Hello, and welcome to the Football Card Podcast. You made it. It's Friday, and this is the fastest growing podcast in the world that is centered on football cards and most importantly football cards.

I'm your host, John, AKA Pat Nicholson. And with me as always is Brett mister stacking slabs himself. Brett, how you doing?

I am still thinking about this third and 18 play from the Colts Chargers game this week where there was a cover three and Alec Pierce decided to go inside and then move quickly outside and Danny Dimes just dropped the ball right into the bread basket, and it was obviously a first down.

It's like there's when your team is the first in everything offensively, there's all of these stats and things that plays that get pushed through the highlight machine, and it's a lot of fun to consume.

And I'm just like, that is a play I'm not sure is getting enough credit. So I'm thinking about it, I'm absorbing it, and, it's I've watched it a million times.

And it's like, if your team can convert a third and 18 play like that with the type of defense that's trying to defend it, I feel like that's a good signal that you're gonna win some football games.

And that was validated once again this weekend. So, again, I try not to get ahead of it too much. And I don't wanna beat everyone's over the head, but I'm a Colts fan.

This is what I live for. So I'm doing freaking great. And, John, who would have thought who would have thought we'd continue to get up here and talk about our teams in these the season, and we'd both be really happy.

I know. I would I was ready to cancel the show after week two, if I'm being honest, but we survived.

We made it through. On that highlight that you're watching, because, I mean, there's nothing better than watching the highlights over and over all week.

What's what do you think your most watched Colts highlight is from the season? Or or a play that stands out that Yeah.

Probably dude, I'm like I feel like I'm, like, talking about genres of movies now. Like, I'm I'm really into the Tyler Warren content. It's like seeing your new guy rumble in space and just, like, wreck people.

It's, he you know, when you got your guys on your team, they're all your guys. But when you got your guys and, like, Tyler Warren, obviously, is becoming one of those for me.

It's like, I don't I don't bet on him. I don't have him in fantasy. I have no none of his cards, but, like, when he catches the ball, it's just, like, there's all of this excitement.

So seeing him continually make big plays and get in the end zone, and it's his rookie year. That that's fun content. And, you know, Jonathan Taylor has a million runs already this year. A lot of that content is good.

And not a little evasive Danny Dimes content here and there to make a play. But you asked what's my favorite. And all those are great, but my favorite is Quentin Nelson just absolutely destroying everybody he goes against.

It's it's it's like the smart content and the smart creators are focusing on that bad dude, and you give me some Quentin Nelson pancakes, and technique, I'm I'm all in.

I like the comparison to, like, watching your sports team's highlights, like watching films of, like yeah.

I like Tyler Warren highlights, but I like his early work the best. The week two week two second quarter highlights is kind of, you know, what I'm a fan of.

Like, yes. Everyone knows the Jonathan Taylor spin run, but, you know, the four yard gain that he had when it should have been a five yard loss in week one, good stuff.

Episode well, this none of this would be possible without our wonderful sponsors. So shall we take a minute and just, shout them out? Of course.

Card Ladder, we love you. We appreciate what you do, and the data, and all of that you're producing on the content side. We're glad that you're here. By the way, I'm gonna say this in real time so we hold ourselves accountable.

Josh and Chris, each of those pals will be and I don't John, this might be breaking news to you, but we're just sharing it in public. Each of these guys will be on the pot on the football card podcast individually.

Do you have we not had this conversation? We haven't. Let's go. I keep forgetting week over week because I'm, like, doing content with them on other stuff, and I'm, like, they're both involved in this at at the one episode each.

So, well, you and I need a game plan before this is over with. We need to get Chris and Josh. So we'll have a three man booth here for a couple episodes.

So, looking forward to that taking place. And then, obviously, Haystack, is awesome. I've gotten a lot of just great feedback just in terms of Haystack, and it's fun to see your partners get promoted by other people.

I've been noticing, that as well. Breaker Connect product free for users who wanna participate in breaks with Haystack's partners receive same day images of their hits and ability to list, grade, and share cards immediately after break.

Haystack's been sponsoring our new releases segment. We've got a new release to talk about. So, yeah, shout out our partners.

You rule. Yeah. Every time we talk about Haystack, and it makes me wanna break something. We gotta get the football card pod break. Maybe at the end of season two, we do a season two finale through some sort of break for the audience.

That would be fun. Because we have a question in here later that asks about hypothetical wax ripping. And as I was perusing eBay and card lighter to formulate my answer, I just was getting the itch. Like, let's I wanna open some cards.

That was a fun exercise. I had the same, feeling and perhaps the question asker wants to sponsor that segment. So Oh. We'll get there. Alright. Episode 18 though, season two, episode six. Halfway through season two.

We are just who would have thought that when this was born in the the doldrums of the off season, that one day we would be in what is this? Week eight of the NFL season? Week seven? Week eight? We're going into week eight?

I don't want it to end. The fact that we're almost halfway, that sounds I don't like that. But episode 18. Lot of lot of eighteens out there. I have a I know who you wanna talk about, and very worthy candidate.

I'll run through some others though. So the hall of fame eighteens, Charlie Joyner, Peyton Manning, Emmett Thomas, Len Dawson. Though I looked it up, Len Dawson was mainly 16, which yeah.

I have my own, ideas of how the hall of fame website should order, like, when you get to be qualified as an 18 over 16 if you barely ever wore that number, but that's for another pod.

Wilbur, Pete Henry, Walt Kissling, and then Randy Moss. Randy Moss, again, similar thing. Head 18 sometimes, but not all the time. I'd still I'd say Randy should be an 84.

What you know? Like, feels like it should be. And, but one thing I one person I wanted to shout out because I feel like I kinda sometimes breeze through these hall of famers, and maybe this, fits in with a little vintage football talk.

But I was thinking this could be a new segment where it's like, say something nice about an old guy, and that would be Charlie Joyner, who's on this list.

He's a hall of famer. I was looking up some Charlie Joyner stats. Was a receiver for the chargers, primarily eleven years.

But the main thing that caught my eye is upon retirement, he retire Charlie Joyner retired with the most career receptions, receiving yards, and games played of any wide receiver in NFL history, which was pretty like, I just would not have thought that at one point, Charlie Joyner was the NFL's all time leading receptions leader.

He retired with 750 receptions. Do you know where he is now on the list of all time I, well receptions? Oh, very far down in comparison.

That's Yeah. That's who where does he sit? He's tied for forty eighth with Michael Irving. But, yeah, just goes to show how that passing game has because, I mean, he was playing in the late seventies, eighties, like, I don't know.

Just since retiring, in '86 for then, like, 50 or 48 other players to pass him is kinda crazy. But I think I've got a Charlie Joiner, 72 Topps Here we go. And look look at that look with that jersey.

I mean, that is, that is pretty sweet, man. A little vintage football talk. That's a like, get back to the basics sometimes with cards. I mean, look at this. Like, go run this same, same format back.

I'd buy like, if there was a gold out of 10 or one on one from this, that would be sick. Dude, can can that's what I'm like. You and I are tracking on the same wavelength where I was just like, this is a rookie card.

Like, how cool would it be if, like, it just said Colts. And it was just with his helmet off, it was just Tyler Warren, like, with a football just, like, looking at the camera.

It's like, give me that card. I'm all for that. It's almost like it almost has, like, this, like, Topps heritage look to it. Mhmm. It's super cool. Yeah. Make vintage great again. Let's do it. Yeah.

Alright. So, yeah, little vintage football talk. Say something nice about, old player, old guy. Who who came to your mind when you hear the number 18? Well, there was a, coach who now works at Barstool Sports by the name of Jon Gruden.

And on a Monday night football telecast while he was, playing, I believe, if it was the Miami Dolphins, Jon Gruden decided to call my number 18, which is Peyton Manning. He played for the Colts and he played for the Broncos too.

But he decided during the telecast after a touchdown to coin the nickname, the sheriff. And he said, I call him the sheriff because when he comes to your town, he lays down the law.

Mhmm. And boy, did this is that just a fitting nickname? In preparation for this episode, it's hard for me to really think about Manning in terms of memories, moments, and all everything in between because there were so many.

But I think about now, several years later, how fortunate and lucky I was to be in the RCA Dome, be in Lucas Oil Stadium for almost every one of Manning's games, going to the games, watching Manning, and you took it for granted.

You took the the scoring just the way he went about his business. For me, I took it for granted. And then it was an easy bridge with luck because you're like, oh, wow.

This guy is different, but he's very, very good just like him. Highly intelligent, can make plays. And then when luck suddenly retired and there was that gap, it was just like, oh, man.

I wasn't really enjoying this like I should have been. And those twelve and four seasons, which would become so routine, now it's like, what what do you need for me to do in order for that to happen again?

So great players, really change the way you think about the game and what I've learned, especially as a Peyton Manning fan.

Peyton Manning normalized, what he did and how he went out about his business when what he was doing wasn't normal at all. It's not normal to spend all that time studying film.

It's not normal to know absolutely everything about each player you're playing against. It's not normal to go to the line of scrimmage and be able to read what you're seeing and call the best audible all the time.

It's not normal to break records. It's not nothing that Peyton Manning ever did was normal, but it felt so normal because he made it look so easy.

And I know there's a lot of people out there that enjoy Manning, collect Manning. I just feel fortunate as a football fan that, I got to cheer for him in my city, the city that I love.

And, for to to actually have him be the one to hold up the trophy and make me understand what it feels like to win a Super Bowl is pretty damn cool.

So, yeah. Special episode, Peyton Manning rocks. And, yeah, easy selection easiest selection for me this week in terms of who I wanted to talk about. I feel like everyone kinda took Manning for granted in that era.

Like, the more I feel like we get away from it like, at the time when players like Philip Rivers or Eli or Roethlisberger were kinda like second tier guys kinda like falling, you know, because Brady and Peyton Rogers were are so good.

And now that we're, like, more removed from that era and seeing more and more draft class busts, like, I feel like just puts in perspective how hard it is to be a good quarterback in the NFL.

Like, a Philip Rivers is so rare. A Stafford is so rare. Seeing it with Flaco the other week. Like, I don't know.

Just being a good quarterback is so hard in the NFL, and it feels like at that during that Manning Manning's career, there were so many good quarterbacks. But then in comparison to Brady and Manning that they kinda got overshadowed.

But just in general, there was such a good crop of quarterbacks, at one point in the NFL, and we're now entering a new phase where, yeah, there are some top quarterbacks, but it just feels different than that era.

It it does, and it makes yeah. Well, how many I you were talking. I was like, how many teams would do whatever it takes if he looks like in his prime to secure Philip Rivers for as their quarterback right now?

Like, most teams who don't there are a lot of teams who don't have a quarterback. Everyone thought they might have a quarterback, but that gets exposed as, you play.

So that era is so fun. There you've got, you know, Brees, Roethlisberger. Breeze too. Yeah. I forgot Breeze. Yeah. Breeze. You know, Rivers, Manning, Braid.

I mean, and the the list goes on and on. So that that is a sneaky era for a great, quarterback production. But, again, it seemed normal at the time because everyone was doing it, but definitely not normal.

Yep. Some other eighteens I have to shout out, Caleb Williams, of course, Justin Jefferson, Marvin Harrison Junior, and then one other one I wanted to highlight, Jeremy Macklin.

Mhmm. Because I started thinking about how sick Jeremy Macklin was in college in Mizzou. And, he let's see. His oh, I'm on Charlie Joyner now. But Macklin's, yeah, freshman year of college, he had so many all purpose yards.

He had he holds the NCAA freshman record for most all purpose yards in a single season. His total yardage was 2,776 yards in 14 games. So a 198 yards per game.

Now that includes kickoff returns, but he was electric at kickoff returns. And then his next year, he, had even more. So, yeah, I just remember that that Mizzou team with Chase Daniels, they went, like, twelve and two, had a great run.

Didn't have, like, the greatest NFL career, but still a solid career and tore his ACL. And to come back and still have, like, solid seasons after tearing an ACL is just that's that's worthy of me to, you know, shout out.

Like, yeah. So maybe you weren't the greatest receiver of all time, but scored 50 some touchdowns in the NFL, and that's a that's a pretty damn good career.

That Mizzou team was sick. I actually I follow Chase Daniels content. He's on a lot of different shows that I listen to, and he's he's a fun, like, a former NFL player.

He's a guy I actually enjoy who gives really good analysis. So, yeah, that team was sick back in the day. I believe he is calling games for Mizzou Football too.

He does I watch his, like, all 22 breakdowns he does on YouTube. He's good. And then, oh, I had one other tab pulled up when you're talking about Peyton because just Peyton was so good.

And I mean, loved loved hated watching him just because, again, I was a jealous Bears fan and, like, why can't we ever have a guy like that?

But I remember he I feel like they would always beat up on the bears because the bears played a Tampa two defense.

And the whole, like, weakness of the Tampa two defense is, like, throwing the ball to the sideline in the hole between, like, under the safety ahead of the over the corner. And it was like only Peyton could do that.

Or, like, the Tampa dude defense always work because quarterbacks weren't capable of really, like, making that throw, like, perfectly on time. And then it just feels like that was, like, Manning's bread and butter.

I can see it so clearly. Like, came off a stretch play action, just hitting, like, perfect ball right before the safety in stride to Marvin or Reggie, and then they're gone.

I always thought that teams who ran it should just completely if they want us to stand a chance, do something different the time they play Manning.

Because Manning was playing against the Tampa two and practice every day, but but also against Frini and Mathis on the other side.

So you wanna talk about training against the Tampa two? You got two of the best defensive ends coming at you, and he any scenario where there's pressure, he he knows where the window.

He knows the timing, and so he became a master of that because, the Colts ran the Tampa too. So but, yeah, he was good. He was good.

Episode 18, the Manning episode. But let's talk new releases. What's coming out? Oh, I've got a fun one today, and it is there's actually a Dutch auction as we're recording this right now. I think it's happening right now. It's today.

There's a Dutch auction for 2025 absolute football. And this pro Dutch auction now, the official release date, and shout out Haystack for being the sponsor of the new release segment. I believe the original release date was 10/31.

These things are moving target. So by the time this goes out, you might be able to buy Absolute Football. I'm not quite sure. But Absolute Football has some lineage and legacy. It's been around for quite some time.

But I think Absolute really started to gain traction because in the packs of Absolut Football cards, there is an opportunity to pull kabooms. And hey. Do you have some time to enter the Kaboom room for a little bit?

I'm ready. I got my helmet on. My goggles on. You never know what's gonna hit you in the kaboom room. No. You don't. And so in light of absolute football, which I think is a really, like, solid product in terms of low low to mid end.

I just always enjoy, like, the look that feel the designs year over year. I think there's a lot a lot of, fun fun in that product, and there's a lot of different ways you can collect it.

But, inevitably, when they made the decision to start hosting kabooms, they had really became the product to try to find kabooms.

And interestingly enough, a little wrinkle on the wrinkle in the kaboom room is that we've got some new news regarding kabooms going into 2025 absolute football.

So you are going to get your, vertical kaboom, which you know and love, 44 cards.

You're going to get your horizontal kabooms, which you know and love, 36 cards in that set list. We are introducing the Super Bowl version of the kaboom, which is in both horizontal and vertical kaboom parallels.

Let's let's go out with a bang. Let's just have as many kabooms as possible. So with that the Super Bowl, you're going to have Super Bowl stars with the Super Bowl emblem on it too, so we can kind of review that.

But then if that wasn't enough, you've got the golds out of 10. You've got the greens one of one. We're introducing the purples this year. No print run, the purple kabooms. So there's a lot of kaboom.

There's a lot of kaboom in the kaboom room this year, and it all happens in 2025 absolute football. What do you think about some of those updates? I am I'm shocked by another parallel color being introduced to the kabooms.

In all serious though seriousness though, I don't really have a problem with kabooms. I guess to bring it back to the film analogy we were running with, like, maybe they're Marvel Marvel movies or something where, like, yeah.

You you know, you you need junk food or you need your easy to digest things too. And, I mean, I don't collect them because I think they're, like, overvalued in the market and just I have my own lanes, but I don't know.

I I think the designs of kabooms are cool. I've always thought they look cool, and especially, I think the golds and greens are very sick.

I would want them of my players if I felt they were a reasonable price, but I'm excited to see these Super Bowl ones. Like, I kind of assume that means they'll have imagery from Super Bowls, and I think that's cool.

Again, I like when cards capture specific moments. It feels like kabooms have always kinda done that with, like, Mahomes doing the horizontal throw, and they just have memorable images on kabooms.

So no, I definitely think they're cool. And, yeah, I wonder what the I wish they serial number the purple ones.

I just like serial numbers. I'm a simp for serial numbers. Like, the I don't know. It it'll be interesting to see, like, in Panini's final hurrah, how many kabooms they decide to put in this product.

They the Super Bowl checklist, which you got different players for the horizontal and different players for the vertical.

So on the super Kaboom Super Bowl horizontal, got Jalen Hertz, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Marcus Allen, Roger Staubach, Von Miller, Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner, and Cooper Dujean.

That is the horizontal checklist. You've got eight cards in the vertical.

Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Elway, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath. God, you gotta you gotta love a good Joe Namath clip. And, Ray Lewis. So those are your Super Bowl stars in the Kaboom Room.

Wow. Cooper Dujean getting in there. I know. Yeah. That one stood out, but he did make the play. And Yeah. He had a huge play. And I hope it, like, is an image from that, and then, the back says something about it.

That's cool. I have a, a a question that I have my weekly trivia question for you and, regarding Kaboom and wanna see how you do with this. Yes. Alright. I try to think here.

Well, you are a a war you know how you're giving out points for question askers? We're gonna we're gonna do that for host too. So if you can get within, you know, a 100 or so of this question, then you'll get, a 100 points.

Okay. Not all you can use that as credit for any stacking slabs, you know, merchandise or, you know, something else moving forward. But here we go.

Here's the question. Okay. Twenty twenty four. Kaboom. I I did some digging looking in the population report on PSA. How many and this includes horizontals and verticals. This includes the standards, the golds, and the greens.

How many kabooms in 2024 were graded? What is the population? I don't even 03/1980. 03/1980. You are just slightly off. The correct answer is ten thousand four hundred and thirty. Damn. It's a lot of kaboom. It's a lot of kaboom.

I wonder about the longevity of the kaboom, especially once Topps fanatics, they roll out their case hits and or, like, whatever their kaboom downtown equivalent is, which will come and will happen and will be pushed as, like, the big thing.

And just how kaboom's in downtowns drive current hype, like, will not to say that they won't be collected long term, but I could see a world where once tops and finacs are pushing whatever their kaboom equivalent is that, yeah, that just those prices can't sustain for the current Kabooms, I don't think.

It would it's tough seeing that.

And so before we close this out, I would wanted to know, like, the lasting legacy of Kabooms. Obviously, the impact that kaboom's have had on the front end of our hobby over the last several years have been tremendous.

And not for me, but, there are a lot of people that are buying products like Absolute to to chase these, and transact these.

What do you think the lasting legacy of Kabooms will be in our hobby? Man, I think it'll be it signals an era for sure.

And I think there will be that nostalgia factor, like, kids, maybe kids who are, like, 15, 16, 17 in the hobby now who are bound to go away for a couple years, and then they come back and they're, oh, kabooms were the thing when I was a kid.

You know, it could be it's a whole different thing for a whole different generation than it will be for me.

So I think I I don't know. It's hard to say, but I just wonder what the tops fanatics equivalent will be and how it'll affect kaboom in the the next couple years.

Because everything is a trend, and everything's, like, cyclical. Right? Like, kabooms and downtowns won't be the most popular card forever because eventually, we get into back to the movie analogy of, like, their mainstream.

And eventually, people who are after those, like, don't want the mainstream thing. They wanna dig a little deeper and find something else.

So I think there'll always be that mainstream thing for this era. So there are will always be collectors, but I think other things will catch up to the kabooms from this era, for sure.

Go visit our friends at haystackhaystack. tech. It was fun to have a little party in the kaboom room, but the lights are turning off and Semisonic's closing time is playing in the background.

So we are exiting the party and headed back to the show. Lights on in the kaboom room. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Alright. Dynamic kickoff time. We're done with the pregame antics, the theatrics.

The flyover just happened, and now it is time for the dynamic dynamic kickoff. Woah. Woah. This is what everyone's been waiting for. Alright. First question from chargers PC sports cards.

Let's play a game, he says. Top three cards in your PC, and you have to sell one, trade one, and stash one. So I kinda like this of thinking of the exercise of if I could only keep three cards, what would they be?

And challenging myself on that front. And also thinking of it though, like, not just taking the most valuable ones, but, like, I'm about to lose my collection. I have to keep three to represent maybe the different pillars or lanes.

Like, what would I keep? And my answers were my 2,005 finest gold X Factor, Priest Holmes, my 2,002 finest gold, Ricky Williams, PSA 10, and then twenty twelve, Prism, Black Finite, Jay Cutler.

And so I was wondering why those cards, like, why a Ricky Williams card, you know, like, seemed like an outlier to me.

And I guess the theme between those choices are those were all cards that at the time when I bought it, it was, like, more than I had ever spent on a card in that category.

Like, when I got the Priest Holmes Gold X Factor, I had been buying, like, $2 cards of Priest Holmes.

Like, I just you know, I was collecting card. I I didn't know anything at that point, and that Gold Extractor was, like, $50. And I was, like, holy shit. I'm spending $50 on a Priest Holmes card?

Like, this is not something I'm intending to flip or sell. This is just me spending $50 of my hard earned money on a card of Priest Holmes. Like so that one stands out, and I just love that card.

I love o five gold extractors that, like, represents fantasy running backs, all that, that card. And then same thing with the 2,002 finest Ricky Williams gold. I love o two finest. That's been a formative set for me.

That one was sitting on eBay forever, and I finally spent, like, $250 on it and was it's same. I was like, why am I spending this much money on Ricky Williams? But, and now I'm glad I have those. I'm glad I did it.

And then the same thing with the Cutler Finite. So, yeah, those were kind of my top three cards that if everything was going away, I would keep onto those to kind of have my running backs, have my finest, have my bare stuff.

And then I think I would sell the finite because that means I have money to spend.

I would trade the Ricky because I know a lot of people who want that card, Ricky collectors who've reached out, and I keep the priest homes because that priest homes card is still just, like, probably my most, like, significant card personally.

But that was how I took the exercise. You've inspired you've inspired me because I was gonna be a wet blanket and be, like, the the top three cards in my collection aren't going anywhere and just not play ball.

Do it. You know, the ball is in the air, and I'm getting ready to receive it after the dynamic kickoff. So I'm gonna try to run with it a little bit.

You know, on the spot, no prep. Here are my favorite cards in my collection right now. I will say my 2012 T. Y. Hilton PSA 10 rookie black finite one of one. I mean, dude, I just pull out the car.

That card is like the epitome of everything I aspire for in my collection. I just pull out that card and just smile sometimes. And it has nothing to do with, like, the value and how I bought it early, and I'm sure the values increase.

I just look at it, and I'm just like, this card is so sick. It's got everything you could want for in a card. It's a one of one of a in a amazing parallel in a PSA 10 of one of my favorite players.

It's like just every box. Check. Check. Check. Check. Check. That card, $20. 14 Andrew Luck Black Finite, one of one PSA 10. Another PSA 10. Again, same exercise sans rookie card, but replace rookie card with favorite prism design.

You got the gray. You know, it's the black vinyl, but you got the grayness going on in that one. And just, I've always talked about that card because I love it so so passionately.

Shout out Grant, Waldorf Stories. I'll never forget forget the fact that you introduced me to the person who I bought the card from at the Nashville Card Show, so I love that card.

And then an oldie but goodie, the 02/2002, finest Peyton Manning X Factor out of 20, BGS nine.

I always bring up this card. That card was important to me. I sold my collection of wrestling memorabilia to get it, and it's the longest standing card in my collection.

So those are my three. If I'm going to so it's, sell, stash, and trade. Mhmm. God. This is where it gets painful. I am going to man. I know what I'm keeping. I'm keeping the luck.

There's no chance I'm giving that up. That that card means too much to me. I'm gonna sell the t y just because of same theory as you said. It's like, dude, I can't even imagine what I'd get for that now, which I could go buy more cards.

Mhmm. And I'm gonna use the same train of thought you did, but I'll trade the the Manning just because, if I'm giving up a Manning of that magnitude, I'm going to want Peyton in return.

And so I I know plenty of Manning collectors that want that card that I could have organize a fun trade with.

Yeah. No. That's it was fun to do because, yeah, when I first read it, I was like, I can't do this. Like, I don't know what to do. I didn't wanna do it.

But, sometimes, you know, that's what makes the dynamic kickoff dynamic is we push the boundaries of what we think we can do. Yeah. And then also thinking like, alright. If I'm keeping these three, it means I'm selling everything else.

Like, my twenty thirteen select gold LeBron is, like, probably my most valuable card. But I was like, in this scenario, I'm letting it go because then I have funds to because once I do this exercise, I'm starting a collection again.

Like, anytime we do any of these hypotheticals, it still means I'm starting the collection over. So now I have funds. I have this, like, I it's in the back of my brain.

And I don't know if it's into the ear, but the back of my brain, I keep hearing this voice that's telling me. It's saying, dude, you know, you want to go in even further on your prism stuff.

You want to go even deeper. This is what you love the most. And I keep hearing it, and I'm like, is this telling me to, like, just, like, get rid of everything else and just, like, go complete type collector.

And so I haven't, like, gone up to my cases yet because you know what happens. You go up to them, you start entertaining the idea of getting rid of cards.

It's over. It's over. But that voice has been in my head, and I love my collection right now. But I also sometimes, like, I do like movement. So I'm not I'm saying that because this is kinda therapeutic.

I haven't talked to anyone about this, but, yeah. I'm, like, entertaining the idea of just, like, doing something a little outside the box. But I haven't really got there yet, but just wanted to speak on that.

Yeah. And it is I mean, I think about that too of the way we collect this modern collecting where everything is much more fluid and it's like we're molding our collections daily. Like, they're we're they're constantly shaping.

It's not just accumulating stuff, putting it away, and just always accumulating. Like, there is this way that we're forming our collections to say something, to be something that Mhmm. Then lends itself to making drastic changes.

It's a if you're, you know, carving something out of stone, eventually, it's like, wait. Let me just break this chunk off and, you know, then we can start working on this thing. Like, it's I don't know.

I all that to say, I don't think you're alone in in that thought process of, like, what if I were to just do this and completely, you know, cut off part of this collection because it's that's not what the vision is anymore.

Like, that's not what I'm trying to tell. Like, or you when you feel like you've achieved that part. Like, I was collecting rushing leaders, and I feel like I took that as far as, like, I wanted to.

Or I got to a point where I'm like, okay. I did that. That was, like, a couple year project that there is I took a final picture of it. So I have that, like, you know, with me, and I remember that I did that.

But now it's okay. Now I can do something else, like, and focus. Then you you it's like animorphs. You, like, animorph into, like, Bijon Robinson where it's like Yeah.

He you know, it's adjacent to that that, like, running back collection, but allow it also is like a current player. So, yeah. I don't like to be I'm not a static person, man.

I'm always moving, going, and sometimes those thoughts go into my collecting. And I don't know what I'm gonna do. This is what I do know. I enjoy the work I'm putting in and doing with my prism collection by far and away.

It's not even close. Anything else I collect or do, there's a huge gap between my enjoyment there and then everything else. And so I'm inter I'm asking myself these questions.

It's like, well, if this is what you love the most, like, shouldn't that just be what you're focused on? And I don't know yet. But, yeah, I'm just I'm entertaining the thought right now.

Yeah. No. It's that's what's so fun about collecting and why I know I'll be doing this forever is because I have there's no shortage of ideas of, like, what to do or, like, lanes to collect in.

Or, like, what if I just sell everything and got a Walter Payton rookie PSA 10? And, like, I had that and then, like, build around you know, like, that would be sick.

Or I don't know. Just, again, a fleeting idea. But You'd have to get a Razor Ramon card too to share with the wall. Okay. I'm getting I'm getting that picture in the in the host carousel.

What a great day. Please do. Shout out, Kosh, who somebody post I I sent it to you, and I just wanna make sure we give give credit so I can, insta account have her, Pat, posted the Peyton and Razor Ramon, picture.

And, dude, I it popped. I popped so hard. I was like, what a a what a foe. You got sweetness and razor, both RIP. Hopefully, they're tagging in heaven together.

Oh, yeah. But I thought that was a cool photo from, WrestleMania when, Lawrence Taylor was involved. Just I god, man. Seems like yesterday. Yeah. No. I mean, I didn't know about that in the lore I'm looking up.

There's they cut promos together. This is gotta rabbit hole to go down after this. And I'm glad you brought up Bijan because I don't know if you caught on I think it was Monday night football.

The niners Falcons game, they threw up a graphic of Bijan, most scrimmage yards per game chasing Priest Holmes. And I was like, this they made this for me. Like, Like, police homes and Dijon, scrimmage guards stats on the same graphic.

I was like, this was created specific. I am the target audience of this post. You are. Alright. Cool. That was a fun game. Thank you, Chargers PC sports cards.

Let us keep it moving from Van Isle cards. Who was slash is a lesser known player that had a huge impact on your collecting? I I I picked Donald Brown just because I love Donald Brown, and, you know, he's a first round draft pick.

Probably didn't lead up to the first round hype. But, dude, I I just I when when the draft was happening, I wanted the Colts to draft him. They drafted him, bought his jersey.

I'm all about Donald Brown cards, and I pay I've talked about me paying crazy for his twenty twelve gold prism. So that was the first name that came to my mind. What about you? I put Anthony Thomas. Bears running back.

Just one of the guys that like, the two thousand one bears team was kind of my, like, coming online as a bears fan. I knew I liked the bears, but they're always bad. That team was sick. Anthony Thomas, offensive rookie of the year.

He just holds a a special place in my heart. I have a a few of his cards that I enjoy. And and he was in the 2001 draft class with, like, Ladany and Tomlinson and Drew Brees, 2001 tops. I remember, like, ripping that as a kid.

So Anthony Thomas definitely had an impact because, like, buying those cards and getting hype about them was, like, my fur like, opened the door of not trying to just chase hobby hype, but, like, oh, there's a cool feeling when I buy a player that I just personally like because he ran for 1,100 yards as a rookie or what whatever.

But I was so it connected the moment, you know? So that was That's a really good that's a really good rookie class, by the way.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Steve Smith. Right. Reggie Wayne. Johnson. What you're Reggie Wayne. O one. Great great draft class. Vic. Vic. Yeah. There's there's a lot there.

Next question. I forgot a jersey numbered or the jersey or the 100 minus jersey number. So this is a Yeah. Go. I was gonna say this is a type of card that I'm I'm aware of. I have a Priest Holmes in a binder somewhere. I might have two.

But I never understood the numbering or just put in the effort to learning it. But at the same time, I do love when a set has, like, a specific, like, schtick like this or, like, whatever, an interesting way of numbering.

So, yeah, I do think they're cool, but it's not something I have a ton of experience with. Same, gimmick as the, credentials, now and future.

Like, the same type of gimmick Yeah. With the status and aspirations. I have never collected these hard I've I had the locks in his rook at his rookies, which was, like, out of 12 and out of 88.

Mhmm. So I had the 12 and a PSA 10. I I had dude, I had so many Andrew Luck cards. I before the beginning of this, dude, I had, like, I had way too I had, like, over a 100 I had so many cards.

And, you know, when you collect a player and then you get down to the essentials, you're just like, I just like these way better.

I was like, I don't need all this stuff. So ended up kinda getting rid of some of those. And I'm just not a I'm not crazy on die cuts.

Just not really my thing. They are cool cards. There's some shine to them, and they have a lineage and legacy. But, yeah. Cool cards. I've just never been able to hold on to them for a long time. Yep.

But definitely a fun lane to collect if you're looking again, there's so much opportunity, I still think, in early two thousands football of, like, if you wanna collect these players, like Ladanian Tomlinson or Drew Brees or whoever, like, there are sets like that that are cool numbered cards that are very affordable or relatively affordable.

Usually, they're in on weekly auction formats. And if you see any of those on weekly auction formats, you should definitely hit the follow button because most marketing is have a follow button.

That's that doesn't make sense. I just bid on my own cards to make sure that I'm watching them. What do you mean follow? There's no We we might need to cut this.

You shouldn't say that publicly. That'll get you, put on trial here in the hobby there, John. The technology simply doesn't exist to monitor a card without bidding on it. Everyone knows you have to bid on a card.

Dude, there's a heart. There's a heart, and you just have to click the heart, and it'll send you do another list. And then you can, even if you you don't bid, you can follow them. You don't have to have any activity on the card.

You just hit the heart button and it'll be on the list. Oh, I thought see, I thought I bid on my cards and then I hard them to show that I bid on them. Like, it's to remind myself that I put my the love out there for that card.

Like, I love this card. It's my card that I'm selling, but I'm bidding on it. We we we should talk about this offline. I don't want you to incriminate yourself any further, but, yeah.

Just the hit the hit the hard button. That's all you have to do. Okay. Good. Noted. I didn't think the technology existed, but duly noted, public service announcement, never bid on your own cards by any means.

Never. Just never bid up for whatever reason, any reasoning you have in in your twisted mind that make it okay to bid on your own cards.

It's it's it's not legit. Just don't do it. Just don't full stop. Don't bid on your own cards. And we all what like, we people make mistakes.

Okay? Some people do. And if you make a mistake, what's the number one thing you can do, especially if you're just caught red handed? You could admit fault and apologize. But let's we're not idiots.

Let's not spin this. Let's not we're not idiots. No one here listening to the football card podcast is an idiot, so don't treat us like one. Yeah. But, hypothetically, if I were to bid on my own cards, it surely wouldn't be my fault.

It would a 100% be the platform's fault. Absolutely. It is not it is not my fault. It probably is the platform's fault. It has to be. Alright. Great questions. Don't bid on your own cards.

And one more question from Drake's PC. Here's another exercise. You have $1,500 and you can only buy football hobby boxes from 98 to $20. 15. What are you buying that's fun to open and you also won't lose your entire investment?

That in itself, I feel isn't that like what everyone wants to know? It's like, what what can I open and not lose money? I'd like I don't think that I'm planning on losing everything. Yeah. I'm losing everything.

Yeah. Yeah. We're Drake, we're light we're lighting the money on fire. Yeah. I'm I'm throwing that part of the question out. But, and he says it doesn't have to be the same box. If multiples, you just have to stay within the budget.

So, yeah, I was just focused in on I have 1,500 hypothetical dollars to spend, which I love spending hypothetical money. I'm gonna rip a box of twenty ten Topps Chrome football for $450. I love the golds.

I think super factors are sick. A Jay Cutler super factor from 2010 Topps Chrome is, becoming a high Cutler card on my list of I just love that set. Bowman Chrome 02/2006. That almost made my I that was on my list for a second.

That's classic. Bang for your buck in the hobby. It's come up multiple times. I ripped the box of this at the National this, a few months ago, and I pulled, o six x factor Tom Brady that those raw are selling for, like, $300.

So that was just electric. I've never, like, ripped and, like, hit anything. So Did you get an encased card?

I got an encased card a j cutler. You got it. You got the j card. I got the and this was, like, all while the 2012 prism cutler was up for auction. And when I pulled that cutler encased, I was like, this is a sign.

If there's ever been a sign that I have to buy this finite. But that was so fun. So I'd run that back. I would get two of those. Mhmm. And another high card is o six, Bowman Chrome, Priest Holmes, Superfractor, or the red out of five.

Or the red. Dude, how are those boxes so affordable? They're gonna be sold out everywhere after this, but you can get the supers and you can get the reds.

It doesn't make any sense that those cards are so cheap. And those there's a design of those cards is so cool. The design is so cards. The design is so good.

The golds are are golden. They have the oranges out of 25. Just an awesome set. And then twenty thirteen prism football. I saw that there's some comps that may be around $600, so that would put me right around my $1,500 limit.

I need a look I need a look where you're looking because I I also had 2013 Prism in the I think I did last sold on card ladder, $750.

So that's go ahead. Yeah. There was that that was the last one, but like a true, you know, negotiator. Good for you. I think right before it, there was $5. 00 5. Okay. And before that was 500. So there's I think 600 is fair.

Right? I think I think it's cool that both that yeah. That both that made our list. So I have that. And then I did a, 2014 Prism Hobby for 400, which I was like, how Yeah. And make it's just my me and my mind.

I'm like, how is like, you hear these boxes are like, you know, $1,500 of new product that just came out. I'm like, wait a minute. In prism, $20. 14 is only 400. So I was like, this is like a bargain. So I did that.

And then I have $5 left over. So I just I decided I'm I am a I'm a I haven't really expressed it this much on this podcast, but I'm a huge Bowman Chrome U fan. I love I love Bowman Chrome U. I love the concept. I love the firsts.

I think it just it all makes sense. And I wanna think baseball, baseball card collecting, and Bowman Chrome drafts and prospects, and that whole concept. Because if that exists, it makes me really like this concept, the Bowman First.

So I'd buy a hobby box of the brand new product that's about to drop, which I saw for a 160. And then I'll buy a box of last year's, which is a 185, while we're at it.

But I I love Bowman UChrome. It is that is a product that there are products that reach a certain threshold, hobby box wise, and they cost you, like, under $200. And I'm just like, you know what?

Like, I can I'm gonna order, like, four boxes of this, and just, like, on a Friday night, rip it by myself. And who cares if I didn't get anything? Like, to me, that's fun. So it's it's a it's got all the qualities.

It's got, like, the prospect side of it, and it's not they're not trying to bend you over backwards for the cost of it. So to me, it's like it hits all those elements that makes it easy for me to justify ripping a box of football cards.

Yeah. That's fun. Ripping, fun. I need we gotta rip something. We're ripping something. On season two, we're gonna do a rip.

Awesome. Thank you for the questions, everyone. The dynamic kickoff is over. We return it for a touchdown. Next up, collecting updates. What are the current collecting projects that you're focusing your resources on?

Anything you wanna talk about, Brett? I will announce, even though I don't have it yet. Hopefully, I'll have it by the time this goes live, maybe a day later, but I'll talk about it because I think I previewed it last week.

I won at auction a week ago the 2020 Select Jonathan Taylor field level rookie, prism black one of one PSA nine.

I saw this card was up for auction. I was like, I'm gonna win that card. And I previously owned the gold out of 10 PSA 10. I ended up getting rid of it when I consolidated into my PSA 10 prism gold Taylor rookie.

And it was like, I regretted it. I was like, I I really want that card back, the gold, just because it's the checkerboard pattern. And the image is so sick. It's like he's, like, getting ready to, like, stiff arm someone.

And I was like getting ready to buy a copy of that card. And then the the the one of one came up and I was just like this is meant to be. So I I had a pretty aggressive mega bid on that card.

And, dude, I ended up getting it for $1,200, and I was just, like, stunned. I was like, it was one of those instant incidents where I got the card for more than half of what I expected to pay.

And I was, like, got the cool card. I won the auction, which I wasn't even sure because Taylor's, you know, three freaking touchdowns in three different games. He's on a tear right now. So I was worried about that.

And then when I saw that what I want it for, it was, like, one of those incident incidences where it's, like, I got the card, and it's like, I had to do whatever I could to not then go spend the money that I thought was already going to be spent on the tailor.

I was like, be good. Like, you got the card for a banger of a deal. So, pumped to bring that one home. And it's fun to buy cards when your guys are just, you know, playing at a the level that Jonathan Taylor is right now.

I love the free money hack. Right. It's and so it a pickup that I had, 2,013 prism gold, all Sean Jeffrey popped up on eBay, $300 OBO.

I contemplated it for a second, but eBay is diabolical with some of their features, like number of watchers, number of offers, the whole, like, in someone's cart thing.

Like, I clicked on that listing, and it was already had two offers. I was Two. Like, I was just, like, thinking because I'm, like, like The competing that the it's the words.

Competing and then the number. It's like that's causing actions. Yes. That is a direct confrontation to you. It's like you have now entered a competition whether you wanted to or not just by clicking on the listing.

Like, you have entered the arena. And, because I was like, I should offer, like, 200. And I'm like, no. I'm I'm gonna offer two I bet these two other offers are $200.

Like, I just need to bid this. But one thing that did run through my mind, as I was justifying it, I recently won that like, a Brandon Marshall prism gold a couple weeks ago that I won for, like, half of what I bid.

I bid, like, 400 on it, and I won it for 200. And in my mind, I'm like, oh, you have $200 left over from the Marshall auction. Just fabricating free money.

It was awesome. And so, yeah, been the Alshon. Was pumped to get that. I don't have it in hand yet, but it's a link in the collection because I have, like, the 13 gold cutler. I have the 13 finite Alshon. So it, like, will just fit.

It it makes me able to, like, lay out my cards, and there's, like, a direct connection in between some. So, You have the 13 gold and finite Alshon Jeffrey? I have the 13 finite Alshon, and I now have the 13 gold Alshon.

I I I believe these early sets, when you're able to do that, connect the two, the the the Yeah. And the gold. Tim to me, there's nothing cooler to see when people show that off.

Because it is just, especially now, if you're doing it, like, in 2025, talking twelve, thirteen, and maybe enter have 14 enter that conversation. It we will, because 14 finites are impossible to find.

Dude, though, that is, like, the cool to me, if I see someone post that, that is the coolest thing I could see is, like, like that. That is so hard to do. So congrats, man. That's awesome.

Yeah. I'm I'm pumped for that one. And then there is another one. I haven't revealed it yet. I want this one in hand, but it was a true bin. Like, saw the card, saw the price But maybe a second, and I just just smashed it.

It was because I I again, even if you divert to check card ladder and then you smash bin twenty seconds later, that's not smashing bin. The smashing bin has to be, I opened the listing. I didn't go anywhere else. I just hit buy it now.

So Although they're a they're a sponsor, a true authentic bin smash is no performance enhancing technology can be used. It needs to be, it needs to be, authentic. Yeah. Gut feel. Like, this is what I've trained for.

This like, all those hours scrolling on card ladder at night are for this moment to just know, like, I think and just to be like, wait. It's this many dollars for this card that I've never seen in my life? Whatever. I'll figure it out.

So I I hear the eight mile theme in my head where I smash Ben every time. It's like one shot, and I'm hearing Eminem, Bee Rabbit. I'm just like, it's time, man. You're in the bat you're in the arena. I look like what?

Man in the arena? Like that? Yeah. Man in the arena. That is me sitting on my couch looking at you, babe. I am the man in the arena right now. They're driving me to competition. If if you're here's a pro tip for anyone, though.

If you if you are in the arena on your couch and your kids are in bed and you've got an important auction to bid on, don't go full, like, head on the pillow mode because you are surely to be sedated after a long day of work and being a parent.

You gotta sit upright so you don't fall asleep before that auction ends.

Yep. Yep. Alright. Great great updates there. Let's get into the last couple segments, get out of here. NFL check-in. Team talk. Brett, the Colts are the best team in the NFL.

How does that feel? I you know, I've I've I've been saying this recently. My talking points have been, I'm trying to enjoy the moment. I'm trying to be present. I am not trying to be overconfident.

I'm not trying to be overzealous at all. Like, that's the last thing I wanna do is get up on here and be like, of course, they're the number one team. Blah blah blah. It's like, I didn't expect this. Nobody expected this.

So let's just have fun if you like the Colts, and let's enjoy it. I mean, they're the they're doing things that the Peyton Manning offense didn't even do. So I am really, really having a good time. The Chargers win was a a a a fun one.

Their the offense is one one of, if not the best offense I've ever seen from this team in my lifetime. The defense is making plays. Still not perfect. There's there I'm glad there's been a lot of injuries.

So but there's a lot Jeremy Fowler put out, like, top team in the league. The Colts are being very aggressive defensively before the trade deadline. I'm like, that's what we wanna hear.

It's it's you go all in and you get you you go to the stinker teams, and you try to get the stinker teams, give them some draft picks and get some contract guys that can help your team make an impact.

Because, you know, it comes down to the playoffs and playing these proven teams like the Chiefs, so you're gonna need some arsenal.

So it's been fun. You know, I I do like I've been seeing a little bit of, like, Jonathan Taylor chatter, and it's like, you know, running backs aren't meant to be MVP players.

But peep I've seen a couple, people map Taylor what he's done so far to, like, the Adrian Peterson MVP year in like the trajectory on yards and touchdowns is very, very similar and obviously extreme long shot for a running back to win MVP.

But, you know, you're a good team when you're you can't decide is Daniel Jones or Jonathan Taylor the MVP of this team. They're both playing wonderful along with almost everyone offensively.

So we've got, the Titans this week, 14 favorite at home, but then things get a little more difficult. We've got, the Steelers on the road, and then we've got the Berlin matchup.

It'll be Jonathan Taylor versus Bijan. So if you like running back play in the Germans are getting a a good showing, and then got a bye weekend going into, Kansas City.

So I would imagine the powers that be at NBC probably want that Colts Chiefs game flexed into Sunday night football.

So we'll see how things shake out. That's I like that. JT, his his touchdown charting right now. Like, he's gonna get into the my priest homes range.

He's if he gets up in the twenties, I would love to again, I love running backs. I love scrimmage yards. JT, Bijan, and McCaffrey are one, two, and three in scrimmage yards. Good players.

Good players. We'll, I'm sure, not talk about them at all if Chris joins the podcast, any of that in that trio. No. But, yeah, It's just a wagon. The Colts are a very good football team. How about the Bears continuing to win?

What how what's your mindset been like? I you know, it seems like, there's good things happening in, Chicagoland. Yeah. I mean, can't we'll never complain about a win, especially after this team always found ways to lose.

Offense, like, passing offense didn't look great last game, which is, I think, the the biggest concern right now because, like, the running game has been great the last couple weeks. Defense, Dennis Allen is awesome.

Not a good head coach. Great defensive coordinator. Right? Great defensive coordinator. But the biggest takeaway is just Ben Johnson. I love Ben Johnson. Like, I believe in Ben Johnson for the next decade with this team.

Like, Caleb has work to do. He's still young, but it's been like, I'm just so hype about Ben Johnson and his attitude and vision, and it feels like the team is turning around.

That said, they were four and two last year and then lost 10 in a row. They're four and two now. Going into Baltimore with Lamar Jackson supposedly coming back. So, you know, this week will be a test.

There are growing pains. Like, penalties are insane. They had another, like, 10 penalties for a 100 yards last game, and they forced 15 turnovers in the last four games. Like, that rate will not continue. So I don't know.

I'm not like I don't feel great about them as, like, a legit contender. It's fun to see them win, but, I don't know. This game at Baltimore will be telling. I could I am getting my hopes up and, like, bears could go win this game.

But then again, I could see Lamar just torching them five touchdown game. That's just, like, kind of a reminder of, yeah, you're still the same old bears. Or they put up a fight because this is a different team.

I don't know. Still just cautiously optimistic. I love watching a win, but, I really wanna see the passing game just look a little more solid to fully get onboard of thinking that they have a shot at playoffs and beyond.

It's fun when your team is winning football games. But, yes, it's it's awesome watching a win.

I wanted to, hitting some of these other teams, I wanted to just remark on the Detroit Lions. And I've watched them a couple times this year. They've they've got it all that team is good. That team is well coached.

They've they just got it going on, man. The Run game, the pass game, the defense watching the lines and Bucks game and feel bad for the Bucks because they are just they're they're they're such a solid squad again.

Well coached. Baker's had a really good year, but that team is crumbling just with injuries and you saw Mike Evans go down.

And so, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how the Buccaneers rebound after that game. But, yeah, I'm not sure anyone wants to play the Lions right now. They're they're really good.

There's so good. Just dudes everywhere. Jameer Gibbs, yeah, as a running back fan, that long run he had was he's so fast and explosive. They're just he's also The longest run since, like, Barry Sanders or something, I think.

For the Lions, probably. Yeah. It looks like an 80 something yarder. 78. So be Bijan has 81, the longest on the season. But, you know, gotta shout out my guy.

But, yeah, Lions are sick. I had did the Patriots do it again? Is, like, is Drake May legit? Yes. I think he is. He's legit and the coach is legit. Dude, Vrabel, dude, how did any how did was he not hired last year?

Like, how did the tight I have so many questions. Why did the Titans let go of this guy? Just because there was conflict with leadership that you got rid of in a coach who wins, and then then he didn't get hired last year.

And then now just plop them into New England. Like, we all now have to deal with the patriots for the next ten years because you we let Mike Rabel go to New England. Yeah. It's like, of course, that happened.

Of course. I mean, wasn't the didn't the conflict start when Titans traded away AJ Brown? Like, Rabil was so pissed. And Yeah. Yeah. So it's the Titans are just dumb. There's there's your answer there. Just what are you doing?

And it's just the whole, like I don't know. Everyone's greedy in the NFL. It's like, oh, you you were going to the playoffs like four years in a row and then you had one year you went eight and eight. Time to fire the coach.

Like, Sam Darnold. Oh, you only went fourteen and three with the Vikings. Not good enough. Get out of here. Like, come on. What's the alternative? The alternative is you're about to be in football hell for maybe forever.

So yeah. Do you remember, which I don't think he's on the team anymore. Dude, they they thought Traylon Burks was gonna be, like, AJ Brown's replacement. He they, like Oh, yeah.

They, like, drafted him. They're like, oh, we're good. We're good here. Yeah. It's like, Ja Morant. We're good in the West. Yeah. We're good, man. We're good here. What else? What other takes you got? What else? I'm okay.

I'm I know the finish of the Giants and Broncos game was, like, miraculous and unbelievable. But, like, I'm so burn out on that conversation, and I've heard it from, like, so many different talking heads, so many different angles.

And, like, my primary takeaway from it is, like, I'm I'm not sure that, like, makes me feel, like, better about the Broncos that, like, they had to create magic in the fourth quarter. It's not, like, to disparage the Broncos.

I think they're very solid team. But and I know Bo Nicks had a really good fourth quarter, but Bo Nicks had a stinker three quarters. And he's been he's been less impressive this year than he was his rookie year.

So I'm I'm I'm left going into week eight with questions about Bo Nix, and that's where I'm at right now. Yeah. It's it's hard. It's just so week to week. Where, like, right now, I'm like, damn it, Caleb.

I want you to play better. Look at Drake May. He's completing 98% of passes or whatever. And all it takes is Caleb plays good for two weeks straight, and Drake has, like, two off that. And he's like, alright. We're back, baby.

But, yeah, the the comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah. Like, with that draft class, especially with, like, how well Jaden played last year, and now Drake May is going crazy, and Bo Nix is in there, and Penix looks, you know, solid.

It's it's a good draft class and it's hard not to especially being the team that had the choice of all of them to constantly be comparing that pick to all the quarterbacks that came behind them.

Because yeah. As of now, there was there was no Ryan Leaf. That was the second choice. The second choices are all looking as good, better. So it only time will tell, but, foreign to that's all I got.

Foreign to baby. Flaco, just love that. That was just a fun game to watch. By the time people are listening to this, that'll be very old news, but love an old QB just slinging it.

Speaking of old q QBs, by the way, we're in tie we're we're in the Andy Dalton era now and with the Panthers because we got the high ankle spring with Bryce Young, but the Panthers have four wins.

How about that? Yeah. That is crazy. I mean, who would have thought? Not me. I I when I, like, looked at the records, I was like, they've, like, sneakily got some wins here and there.

So shout out to all you Panthers. You you won or two Panthers fans who listen to the football card podcast. I know it's been dark, but, and I know your quarterbacks hurt right now.

But, I mean, you you got a winning season right now, so enjoy it. Three game winning streak. That's pretty impressive. Yep. Final take, Christian McCaffrey's sick. Very good football player.

He is someone that you'd think I would want to collect just from a scrimmage yard fantasy stud standpoint. I'm realizing the only reason I haven't is because I've had him twice in fantasy, and both years he got hurt.

And, like, for me, just the personal connection is the ultimate driver. Like so, I have just a different view on him, but I can remove myself from also being a Bijan fan.

Not that they're in competition, but, like, there is a general, like, I want Bijan to be better than Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey, of course. Like, that's the guy I'm championing. So I don't know.

I just have to, though, acknowledge CMC is sick. They had the matchup with the Falcons, and he just easily cleared 200 scrimmage yards in a game. So it's just cool to see him. And again, rebounding from injuries, like, hell, yeah.

Go have a career. So shout out CMC. By the way, because, they've been on the the, prime time television for so many times. I don't know why. And I didn't get a chance to pull this, but I've seen so much Falcons football this year.

Dude, Jake Matthews, his, like, start streak on the offensive line is insane. They flashed it before the game. And, dude, I was like, you never see that from, like, an offensive lineman perspective.

I was like, that rules. Yeah. Just having the line that can hold it down and having a line that can run. Like, the Bears rushing attack, running for 200 yards was sick to watch. Just and schemed runs. I did see a graphic.

The Bears have the most big plays per game, which is like, oh, my my good my my good friend who's in my, who's a Bears fan, he he definitely shared shared that one. That chart. Yeah. Runs over 10 yards, passes over 20 yards.

Like, Ben Johnson. It's just the Ben Johnson effect. He just knows how to scheme shit and make it happen. Just need the need Caleb to just figure it out. Just be a little more consistent. Just get the ball out.

I'm all about getting the ball out. It it's so you'll get the ball get the ball out. It's okay to figure things out. It's a to be in this place where you can figure it out when your team's also winning. It's a good spot.

Jake Matthews, a 184 consecutive starts, by the way. That's crazy for alignment. That's just crazy. Seeing linemen get rolled up on, like, I don't know how everyone's not breaking at legs and ankles every play the way that yeah.

Alright. Let's move on to some market watch and get out of here. Alright. We got card ladder with our very fun market watch segment. Shout out to the card ladder team.

I am showing the wrong screen here. Let's redo this so I can I I need I need to go back to training here? It's perhaps it's because, my I was telling John before this, I woke up and part of my screen is gray.

So now I have to deal with, do I buy another computer or wait this out? So shout out Apple for making products that don't last three years.

I could spend that money on football cards, you know. I don't wanna spend it on my laptop. Yeah. Like, when I have to spend any money just like on a normal home thing, it's like, what?

$100 for that? Meanwhile, I'm just buying Alshon Jeffery cards for $300 That's right. And not even blinking. Nope. The first card we have here is the 27 prism twenty seventeen prism stained glass Tom Brady BGS9.

This sold on eBay for $23,100, and I saw this sale. And I'm in I'm I'm I have way too many Brady collector friends because I know how coveted these cards are even if I don't try to pay attention.

But I was like, I've seen, I've held, I've I've these cards are very, very well liked, and there's 10 copies.

And I thought about it, and it's like, only time I've ever seen these cards change hands are privately through these Brady collectors.

And so I did a, look. There's been one other sale publicly of these. And there's this is released in 2017.

And it was in July '24. And it was the b g BGS nine copy, and it sold for 15,000. So in a year, this card went up eight k. And I think part of that is just, like, they look cool. They don't transact that much.

And somebody was, like, this might be my only opportunity. So I'm gonna win this, and I'm okay with paying $8,000 more. Yeah. That's those are sweet cards. I owned a Ezekiel Elliott at one point, and very cool card.

So we're gonna since there was another there's another one, it's the Mahomes. Mhmm. The 2017, which is his rookie. And this one is an altered copy. It's in a Beckett slab, but altered.

So, you know, probably a printing error. This sold for 22 k. So what's interesting about it, if you wanna ever see the which we don't have to deal with this much with ultra modern cards, but dealing with the impact of an altered copy.

This one, there was a the last copy only other copy that sold was in '23, And it was a PSA 10, and it sold for 45 k. So just a little, like, discrepancy between an altered copy in '25 and a PSA 10 copy in '23.

Yeah. Rookie year, though. I wish I had the rookie badge. I agree. Where would you put it on this card? Oh, top right, maybe? Yeah. That's what there's there seems to be like like, on the like, paired up with Chiefs logo.

Yeah. Hearing that. Or bottom yeah. I'm not picky. Just, like, don't put it on his face or something, but any of the standard alignments would do. No rookie badge neck tattoo for Mahomes?

Yeah. Alright. The last card. How about a 1998 Skybox EX 2,001 Curtis Martin essential credentials now. Now this is out of 14, and so not a card you see every day. This thing sold for $4,200, and I was like, alright.

Let's see, all sales. This is the only PSA copy that is sold. And I was thinking about these cards, and it's like, dude, if there is one Hall of Fame player who does not get any respect in the hobby. It's Curtis Martin, man.

And it's just because he was like a lunch pail guy just picking up yards everywhere. But this is, I would imagine, one of his better cards. And 42 to $100 isn't chump change, but we've seen what the rare and scarce credentials do.

And, I thought that was, like, kinda especially in this time where the market's really hot, I was like, man, that seems like a pretty decent price. But I feel that way every after every Curtis Martin sale.

It's like, oh, that was cheap. Yeah. That that card is so sick. The color match on that, I would have thought it would go for way more just from it being that low of a number in credentials.

I feel like Yep. The lower the number gets, the wider the range of people who want it are. So that's definitely a cool there's a I guess it's the next year.

It's 99. But there's a Priest Homes. One of them is, like, out of seven, and I've just never seen it. And I don't think I ever will. And I know if it comes to auction, like, other people will want it just because it's out of seven.

So for this to be out of 14, a good PSA grade for this set. Great. Great, I think. Yeah. Eight. Hall of fame running back. Yeah. And, like, yes. Curtis Martin out there, by the way. Oh, that's crazy. Curtis yes.

The lunch pail are just, like, I feel like viewed as, like, consistent, but never had the highest highs. He did lead the league in rushing in o four with 1,697 yards, first team All Pro, just had a monster season late in his career.

Kind of a Tiki Barber esque Mhmm. Trajectory. But, yeah, shout out to Martian. Awesome. We did it. Episode 18, card call out. Last week, I didn't even actually say the card call out on the pod.

It was brought to my attention in a comment that I started talking about previous card call outs and totally, missed the plot. So watch the tape. Gotta get better, and I I would vow to never do that again.

Last week, we asked to see green cards. That was awesome. This week, gonna take a break from the colors, though that has been a very fun series. This week, the episode 18 card callout.

Wanna see a pair of cards, same set, same year, same parallel. So, like, two, same everything, but of two different players. So, you know, it could be on the same team. It could be just players that have a story together, something.

But a pair of cards, same set, same year, same parallel. Let's see them. Post them, tag football card pod on Instagram. We'll share them, and we'll see you next week. Thanks, everybody.