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It is episode 43. It is booked to last coming at you. Welcome to booked to last, a wrestling card podcast for the card collecting community that goes from the top rope to top loaders. We are your host, Ryan Bannister of RBI Crew seven and Adam Gelman of main event wrestling cards here on the stacking slab podcast network. Don't forget to like and subscribe here on stacking slabs, especially if this is your first time you're joining up.

You can find the Patriot at patriot.com/stackingslabs, and you could follow Adam and I on social media at RBI crew seven and at w w gellman respectfully. Let's ring that bell and get this slobberknocker on the way. It's episode 43. Yes. It is.

But can we address the elephant in the room? It's a wrestling card podcast, but how are Minnesota Vikings six and o and the only undefeated team left in the NFL? Last man standing skull. Oh, I don't know. I I don't know.

I mean, let's let's be honest. I'm sure you guys are getting sick of us wearing these on Tuesdays if you're not a Vikings fan, especially if you're a Packers, Lions, or a Bears fan. But, eventually, this is not gonna happen. The streak is gonna come to an end, but we're enjoying it because Yes. Yes.

We never get to a quarterback. We're six and o. First time since 2009. It's just crazy thinking of our 2009 football team with Brett Favre, Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen, and then you have this football team. So night and day.

But we're Yeah. I mean, like, we don't get to enjoy football very often. So It... It's usually pain, and Sunday was painful to watch and watch on CBS like we addressed. But we said it's a good pain.

The stacking slabs bowl twenty twenty six, it was Colts versus Vikings. The Colts are Brett's team. And, Brett has been suspiciously, quiet on text ever since the game started, but, we we didn't lay in all that hard. I I... We we made sure not to trash talk too bad because the Vikings...

The defense is all world, but the offense is all trash. So Mason, what good has returned. I mean, I watched the entire game, so I was, it is what it is. We're six in a row, but we got a tough stretch of games coming up. So Yeah.

And and we'll we'll see how this plays out. Alright. Let's get into the real stuff, the the reason that we're actually here and, get into the opening pyro because I think, like, I'm just like... I was thinking about SmackDown, and I'm thinking about Raw and everything leading into Crown Jewel, which eventually leads into War Games. And these...

This last group of shows, the two that have happened since the last time we recorded, very chaotic, very... I mean, they were fun to watch at times, but, like, there were a lot of things that got called out for a lot of different reasons. We'll go through some of them. But starting off with SmackDown, like, I have been saying for months now, like, what is going on with Blake Monroe? Even more so, what is going on with Julia?

And they went and had, like, a street fight on SmackDown. And this... The, like, the the clip that's everywhere is Blake Monroe checking herself out in the mirror and Julia coming up behind her and literally just throwing her through the mirror, which was a great spot. And I loved I loved the match because these guys have faced off together many times in stardom. They have had a lot of history.

And I think it's a good feud if they could actually get a match on TV, and that's exactly what happened on SmackDown. And I thought it was really good. Yeah. I mean, it's about time we're gonna see some Blake Monroe. And Julia is such a great wrestler, just not being used correctly.

So I hope eventually in the next year, they figure out how to use her correctly. So maybe this could be the start of it. Who knows? But I know this had that, was it, tatanka that got thrown through the glass mere back in the day. That's kinda kinda what I think of when I see this in modern day terms.

So Yeah. I mean, like, I... Like, this... Blake Monroe is a very high level collecting target. We saw when we showed the the, gem rate data a couple months or a couple weeks ago, Julia still sells very, very well.

So, like, we want... I think a lot of collectors are out there, like, scratching their heads. Like, why aren't these guys getting featured on TV? Especially when you see a match like this, they have great chemistry. Everything works out well.

I also wanna touch on two more things or three more things actually from SmackDown, which is unusual because SmackDown is usually a bore fest. KO and Punk, a a face to face at that at that interview was so good and, like, not shocking. KO and Centimeters Punk can cut a promo. They're the best that WWE has to offer that. But I was very concerned seeing them across from each other on a table instead of, like, in the ring sort of trading jabs.

But I thought it was low key enough that it was just, like, the... What they were saying was so good. These two together are magic. They hate each other, I think, on TV. I don't know if they still dislike each other in real life, but at one point, I think they did.

So I don't know if you got to see the interview, but it was No. I've seen bits of p. I know a lot of people, you know, have hated punk for a long time. Maybe, you know, this is a different punk now that we're seeing. You know, maybe realizing the end is inevitable, and why have more enemies out there?

And and maybe, like you said, he's just here for the money. So who knows? Who really knows what quack you're really getting, but he's arguably in the best shade of his life. So, I think the dispute goal with them is great. It's perfect to pivot them because you don't have to have a belt to make this match.

Well, it's gonna be a match we all wanna watch. Let's be honest. Yeah. For sure. Then they they booked last man standing for crown jewel, which is Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes.

I... The match is is gonna be nuts because Cody is gonna wanna do something crazy, and Randy is gonna be happy to put him through whatever he wants to be put through. And there's gonna be blood, and there's gonna be everything that, you know, traditionally adorns a Cody Rhodes, like Hell in a Cell or Crazy Match. And I really hope I really hope that this is better than the last few of these types of matches that they've done because it's just like, at some point, you just can't do anything more. And, like, it's...

It... Like, you're never gonna do rock and mankind ever again, and you don't want to because that probably rattled Mick Foley to a point where he couldn't recover even after the match was over. He had lasting effects through his whole life. Like, so you don't wanna go, like, too crazy, but the fans have an expectation coming into one of these matches. Like, we'll we'll do predictions next week before the pay per view, but, like, what's your thought on Randy being sort of the the the choice of last man standing here?

With his back and his age? I mean, ideally Yeah. I don't think it's great. I'm... I mean, they're professionals.

They're gonna take this, you know, not with just a grain of grain of salt. They're really gonna probably tipper this and train to this, but I I would love to see Randy come out of this match. I don't know. I think he's at point of his career where him letting Cody win's not gonna hurt him. He could still go on to get number 15 at some point down the road because let's be honest.

I mean, how much longer we have Sami Zayn holders built after crown jewel? I don't, you know, I don't know. Like, I... We'll get to Raw here in a second, but I'll I'll I'll have some feedback there. I hope it's not long, but, you know, we'll we'll...

I'll give my thoughts here in a second because I wanna talk about, Roxy Perez and and Chelsea and their match that they had because... Okay. We have two briefcases on the table right now. You have Penta with one, and you have Tiffy with the other. That means that every time you have a physical segment with the champion where the champion comes out on the bottom, not the top, the expectation now is that you book around the So So with the feud that is going on with Roxy and Chelsea having this...

And there are two briefcases on the board right now. You have Penta with one of them, and you have Tiffy with the other one. And the understanding is that anytime a champion is in a physical segment and they're not walking out on top, you have to book around the briefcase. So Chelsea Green and Roxanne Perez have a great match, and, you know, it ends with the typical judgment day bullshit and, you know, whatever. But then you have Roxy and Chelsea and everybody getting into it with Liv and everything.

Like, you have you have to book around the briefcase now. Like, it's just... It is a standard. And you have TIFFY rundown and, like, the ref screws up the cash in. Now, historically, that's a really easy way to get around it, and it's become a meme that you you can't...

Like, it takes them forever to get the match started unless they're gonna actually do it where they can get the match started more quickly. This was even more egregious than usual because Tiffy is like, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

And then the ref is just, like, milking it and milking it because somebody missed their cue. It was really bad. And, like, I think when we get to the discussion of Monday Night Raw, having this happen again for the third... Second and third time was even worse. So I think, like, we've gotta get one of these briefcases off the table, and I'm thinking it's gonna be the women before the men, just because of what's going on with the booking.

But I just, like, I I don't like the briefcase as a gimmick anymore. I think it's become kind of outdated and really sort of tired and repetitive. And, like, the fact that Triple h wants to acknowledge that if a champion is down, you gotta have the briefcase come out. Like, I just... I don't know.

It's just... It's weird. They always find weird ways to, like, get around the cash, and I just wish that this wasn't a thing. Like, it's just it's just makes everything more chaotic and stupid. It's not chaotic and fun.

I don't know what your thoughts are. Yeah. I was texting with you, you know, earlier. The element of surprise is just not there. Like, they...

Just think about, like, you know, with Rollins and his last cash in that he had. I mean, like, wow. Like, I mean, obviously, it was, a curse in the end... In the game. But but, like, such, like, element of, like, oh, shit.

No. Is he doing it? Like, those are the ones you need to have the cash in, not these obvious, oh, coming down and the ref stalling for fifteen minutes. Like, oh, you wanna cash in, you wanna cash in. It's getting old, and I think, like, it's better off just let's forget about that.

Let's just forget... They need us to forget that the actual briefcase is in play. Meaning, like, we wanna get past the briefcase, not think that somebody has a briefcase. That's the best time, in my opinion, to cash you in when you're like, oh, shit. They can actually cash it.

This could actually happen. They're they're kinda ruining it, honestly, but I don't know. Who knows? I... Like, they they they usually either take out the briefcase holder early in the show so, like, there's no threat, or they put them at ringside and they have them attack the the...

Like, it's just... It's worse than the... And and let's move on to Raw now because it's worse than the whole bloodline and and judgment day thing where they always have to get involved. So, like, the the problem with a faction these days is that it's always about the faction when it comes to the finish of these matches, especially if there's a title involved. Like, you have to, like, just do these types of things, and it makes it so hard to suspend your disbelief that this isn't a planned and and whatever situation.

So I think, like, overall, like, they have to figure out, number one, it's one thing when you have Roman Reigns, who is the leader of the the, like, the the the bloodline, and he is awesome at everything except for how to manage his team. Like, that's literally, like, the joke was, like, the the Usos were the lackeys. You have solo and whatever. But everything else about Roman was great. And so when you have these things happen during a match, he can make up for it because the rest of the match is just that good.

Mhmm. Liv, I don't think has that ability. And so when you... Or... And Dom is getting there.

Like, Dom is getting there. Don't get me wrong. Like, he is making leaps and bounds. But I don't think Liv has reached a point yet where she's having these matches where she's the one bringing the other person up. Usually, it's the other person bringing her up to their level, and they put on a great match like they did with Becky on Monday night.

Like, I think, like, that's the challenge with Liv and the judgment day is, like, you have these matches where Liv is clearly the one that's not as good as the other person. And as a result, when the judgment day gets involved, you just, like, you just give this, like, ugh. Will we please just not have it this this one time and just have a clean match? Because the rest of the time that Liv wrestles, it's just... It's not there all the way yet.

So I don't know. That's my... I'm a Liv hater. I know. Self confessed.

But, like, it's just... I just did not like that they are... Keep going to this well over and over and over again. And then you have the cash in try on top of it, which was a mess. It was an absolute mess on that.

I mean, when you... Let's be honest. Whenever you found out that Becky was gonna be wrestling, what were your thoughts? She wasn't winning. Yeah.

I knew she wasn't gonna win. But, I mean, like, they did a good job of making it sound like, oh, that... You know, like, the way they hyped it up, obviously, you knew she wasn't winning. But did it give you a little bit of hope? Well, yeah.

Because I think, like, they had a great match. Like, again, Becky gets... And, like, I'm a Homer. Yes. You can say, Goeman just loves Becky, but I get it.

But look objectively your favorite wrestler, you should be a Homer. I mean, you should be Of course. But look objectively at the match they put on. Like, it was a great... Really great match.

And then they had this say Liv Morgan in a great match in the same Well, yeah. Because her and Becky have great chemistry, and her... And and Liv and Rhea have great chemistry. And, like They do. But, again, it's always the other person bringing Liv up to this level.

If Liv's the one that have to bring the other person along, it's just not as good. And so I think, like, because Liv is just reaching her her apex in a lot of these areas, and she still hasn't figured it all the way out yet. Raquel, even less so. Roxy is still very, very, very young. And, like, she has a long way to go.

I mean, Roxy has what? Like, a a half of the experience that Liv does, but she's only, like, 22. Yeah. So it's like she has a long way to go in terms of maturity. Liv has been around the WWE since 2016.

Right. And it's just like you would expect her to have a lot more of us, but this one wasn't her fault. It was the fact that they did a cash in with Penta earlier on the show. We're just... This is...

The guy... I'm just I'm just bitching overall, but, like, because I thought Ra was pretty entertaining. They had some good matches, but, like, the two attempted cash ins went absolutely horrifically bad. And I just, like... I don't know.

The promo with Sammy was great. I loved Sammy's promo. I thought that was really good. But Jovan just isn't it for me on the mic. I don't know.

It's just... It was a weird raw. I said it early on on Twitter. I've been talking for a lot. I I don't know.

What do you wanna say here? Nothing. You said everything you need to say. You're good, man. It's I I You're beating a dead horse on this point, man.

It's... You were you were texting Brett and I last night just frustrated with him. I was so frustrated last night. I had to feel we were gonna come into this day. I'm surprised we're not spending 45 minutes of you just ranting about this.

I could rant for forty I could rant for forty five minutes. Alright. Let's move on to the card because we got a lot going on. Is it time to retire money in the bank? That's in your last slide.

Is it time to retire money in the bank? It's not. I love it. No. But they just gotta handle it better.

Be better. Be better. Be better. I I think it's a yes. I think it's time to retire money in the bank.

And here's why. I don't think a lot of the people that... Like, they... Historically, they've given it to a very obvious person who's gonna win and cash in, and either they're gonna succeed if... Or they're gonna fail.

They give it to Otis one time, and he just got it. Look how that look how that worked out. So I think, like, if they... They're looking they're looking for somebody to carry this. And I think, like, you know, it's like, okay.

We're gonna do this the right way, and we're gonna put it on somebody who needs it. But then they then they have to... Like, I think it's time to retire. Like, you don't... You can do that so many other ways because now you have you have king of the ring too.

Like, you have king of the ring. Rumble and elimination chamber. There's a lot of, like, guaranteed title shots being handed out. Do you really need the briefcase any further? I like the I like the element of it.

I don't know. I love the money in the bank. I love the fact that you could carry around that briefcase and just cash in any moment, but it's gotta be handled correctly. Okay. I was...

I mean, it's... I was... Yeah. Yeah. I understand it.

I mean, like, people love... Like, I... When it's when it's done right, that, for example, last year It's done right? Was was about as good a money in the bank cash in as it has ever been done. And shockingly, he had the other one.

Yes. He did. So I mean, like... So I mean, like, if you're gonna put as creative That's crazy. Really, really Like, the the heist this century, that was the greatest money in the bank cash in ever, and I don't think anything anybody could do could ever surpass that because nobody nobody saw that coming, especially when he lost earlier than night against Orton and got the RKO of lifetime.

And they're just, like, in this match where Roman's finally gonna do it. He's finally gonna do it. And then all of a sudden, comes Seth Rollins running down. I mean, that's... You couldn't write that better.

That's how No. You you really could. You really could. Alright. So that was a really odd, opening pyro to a really odd couple of shows.

I feel like they'll they'll... It'll be odd because Saudi Arabia is still very much a question mark given all the strife over there. I don't mean they're building the stadium and everything. Like, I was talking to Brandon yesterday about this, and I'm like, what are they doing? Like like, they're putting people's life at risk going over there.

Yeah. I mean, like, if if I were... No. If I were doing it, I'd stay home. And it's just like, I wouldn't go there to begin with, but that's just me.

Alright. Let's get on to some of the the card market high spots because there's a lot to share here, and I think that there's some really, really good stuff. Stadium club has been out now for a while. And I've gotta say, as as much of a a high expectation that I had for this set, I feel like, you and I were very excited going into this. We were very hyped, and it's better.

Like, it's it's better than we expected. Like, it's really freaking good. Is the best rip for the price point in a very long time for a wrestling product, if not any product, in my opinion. It is the best bang for your buck in so many ways. We did three podcast...

The podcast, we did three box preview, and nobody had a... The worst auto was that Dominic Mysterio one number to, like, 99 out of three boxes. Oh, it's such a good... I mean, like, the photos are Photos. The the the design is good.

Come on, dude. Oh, yeah. I put out... Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

I put out a top five photos on Twitter just because I... I've been... I love this. I love photo centric scent. And I...

And photogenic is Panini's vertical stadium club. It's not the other way around. Most wrestling collectors may not have that experience of of stadium club first. But stadium club since 2014 has been a very photo centric, not photogenic, photo centric product. And they picked...

I mean, Steve Pellegrino, who did all of the photos for Panini, now works for tops. And I think he had a hand in some of this, which is shown here in a lot of the great photos that were chosen, but their team is good at what they chose as well. And... But even, like, the designs are good. The the parallels look great.

Like, the beam teams are insanely awesome. And it's just like, you know, those types of things really, really have a lot to add to a product like this, and it makes it it makes it great. It makes it great. So I... You've...

Have you had a chance to rip any? So the case Besides of an home Besides the No. We did the podcast. I brought a case home over the weekend, and we have yet to rip it because of sports and everything else. Now tonight is a possibility.

However, we're carving pumpkins tonight, so we'll see if we actually get into it. I do Spooky season's here. No. We we actually been putting it off, so we gotta... We have no sports in the agenda tonight.

So tonight, maybe depending on what time we get done with pumpkins and everything like that. So Yeah. So I think here's, to me, here's what I think are are really good. We knew the dual autographs were gonna be great. We gotta talk about the one you and I pulled together, talk about insane situations there.

Thanks to Blez for pulling that for us. Yeah. But, like, I think, like, overall, like, even, like, the parallels look great, like... And and when you see the gold minted, you see the the flag parallels, you see all that. Like, you see that they really add us gimmicks, but I see the beam teams now and in the way that they turned out versus the preview photos, just absolutely perfect.

One's... One looks better than the next. Yeah. The beam teams, I'm I'm actually shocked you put a Liv Morgan on here. Are you feeling okay today, sir?

Yeah. I did that on purpose just because I actually... I hit three of the back e's, believe it or not. Oh my gosh. It hit...

Well, at least that one's off the list. So now the beam teams are... We had, solo Sikola get pulled in shop the other day. So it was cool to see one person finally. So beautiful cars.

Yeah. Beautiful cars. Is there anything that you thought was a miss? So the dual autographs, if I'm... Correct me if I'm wrong, they just call them dual autographs.

Right? They're not cosigners, which That to me was a big miss. The thing with Stadium Club going back to the nineties was cosigners. Mhmm. And having the dual cosigners autos, I think by not calling them cosigners, to me, was a miss for what this brand stands for.

Outside of that, I I can't really give it much of a miss. Now do the bean teams have numbered parallels? No. Okay. I think that's something they could've gone with.

That kinda would've been Have they done that in baseball? Like, did they But I think I think it's something you could add the element and add more value to it, but I get maybe because the design of them, it might be a a a... An issue. That's a tough one. That was a tough one.

Tough one, but I don't know. To me, I think the biggest thing was not calling the dual autograph cosigners. That's just being a traditionalist in this doing stand club person. I... Oh, I completely agree.

I think it was a humongous mistake not to call them cosigners, but I think they turned out great. I think my biggest miss are the insert autograph. Like, as... Like, the base autographs look really good. I can see that.

Yep. The bay... Like, the base chrome autograph look really good. And in the parallels, they look even better. Yep.

It's just like... Like, I have the gold Dominic Mysterio, the gold Roman Reigns. Like, we've seen all those. Penta, even when you look at him and the way that he, his photo looks... I mean, like, the base photos with the hard signed autograph, you literally cannot beat that.

We get it in Chrome, and it's just as good in Chrome. Here is where I think the miss is. The concentration autos look awful. The inked autographs, I'm not a huge fan of. Like, all of, like, the main stage looks weird, but it doesn't fit with the I would have much rather had everybody had a base autograph rather than some have this and this and this and this.

It may, like, keep those as inserts, but the whole insert autograph thing just did not work well. Those need to be completely reconfigured. Other than that, breaks, I think some of the the the three autograph boxes, they they... I think, traditionally, if you get a ref. You get a ref.

You get three autos. You get a you get three autos, which is good. I liked seeing Charles Robinson get a signature. I like seeing Jessica Carr get a signature. Like, they they have made personalities out of the refs lately.

And chart... Like, Lil' Nach, like, especially has a history. So, like Lil' Nach. He's one of their longest standing, you know, employees, let alone, you know, personality. So, like, yeah, if you get a ref, usually, you're getting three autos, which is great.

They should definitely do that. But, yeah, I mean, like, I think the NXT guy... Like, some of the boxes get really rough with some of the low end signatures, but you're not ripping this to make money in a lot of cases. And I think my only feedback there is, like, the prices on the secondary market have hovered around 200. They've come down, and then they've gone...

It's kinda started to creep up a little bit. This would be an absolute grand slam at $1.50. And the fact that we're paying 200 a box, it's not horrible, but it could be a lot better. I've seen the prices at local shops even at $2.25 and $2.50 still. It's a bloodbath.

Like, that's... Like, this is such... Supposed to be a collector focused set. And, like, I really want a cheap and affordable accessible wax for this. 200 is...

Like, seems to be the floor for any wax these days, but that's that's just my feedback. No. I think I think $200 is the right price for this. I think, initially, what was online, $1.30, $1.40, something like that. I don't like that.

Yeah. No. I think it's at that price point where you're getting two on card autos. I think the $200 mark is... Where it's gonna hold for a bit, but I think in time, I just see these...

It's $200 in my opinion as a, obviously, a reseller, as a shop, and as a collector. I feel like these are no brainer rip all day. All day rip these at $200. If you can find them cheaper, rip them. Eventually, this stuff is going to dry up, and it is going to go up.

And, again, it could take time, but I don't know. I think it's a lot of work for breakers, sorting. I get that point aspect of it. That's one thing where the breakers might hold back, but the actual consumer can rip this and rip several boxes and enjoy it. And I think I've had a lot of people say they were enjoying ripping stand club this weekend and shop.

They thought it was a great rip. It was a lot of fun. The images look great. I mean, not one person had anything bad to say about it, especially. Point.

Yeah. It's it's... I... Like, we're nitpicking here. This was, this was one of TOPS' best products since they've gotten the license back.

Alright. We got our first look... Well, second look, but the first one was kinda tough tough to see a number of weeks ago. First look at 2027 Topps Chrome. Like, we're crystal clear pictures.

We get to see the the autographs. If you're on Patreon, I'm showing what they look like. Otherwise, go on Twitter, and and Instagram. You can follow me at s c uncensored or at wwe gellman. Steve, who is at Sam wwe, look him up, has posted these as well.

Like, main event has these. Like, if you want the photos of what Topps Chrome looks like... And this is... It's one of the biggest sets of the year. Right?

It's Yep. I'm not it's kinda starts to resets the new year, essentially Yeah. For releases. So So, first off, we're... Most of the the autographs are getting are NXT people because they did it in a recent NXT show.

We got a look at the red brand autographs. We got a look at the blue brand autographs and the base chrome autographs as well. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the first look at the designs here. I could see, obviously, some similarities to other things. Again, I like the super action autos, which were basically inserted into logo fracture this past year.

So I don't know if that's the case again, if they're gonna do that because that was a mania only. If they put these in the regular Topscone brand, I'm all in for it. I like that. I think they should be in there. I don't know.

I mean, look. It's kinda got the same feel like the Adam Pierce. We got the fire in the background. I don't know. Like red.

Yeah. The red ones seem Yeah. But, I mean, like, I'm a little... I mean, like, I like it. I'm a little indifferent, but overall, I mean, I hate it.

I like... I wish there was more action with those, those one photos there, but overall Those will be in hobby. Yeah. So they they did they did the base variation autographs in hobby. They just used the base photo.

So the one that is on the base card is the one that goes on these cards. Mhmm. They... We... Now I'll get on to the next slide here because we did get confirmation that LogoFractor is coming back.

So they are making a LogoFractor version of this product. We didn't get, we didn't get, like, a great look at it, but it it does look like LogoFractor is coming back. The problem is it didn't look like there was a difference in the photo that that Carmen Petrovich who, who signed... Who's... Who gave us the previews on her Instagram.

It didn't look like the Logo Fracture autograph photo was different like it was last year than... Unless she was just... I don't know. It's it's unusual. So that was something that caught my eye that I was like, okay.

That's... That sort of takes a little bit of the appeal out of LogoFractor. But, we did get confirmation, first of all, that we are getting an FDI autograph again. Can I can you address something on FDI real quick? Yeah.

Yeah. They... I hope that they have better autograph selection than FDI this year. I think they lagged a lot of that last year, which They're the only base autographs. Yeah.

Yes. I think they, hopefully, they added more element this year to it because I think that hurt the value of FDI because, you know, you're pulling the FDI parallels, and the autograph selection of them wasn't the best. Let's be... I mean, it has to be It was the base great. Yeah.

Do you had... If you... If they had a base variation autograph, they also had a base FDI variation autograph. So, like, I have a Becky Lynch, you know, there's Roman... Did Roman have...

I think Roman only had blue brand, so he wasn't one. He wasn't? No. He wasn't. No.

There weren't a lot. Yeah. I see what you mean. Yeah. It's very it's very much like I decided not to rip any.

I wouldn't rip some, and then I realized the autograph who you could get. And I was like, I can't justify it. I'd rather rip Hobby or Delight than to rip these because of the potential in those. That's a great point. I guess we'll have to see because, obviously, we won't know until the checklist is released.

But we also did con... Get confirmation that Sapphire is coming back as well. No shock there. So my question then becomes, like, if LocoFractor is going to be a format and Mania is in Saudi Arabia, where are they gonna sell this? I wonder if it's in Saudi Arabia?

Well, I I wonder if it's gonna be a home stand alone thing. It could be... Okay. That's possible. You're talking about New York for Fanatics Fest?

Is that what you're saying? So either fanatic... So they have planned a watch along at Madison Square Garden in the theater, at Madison Square Garden. You know where they did the lion's den match or whatever in, like, way back in the nineties? They are gonna do, like, a watch along there, and I'm guessing there's gonna be some level of WWE world that will be there.

I don't know. And that's why I think this whole Saudi Arabia experiment is a complete disaster, but we'll get... We'll save that for another time. So I think the the idea is logo fracture could be its own. It it easily could be bought as its own.

I mean, like, people will buy the shit out of it. So It was so good. This last year. So It was so good last year. I mean, we talked about how great Seagull is.

That logo fracker was just legendary in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. So we also got, some unfortunate news, at least in my opinion, unfortunate news. I'm gonna go back to the slide here before.

Do you see in the bottom right corner, we got tie dye autographs to two? So Sean Sean Legacy, who is a new, NXT star, has rookie cards. He's He's gonna be signing in this. And he actually inscribed turn the lights off on his card, which is a throwback to the Jon Hamm meme that he uses. But the the tie I added too is from football.

Is that from basketball? I don't... I think they did it maybe in both this year. Been both in this year. Yeah.

It might Yeah. Yep. So it's a it's a breaker's parallel, a delight parallel. I am not a fan of the tie dye over the black geometric because we did not see in any of the lists that were on the sides of the boxes that were shown in these photos, black out of two seems to be gone. And I I I was ready to, like, throw a chair, like, because that's one of my favorite parallels in chrome.

And even if they had made it out of... Nope. Yeah. Even if they had made it out of 10, like, that's fine. Like, get rid of the purple.

Like, why do we have freaking purple? Like, put that as a black geometric. And, which is super unfortunate, because I have all of the black geometrics for Becky. I am... Like, they are some of the most gorgeous cards that were made, period.

End of story. There's no debate. So I was kinda disappointed. Yeah. I'm with you.

I I have both Ortons, both here. So, I mean, obviously, we've got Berets and our RPC. And it's a close thing we're gonna get to Black Finite for what Prism was, and that was a onetime deal. But, man, they've... They pop so beautifully.

They're just... The cars stand out, like, incredible. So it is unfortunate that they're going away from it. I don't know why. I don't I don't know a person I've ever talked to that says, I hate to look at these.

So why are we fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed? Go back to the purple's a 10. Nobody gives a damn about purple's a 10. Figure something else out there. I I mean, we don't need a purple to 10.

Zero. We do not. And is tie dye even... Like, even even in football, like, I I don't I don't understand why they chose tie dye. I never really liked it in select, to be honest with you.

Like They never caught on with collectors. I mean, you just weird. Yeah. I've never been a tie dye guy. I mean, I know what it is, but, yeah, I'm just...

I'm... For what it is, but it'll get me number to two. So Alright. That's... We'll have to see how that plays out.

Golden, launched theircom... Their fall combat sports auction. And to say it is loaded with amazing WWE cards is is an understatement. So I have up on the screen some of the highlights, and we'll... I'll just quickly run through where they stand as of where we're recording.

The 2021 Alexa Bliss SuperFractor Auto PSA ten ten, that 1.5 k, so not a high price right now, I assume it will get higher. The 2015 Alexa Bliss Superfracture rookie autograph, PSA, nine with a 10 autograph. She has a little heart inscription on it. That's at 3.6 k, the $3,600. Both of these cards are...

I... I'm struggling to find a... Another Alexa Bliss card from the previous Topps era that compares to these. I would say they're... I...

Like, you... You've shared the the flawless WWE logo. There's an immaculate logo I think you have as well. I think those are probably worth more than some... Than the transcendent Superfractor, but her rookie Superfractor gotta be her highest selling card arguably ever.

It's it's it's a ghost. It's a grail. I mean, that is... If you want a... That is...

Like, it doesn't get much better. Look at her autograph. Look how... That's an early on autograph. That's early everything.

If you were an Alexa Bliss super collector, this is it. This is your onetime chance because chances are this is going into another Alexa Bliss collector's hands, and there are several Alexa Bliss collectors. You gotta get out there, and you gotta find a way to come up with the money to buy this effing card. That's my opinion. This card is Billy Madison.

Yeah. You are. Off your ass and I'm not. So point being is this could be... I don't think we could ever see it, may never see it as a Alexa Bliss card.

Again, I don't say never, but this thing could go north of 20 easily in my opinion. So the current crop of females in WWE just net... Like, remember, going back to 2014, there were only, like, six people on the autograph check. Yep. Going back to 2015, there were more.

But at that point, like, Charlotte had already had a rookie card in 2014, so they couldn't make the 2015, her rookie autograph. They could just say it's, like, just... It's just her first autograph. So Charlotte has a card in this set. Here's the story of this card because I I followed this all the way through.

Somebody amassed the entire Alexa Bliss rookie rainbow in 2015 when it came out. So, like, there were hardcore WWE collectors back in 2015. My friend Ben Johnston bought this entire rainbow and a bunch of the Charlotte rainbow from one guy. And, he sold it to Matt who is, who's doing his his... A lot of these cards are his, including these two Alexas.

And, you know, it wasn't graded, and it was, like, you know, seeing that the the transcendent came back at ten ten is just enormous. None of those graded at that level very often. They were either PSA eights or PSA tens. They were... There's nothing in between.

So the the the Superfractors been in an Alexa collection for a long time. I don't think it comes up for auction again in a while unless, you know, a repacker buys it or something. But that's a huge card. A huge card because Becky doesn't have Chrome's super fracture autograph. Charlotte doesn't.

Sasha doesn't. Bailey doesn't. Like, all of these... Asuka does not either. Because remember, Chrome was gone when most of the women in evolution was taking place.

So having Alexa Bliss with a first NXT logo at the top of this card is enormous. Then you also have the John Cena, Pink Papa auto from 2015 and from 2016. The '20, just... Oh my god. 2025 and 2026.

The 2025 Cena has a 17 time champ inscription on it. That's only at $1,500. The pink, papa from 2026 only $1,700. Both... The the pink from 2025 is a gem mid 10.

The, the other one is also a gem mid 10. So, like, these cards from from Chrome did not have a high gem rate in '25 for sure. Definitely not in '26. So, like, getting two of the biggest autographs in the set in a PSA 10 is humongous. Yeah.

This is crazy. All this right here in one shot. One shot. When does this end? Do we know the exact date?

Thirty days. So it's, like, a month from now. Yeah. It's, like, a half off date. This is gonna be interesting because this is arguably, in wrestling card terms.

We've never seen so much of these quality type cards get ended at one at the same time. Usually, it's like months or years we see several. Like, this isn't one batch. This is not over the next year. This is one batch, and I'm just sitting here thinking, which one do I wanna go for?

Because I'm gonna be a player in some of these. Why not? I mean, this is... These are all true collector cards. And if you want one in your collection, this...

Unless it's going to somebody who wants to flip it, it's it's now or never type cards. Yeah. So, actually, the one... The... Besides the last card I'll talk about, the one that's at the highest price right now is the Cody Rhodes 2025 super factor base variation autograph where you inscribe story finish.

$7,500. Then there's also the Undertaker one of one autograph from, from royalty, which has, like, a a laundry tag from a hat, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, really, really awesome stuff.

But the true gem of this auction is a 1999 rock comic images autograph, which is the only pop one PSA 10. And I'm just I'm just floored. Like, I I didn't think we would see this card again. I haven't seen this card before. I I searched.

It sold twice at, like, $600 back in, like, 2015 or 2016. Now already at $12,000, I think this could get close to 6 figures. This is... I mean, if anybody knows these cards, they're not in the best condition whatsoever. The back of them are just...

The edges are chewed up, mangled. So this is insane to actually see a 10 of any of these cards, let alone the best one in the set to get. It's gonna be big. And not only that, but if they graded the autograph, they didn't. But if they graded the autograph Might this one a 10.

Might a 10. This was... I think it's an eight or a nine, just because there is some streaky points if you zoom in on it. But Yeah. I can't see It is looks good.

It is... Yeah. Yeah. It is very high quality rock. Rock has all sorts of autographs in the set that go every which direction.

Some of them are completely faded. This one is bold. It is strong. And the cards... Oh my god.

This is... I I said... I I emailed Dave Ammerman at gold, and I was like, listen. If you guys haven't put any marketing behind this card, you need to because it's. Alright.

Let's get on to some big sales here because I wanna talk about this one specifically. This is the Roman Reigns 2026 stadium club flag parallel. Going into this release, Slabsquatch, who does all the breakdowns of all the the the odds and sort of articulates print runs to the best of his ability, handicapped these cards at three copies. I've confirmed that they're not three copies. There's more than that.

But because people have latched on to these, breakdowns rightfully so, they're... It's great information. I have nothing against that... Lab Squad. Follow him at waxmetrics on Twitter.

Guy does great, but it is straight on. It is not printed. It is not QC. It is not everything. And for what everybody needs to understand is when tops generates the odds sheets, it's done by a different team that...

Who actually builds out the products and stuff like that. So they're given a list of cards, and they're required to publish these odds either on the packs or separately. They chose separately most of the time. And these ones are one in about 80 boxes. Have you seen one pulled on...

In any box in your shop? Not yet. No. They're insanely tough. The Roman Reigns sold on eBay for $5,000, give or take.

And... Yeah. That's more than I thought a super factor would go for. So somebody obviously made a judgment call on this card saying, I want this, and I want it badly enough that I'm gonna buy for $5,000. As a result, we've had The Rock, John Cena, Hulk Hogan.

Everybody's posting theirs at 7 to $8,000 now, and none of them have sold, at at least at the time of this recording. So as much as somebody wanted this particular Roman Reigns cards, everybody who has latched on publicly, nothing is sold at this level. I think this was vastly oversold, but it's a great card. I mean, don't get me wrong. It looks awesome.

But it is not, like, my expectation was that it was not gonna be a $5,000 card. Something No. Something went absolutely off the deep end here. So as you guys are buying these and a lot of them are surfacing, I've seen a Becky pulled. I've seen Randy Orton pulled.

I've seen a lot of different superstars have these pulled. I don't think they're $5,000 cards, guys. Yeah. Unless you plan to go through the set and your convincers only three of them and you did not wanna run the risk of not getting it. But it did was set a...

I wouldn't say a false market, but it's really hard to believe that these are gonna continue to do thousands and thousands of dollars when they're not even serial numbered, let alone they're saying there are three. You're saying, obviously, you've proven that there's more than three. There has to be more than three because they're, like... I I mean, have you all been Bridge is three cards. Yeah.

It's just You know? So they... You mean, maybe 10? Maybe five? Okay.

10? Alright. Well, but how would the $5,000 just doesn't make any sense to me unless somebody is dead set on this is their set. But all you did was, if that's the case, was cost yourself way more money on every other wrestler in this product. So another time where this happened was the Pluto cards from the Planetary Proceeds.

Yep. Mhmm. Waxmetrics handicapped them at two copies. I can guarantee you there is more than two of of most of the wrestlers. I'm guessing for both of these, including the tie dye ones that are retail versions of these, tie dye again.

Here we go. I believe there's more than three copies. I I... There's probably between five and ten. So just...

And the way... If you if you print a card, you've seen a printing sheet of cards across a row is the top row is usually five. Yeah. So, like, when you when you look at the way the cards are printed, printing three offsets the printing in a really weird way. I don't think there's three copy.

But I've confirmed with Topps, there... There's more than three. So just keep that in mind. Here's another really big stadium club sale, and this one is so awesome. This is the Trick Williams one of one super fracture autograph, whoop that trick inscription.

Topps highlighted this card in a video when they did the signing. It sold for $3,500. Really awesome to see Trick getting his due. But even this, very high price for this card. I was shocked when I saw.

Yeah. I would think maybe around the 1,500 to $2 range, but, you know, you pulled at the right time. Product released, and it was pulled same day as released, if I'm correct. What best time to, you know, get top dollar when eyes are searching like crazy and everybody wants the new hot thing. So Yep.

Yep. Good call. One more, stadium club sale here. This is the Drew McIntyre. Because, again, this is another thing that I think was kind of a weird thing with stadium club.

Not everybody had a chrome autograph. Some of the autographs were base. Some of the autographs were chrome. Mhmm. And some of them had none.

So, like, there wasn't... Like, Drew McIntyre doesn't have chrome autographs. He only has the base ones. Roman Reigns only has the base ones, not the chrome ones. Obafemi has chrome ones.

It's it's really weird. And... But Drew McIntyre saw his pictures and said praying for it, then it happens and and as his description sold for $2,000. I... This is Drew Mac...

One of Drew McIntyre's highest selling cards is out of WrestleMania patch autograph. Awesome looking photo, awesome card, great inscription, $2,000. I mean, it seems about 50... I I was getting a guess 1,500 ish, but, you know, people like to buy these inscriptions. They chase these.

Right? Yeah. Shout out to the owner. I know who bought it. I'm not gonna say their name right now.

Let them do their thing. But we were talking about this card when it surfaced. I sent him the link. We started talking. Obviously, I know he probably wanna get a little bit less, but I think he realized...

I kinda... I I... As I kinda... I might have put... I might have nudged him just to pull the the trigger on it.

Well, I can't remember what I said to... I was like, just just do it. Just buy... I mean, what's what's saving a little bit? A couple $100 in the car like this that I know will eat at you if you let it walk?

So I'm glad that this person bought it. Again, I don't wanna say anything until they post it in hand, but congrats to this person that is now the owner of it once they have it in hand. It's, to me, it's an awesome card, great inscription because you know who who it's going for towards. So that's the best part about this subscription. I think for for stadium club, there's gonna be a lot of high comps coming out of the great...

Out of the gate. Unique cards like this always sell. I... Like, $500 in the long run here isn't gonna mean much, especially if you have you have $2,000 to spend on a card. You have 1,500 to spend on a card.

Nope. Not much of a difference. I wouldn't beat myself up over $500 on a card. Like, oh, sorry. One more.

So Danhausen had his first autograph in stadium club. This was news that Tim Trout broke on the podcast here. Mhmm. They are redemptions. They are chrome autographs.

The super factor was actually pulled, day one. But the first of the base, versions of it sold for $350, via best offer here. I think two of them sold at $3.50. Is that about where you expect? Or Yeah.

He had AW autos, and, obviously, they've gone up tremendously since he's come over and made a name of himself. So it's crazy to see that without the autograph, you know, being a redemption, without it knowing what it's gonna look like as far as the autograph goes. But you gotta assume it is his first autograph in WWE as Danhausen. These are gonna bring big money. And when they're live, they're gonna bring even...

Probably gonna bring a little bit more once they're live. And I I mean, I gotta think that they maybe have them. They just couldn't get the pack out in time. Yeah. He was a late add.

He was a late add to the new sign. Yeah. He's a late addition. So, again, they probably had... Just couldn't get to the pack out in time.

So I would assume that these start surfacing fairly soon if that's the case. They they they... The signing is done. I know that because I've seen a picture of a WrestleMania patch autograph, so he's signed. I'm guessing he's probably signed in the middle of this.

Yeah. Okay. A couple of others. This is a rock, 2025 tops chrome, red refractor autograph BGS nine ten. Pretty high quality rock signature for these days, nine...

Or I'm sorry. For $8,000 via best offer on eBay. These cards, this is not a PSA graded, which I think is a ginormous mistake. Do not grade your big hits with other braiding companies. Take your time.

Braid them with BSA. If you're gonna sell them, grade them with BSA. Do you read this guy's listing when it says b n? I know. Yeah.

I do. It's Panini. Yeah. It says Panini at the end. Panini.

His best auto exclamation point. I put Panini. Panini. Panini..panini. Just to make sure just to make sure it comes up in the searches.

The keyword spamming all to hell. I just, like, I just grade your stuff with PSA. Take the... If you're gonna sell it, like, grading with BGS is a mistake in the... In a card like this.

But $8,000 is still a big number. I think they've routinely sold around 3 or 4,000. Reds maybe in the 5 or $6,000 range. So good good sale for Roc. I'd probably When Roc finally fulfills all his outstanding redemptions with tops that are out right now, we're gonna see the Roc Autos that have kinda gone back up.

They're gonna correct themselves again because there's gonna be more in the market because everything at this year that's been a rock hard redemption is... I mean, those... They're all gonna come back at once. A lot of them. They're gonna come back at once.

It's gonna flood the market, and I think they're gonna drive them down a little bit. The Xavier Woods WrestleMania patch autograph is the card sold now? Three? Two or three times? I think twice.

I don't think three times. I... The person who who bought it, I think, is gonna keep it. He's a collector. K.

$3,500 via auction on eBay. He's already posted it on Instagram. And, you know, like, hey. If this... If the new day is your your group, then by all means, like, go go nuts.

But I think, like, you know, this is probably one of the floor ones. Like, this is floor. Him, Ivar, Kofi, Eric, you know, those types of guys. Those are those are floor cards, and the the floor is 3,500 on these. Still a huge price.

Yep. Probably one of his biggest selling card public sales ever, if not by a significant margin. Here is another one of the triple, yeah, the triple relic logo from Universe. This is Liv Morgan sold for $31.50. I I don't know if this was a legitimate, sale.

I forgot to check the bid history. I think I probably did. I'm guessing I know who got this, but it is a WWE logo. It has x o x o, and then it has live written out in the third relic. These cards are absolutely gorgeous.

And this one, Cena, we talked about last week sold for $5,100. Here's live at $31.50. Yeah. Wow. That's big for not autograph too, but, I mean, it's...

Market's changing. Market's changing. Last one I think I have here. Let me just make sure. Yep.

This is the last one for the week. This is the OSCA cosmic chrome super fracture base autograph sold for $3,000. We talked about the gem rate data earlier in the show. Asuka still sells a ton of cards, and she is a huge name overseas. She's a huge name, me or two.

She's one of the most accomplished women's wrestlers of all time. And, her card's selling for $3,000. Colors on this match her face paint. It's really great. It's a great looking card.

Well deserved, but I just wanted to call this out because chrome cosmic man still selling for for beaucoup bucks here. Yeah. I mean, rightfully so who it is too. I mean, this this is about in line with what her... Some of her one on ones do.

So, yeah, I could see the sale. This, to me, makes more sense than the Liv Morgan sale. It's doing $31.50. It's just like, there's no knock and live here. I'm just like, Superfracture Cosmic Auto, triple relic, one zero one, no auto.

Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Let's, close it out. We're gonna finish probably under an hour again this week.

There is because we've just sort of gone through a ton of sales here about one on ones. There's a lot of them that are produced every year. How should people look at them to determine things like the desirability and eventually the value when they're eventually gonna sell these cards? I've heard a lot of people try and say a one zero one is a one of one, and I'm far from that take. I'm far off the other end.

I'm curious what your sort of understanding is. You're asking me the guy who has a method to his madness. I don't know. I I take a lot of account, a lot of research. Obviously, a lot of one zero ones that I have wrestling come to the nationals.

So there is a lot of work that goes into it to where I kinda private terminal where I fix the Paris value. But, again, you gotta compare apples to oranges. You can't compare a one zero one. Let's use universe autograph one zero one versus a flawless autograph one zero one or a, you know, super factor one zero one compared to, I don't know, a tops now one zero one. You know, you you just it all depends on, obviously, if it's an autograph, is there an inscription to it?

Is it super fracker esque? I mean, there's so many factors that go into pricing one on ones because I deal with this every day on not just wrestling, but in sports cards too. Sports cards is a lot easier to compare other years and everything like that, but sometimes your best bet is to just throw a number on it and hope for the best kinda deal. I I don't know. I mean, it's really a method of my madness, so I'm probably not the best person to ask, but I also put a lot of consideration and time and thought into how I price my one of ones.

Yeah. I I mean, I've I've been a victim of this trying to hunt down rare cards. And, like, people will say, well, look at this comp and look at this comp. And, like, at some point, you know, like, you have to get to a level of comfort with pricing cards that I think is probably the last skill most collectors learn when they come to this hobby. Is, like, what is the most accurate way to price a card?

And, like, with one of ones, it's almost impossible to have an exact comp. But as we've come to understand in other sports and in wrestling, there are a lot of other cards that you can use as benchmarks for almost everything. Like, I have been able to price and and source values... Valuations on some of the most crazy cards that exist. And I've helped people try and price cards as well, and you have all the time.

People come to us all the time asking us, like, what do you think this is worth? It's a... It's it's, like, it's an art. And sometimes you have people that are Picasso, and sometimes you have people that are, like, a five year old with finger pain. Like, it's, like, it's hard.

But I will Use... Go ahead. I'm gonna use an example, but go ahead. No. Jump in with your example because I'm My example is those two John Cena's, I call mister Papagorgios, the Papagachios, whatever.

Okay. They're both PSE tens, but one is first year sapphire with inscription, and it's also, what, vintage John Cena as thuganomics or whatever it is. And the other one is John Cena... Old John Cena, end of his career. I don't think there's an inscription.

So you got to assume that the first year is gonna bring significantly more than the other one in the bidding that goes down. Am I correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be my assumption because of all the outliers that go with the first year versus the second. So I think you nailed exactly kinda where I was going with this. There are layers to an onion. Right?

So, like, you start with the the most obvious layer, which... What is the numbering? The numbering is one of one. K. So now you have sort of the universe, the box that you're sort of putting this in.

Then you go a level down. Who's on the front of it? Right? So if it's somebody like John Cena, like you were just talking about, he has, what, 1,501 of ones. Pardon.

So, yeah, so you have a lot of... You have a big universe still of cards that you're working in terms of consideration for valuation. Then you're taking it sort of into other contributing factors, things like set desirability, autograph desirability, grade desirability. Like, it literally is just peeling away every layer until you can find something that you can genuinely say, I feel comfortable with this price. Eventually, somebody's just gonna say, hey.

Need to tell themselves, is this something I'm willing to pay or not? But when you're looking at values and when we're looking at it on this show and we're calling out big sales, a lot of the times we're looking at things like what set is it from? Is it a debut? What does the photo look like? All these contributing factors lead to...

As collectors, you and I are both collectors even though you also run a shop. What do we wanna know in the cards that sit on our shelves? Like, I have... Like, you guys watch this podcast now 43 episodes. Every single episode, you've seen this shelf behind me.

Like, what makes something shelf worthy to a collector is different, but there are some universals. Right? It's like, does it have a good design? Does it have a good photo? Does it stand out on a shelf?

Like, all those things really now... Really stand out. Most collectors trying to buy a card are gonna try and downsell those things. Most sellers trying to get the card out to somebody are gonna upsell those things. Right?

So you have to really figure out in a negotiating process, like, how this is gonna happen. Hey. Do I wanna pay more because it has an awesome photo or an awesome design or an inscription or whatever It's from the top set of the year versus the guy who's, you know, trying to to sort of go the other direction. So a lot of considerations that we've talked about buying and selling in a hot market, like, buying and selling one on ones is probably the expert level, right, of of, like, experiences in this hobby. Right?

Challenges. There's... We get a lot of ones, you know, come my way for wrestlers that we collect. There's times I'm like, no. I don't want that or, b, that's too much.

And it's just knowing what we deal in, but it's tough. It's hard. I mean, the the thing is I get most time when I talk to somebody like, hey. I don't know. I'm coming to you.

I thought it was worth this, but you've explained to me why it's probably not worth this. So then I I agree with you. I could see why you think it's in this level, and these are the facts you've given me. And I'm not I'm not looking... You know, obviously, I I don't expect, hey.

I want the best deal I can get. I get... I know you and I create a market for the people that we collect. We are sometimes the market on those. So I'm not expecting you to give it away to me, but I'm expecting you to hopefully get around to the market that I feel like, hey.

I'm telling you it's worth this. And I've always said, hey. I'm willing to pay this. If anybody wants to pay more money, by all means, take it because I'm not gonna pay more to get that card out of the door. Yeah.

And I've, you've brought up a really good point because people come to you and I all the time with cards. I've actually turned down, like, more one of ones than this last month than I bought. Like... So, like, there's there's been four or five one of ones that have come into come into my inbox, and I'm just be like, I'm just not feeling that card. Like, funds are limited, especially in a time where they're putting out eight sets in a row.

Yep. Like, I don't and and all this Panini stuff that just landed with everybody. Like, there's a lot of shit flying around right now. I just... I can't afford everything.

And, like, I have to make judgment calls. And, like, if I can buy something for a great price, yeah, absolutely. It's hard to pass that up. But I'm usually able to explain why I like something, why I don't like something, sticker autograph versus on card. Right.

You know, insert versus base, you know, all those types of things. Like, you can go likely plug it into, you know, like, a card ladder and start, like, going down all these different sales. And you'll be able to pick out a pattern, but it takes work. Like, this is a learned skill. And yester...

On last week's podcast, I talked about, like, the hierarchy of products and the the pyramid. That's really important in a lot of this discussion as well. So, like, just... You you... Just because a one of one sold for this much doesn't mean that the next one of one will sell for above or below.

Wait. You mean the John Cena royalty patch or did you win or something? Thousand sold the other John Cena for a 100? Mhmm. Everyone's like, yeah.

Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. But how many times have we heard that? Like, I I get...

So I'll close out with this. Like, I got pitched a super fracture, an insert super fracture, and it was like, well, I want, you know, as much as the base super fracture sulfur. I was like, well, no. Like, insert super factors, especially lesser insert super factors in the hierarchy of sets, like, don't sell for what the base ones do. People collect base super factors, Blake Blake, base black finite one of ones.

They they collect certain aspects of sets because it is the common denominator that everybody gravitates to. But it's hard, man. It's very, very difficult. So I think asking for help from people like Ryan and I is never a bad thing. Don't collect on an island.

Always. Chop. So, yeah, don't hesitate to reach out. We we did it again. Another album.

Again. You know what I mean? That's what I'm doing. Next week, zero because I'm on vacation. I gotta find a cohost.

Gotta find a cohost. I'm on vacation. I'll be going to Florida. I love it. You deserve it.

So I think you're... And Brian told me he was coming to stop him by your shop this week. Can't wait to talk back. Today and tomorrow. So by the time I get off here, he should be showed up within the hour.

I gotta go check my phone to see what his ETA is, but I'll see him today, and I should see him tomorrow. So, yep, this is gonna be good. That'll go down to his neck of the woods next week where he's not gonna be there. So... Yeah.

That's how it works. But It's always how it works. So let's hope we get another Vikings win. Seven and o would be wonderful. I think we're playing the Lions, so it's gonna be a tough tough tough match.

Tough matchup. Tough matchup. Yep. Well, hopefully, we win New Jersey again. Well, you're gonna have...

If we win, you're gonna have to wear yours in honor of me and whoever the coast is gonna have to wear Vikings jersey. Otherwise, it's gonna Yeah. They will. Yeah. We will we will make it happen.

We will make it happen. And with that, we will see you next week, Skolp. Hey, Gulps. See you later. Skol.

It's incredible. I felt like we were just ripping 2026 WWE tops chrome, and now we're looking forward to 2027. And so it goes. This hobby is fast and furious, and the wrestling card community is very, very active. And I'm enjoying it.

I'm enjoying these conversations. We appreciate everyone tuning in and supporting Book to Last. Shout out RBI Crew seven for supporting what we're doing here. Shout out Adam and Ryan. Most importantly, shout out all of you.

Happy collecting. We'll be back again next week with another one. Until then, be well. Take care. Talk to you soon.