

So I'm sure Amazon nips that in the bud. But Yep. Alright. Episode 26, Football Card Pod. Card callout. Last week, we asked to see trios.

That was great. There were some awesome trios, awesome creativity. I tried to keep up with bonus points, but I'll be honest, it was hard on my brain to come up with original funny bonus points for each card, but that will continue.

Keep building those parlays. We're actually gonna maybe workshop this card call out right now because I put down top four football card pickups of the year. Is it too soon to do a year recap?

And then I was trying to think of something that's not like, people are gonna do their Christmas trees or their top 10 pickups, but, like, what is something that we could do here at the Football Card Pod that, is a little different?

So I was I was coming down to four because you can stack four in a nice way that's pleasing for the taking a picture and posting. But what do you think, Brett?

So it's funny you mentioned this as I'm, like, trying to get ahead of, baby on the way. I've been banking episodes, and I did an episode on my top five that'll, not highest selling cards of all time with a point and a smile.

My top five pickups, that'll come out, I think it's, New Year's Eve. That'll be that'll drop, which is a a Wednesday. But I think this is a great idea. I would love to see people's cards.

Four sounds good. Yeah. This is a good one. I I this is a fun time of the year. Just, like, see what reflect back. And I had fun going through that process myself of, like, identifying which are which is my set of cards.

And I was like I look back on it. I was like, man, I'm I'm fired up about this year I had because there were plenty of cards that in previous years I felt like would have made my list that didn't this year.

So I'd love to see kinda how others are doing. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Four favorite football cards.

So not, like, the most valuable, just, like, what are four that stand out to you? Bonus points for, I don't know, creativity, connections, whatever. If we're men and we're men of the people over here at the Football Card Pod.

If you ask for bonus points in your little post, I will we'll review and possibly award. But, yeah, I really appreciate everyone who engages and posts on socials.

It is a lot of fun to see all these cards and to know that people are listening. So thank you again for listening to the Football Card pod. Thanks, everybody. Alright. See you.