it's episode thirty one yes it is we are coming off the national wrestling guard takeover in summerslam otherwise known as this is hangover week folks trying to recover get back to normal however brett and adam how we doing i'm i'm well adam has probably had more of a stretch than i have with summerslam in the mix i feel like i've been digging out all week but the energy is high for me maybe i'm faking it a little bit the spirits are high probably because the energy around wrestling cards in rosemont illinois last week it was just fantastic gotta agree gotta agree man it was i've been to a number of of that of of that experience type of of a convention atmosphere unlike anything i've ever seen before i had the most success there of any show i've ever been to just great to meet the people great to see you guys brett for the second time you know in a in a few weeks but then dakota summerslam and sort of witnessed everything they did on sunday night was even made it like the most epic week of wrestling that i think i've ever been a part of and it's only it's like i i feel like yes hangover i definitely feel like the hangover exists but at the same time like i feel like we're still just on the road to everything that's gonna happen in the second half of the year new set coming out new you know new pay per view sort of setups by wwe that i think are awesome directions that they're heading you you know it's just incredible overall ryan more importantly how are you doing sir so i'm not a day off boys i'm still still going hard no i came in yesterday i will tell you this it was i i so i had to get up early i didn't get home and get to bed till about one o'clock sunday night going until monday morning and i had to get up early enough like six o'clock in the morning because it's my wife's birthday i i wanna have our presents ready get the kids up went to breakfast it's about nine fifteen i go i gotta get my car cleaned because i had so many bugs on my windshield so i'm going through the car wash and i'm not kidding those thirty seconds i'm pretty sure i passed out the wheel for thirty seconds and i was i was brain fog all day yesterday however i got through the day i left like an extra thirty minutes early cooked steaks last night finally got my first really good night's rest last night so i woke up today feeling like myself i'm ready to go i'm here i the it it never stops never sleeps so so we're here we're back at it so i've i've recovered and let's get on with chlorophyll and you and you had chlorophyll more like that yeah you you had probably one of the most epic sales weeks that you've ever had at one of these conventions i think you said to me that you had set some records so congratulations all that hard work throughout the throughout the year absolutely paid off i could see the the hype at your at your booth we're gonna spend a ton of time at the front here so brett can be a part of it just talking about the national everything we'll get into some of the things that you you actually ran into at your booth but yeah it's my wife's birthday today too so that's kinda crazy yeah so we're recording this by the time you get there it won't matter but why birthdays are important wife birthdays are important so let's let's just have a discussion i didn't really put together like a a a true agenda here because i think we're all just gonna riff on sort of what happened to us at the at different parts of the show ryan like just because i think you play an interesting role having a booth there having sort of all the sales buying and selling that you've done like walk me through sort of like what your experience was last week because i got periodic updates but even i haven't heard sort of like some of the in-depth stuff that i'm sure you guys went through over at rbi crew at in that secondary room next to bo jackson's battle arena yeah it was basically nonstop so we have two ten by fifteen but it's bay essentially a a twenty eight display cases full and ten of them were wdb designated however we had back stock and i epically failed i had twenty one two row boxes ready to go and there's three two rows i didn't get to and they were really really really good and come friday a guy's like oh do you have a rock on it i was like yeah we should have five or six out and he's matt turns to me and goes no we don't i go what do you mean he goes you didn't give me any i go oh they're one of those boxes so i priced it saturday morning and they were all gone by sunday so i think we woulda actually done even more if i got to these but they're all great stuff that i'll just piggyback till next year so it was nonstop we sold a lot of wrestling cards obviously blez was one of our bigger buyers they did two blez online they did two big purchases with us over the weekend they came back on sunday and then another rather large one but you know the biggest thing was i i i what we always hear is there's so much wrestling here at this booth like there's so much and it's a it's a year long project and it's awesome to be able to do that we won't be able to dedicate as many cases next year probably cut to eight only reason is is that we're unfortunately have to move spots when you go to the booth lottery somebody could easily take your spot that is a higher priority we will be close we're gonna be set up next to sports car junction next year but we will lose five display cases so you know but again we will still have the great setup but it was just nonstop man i had two guys on it that are very well versed in wrestling and and matt and nathan midwest otherwise known as bsg nickname and my matt one matt two so i got to talk to a lot of people got to buy a lot of awesome wrestling which i'll get to this week however it's get back deal with product deal with business here card shop first and then i'll get to share what we picked up but the atmosphere is wild the amount of people that came over for wrestling was absolutely insane there was more people in it this year than there ever have been in the past man that is so great to hear i mean that just that warms my cockles of my heart right as they say you're cockles of your heart alright i like it no that that's awesome here brett what now you you were kinda camped out for the first two days at least at card ladder recording content how did everything go for you it was great it's interesting to be a individual not behind a booth but who is also working professionally at the event because you get mixed up with collectors which the conversation with collectors were amazing but collectors are there to collect buy sell trade and i it's like i wanna be that person i wanna do that but i also have priorities and meetings and all of those things so all of those things were good and there'll be content that'll be coming out on stacking slabs and meetings to kind of push the brand forward all of those things but the the the the sliver of time i did have to kinda buy and look at cards i just kinda just spend in the same area and i was focused on wrestling cards which was more prevalent than i can ever remember i mean you know i can remember being at the national in twenty twenty one and just like trying to shake trees to find something and it was very different this year in a good way i mean not only were dealers like ryan and rbi crew seven set up with tons of inventory but the it was the home for some of the biggest wrestling cards of the moment there was the john cena wrestlemania patch auto which appeared and is up for auction alongside there for sure yeah alongside you know darius meeting him and seeing the rhea ripley wrestlemania patch otto which was at takeover and then ended up at golden next to the john cena which was a sight to behold but yeah for me it was just the the connections and meeting all the wrestling collectors which i'm sure will get into takeover but man if you if if we do it again next year which i wanna speak it into existence because it was certainly a highlight the thing i was the most impressed of at takeover was the insanity of high end wrestling cards that were in that room that night it was like it blew my mind so yeah man i had a blast and i dedicated all my the the fun nonprofessional moments to wrestling cards and it was awesome that's great yeah i just i mean like just the the the number of wrestling collectors in that room was great we'll get there in a second here but just you like you said like steve pock was there with like all of his absolute nuclear weapons worth of weapons and cards that he had but yeah like to your point like i like i didn't get to spend a ton of time at the show there was just a lot going on i got there early on thursday got to walk around a little bit on thursday got to go to brian thc sports cards booth who had just some of the most insane wrestling cards from flawless and stuff like that and then going to ryan's booth and seeing all the insane stuff that he had laid out i mean it was like it was like being in toys r us as a kid and and like you go to one toys r us and the next door there's another just as big toys r us full of wrestling cards it was unlike anything i've ever seen before and just being able to sort of peruse there and and like it was like a gathering spot like you said so like it wasn't just that like ryan and and brian and thz had all this stuff in their booth it was like every other wrestling collector at the show was hanging out around there so you got to see everything going on as it was going through and just like connecting with with everybody around that was was so incredible i i've always said for the national convention is more about the people in the than the cards this year it was kind of like i didn't expect it to be about the cards for me because i rarely find anything that i don't already have i bought you know like stuff there that from deals that i had prearranged and i sold some stuff to to to rbi crew and and ryan's team to to fund that i sold some to brian to fund that like it was just so much fun wheeling and dealing takeover just added that exclamation point got to meet some new people too so like that was cool like when you when you're pulled aside in the aisle and they're like hey kelvin i listen to your podcast and blah blah blah like that's that's the best feeling in the world right like i'm sure ryan you had people walk up to the booth and and sort of talk to you and sort of highlight how what they what you mean to their collecting experience like that was a moment for me probably six or seven times during the entire show where i was having fifteen twenty minute conversations with people i'd never met before and they were just like hey like you've inspired me to do this or your podcast really helps me to navigate x y or z so that was really really cool yeah it's it's an awesome feeling it's you know obviously you know as many years we've done this now you know i i basically had the staff there to help people and i want to talk to people you know and obviously i have meetings to step away from them and you know one morning i forgot to price all the one on one so i just stayed behind and didn't get there till like two one day but it's a great feeling and the amount of people are like we love listening to podcast and and i did a big deal with jordan taylor awesome guys been a customer for years he had his family with them bought an awesome wrestling lot i actually showed you brett some of the pictures i think i showed you too adam he actually says he loves the podcast even his daughters came over and they're like just so you know our dad absolutely loves you guys' podcast so shout out yeah they were at takeover at that point yeah that's so awesome to to hear that it's a great feeling and it just it's what it's about it's i i love doing the show to see the people it's it's seeing people in the hobby friends that the friendships that i get to make for lifelong friendships bringing people together for things we're passionate about and again i i kudos this as much as i do other sports to collect everything there's nothing like the wrestling card community they're just the best people they look out for one another i looked brian thc actually had couple randy orton walk up to his booth flipped into me wouldn't let make a dime off me i kept i was like well then i'm gonna buy something else here you know i gotta i gotta hook you up and it's just the amount of stuff that walked up is cool and i gotta i gotta do a shout out here to the story real fast i got this picture here of troy and tim holding those booklet attitude arrows real quick story and i had one parker pulled three years ago three of the redemptions twenty five we got one twenty twenty three immaculate attitude era twenty five or is it fifteen signature or ten signature booklets whatever it is yeah something like that i can't remember ten twelve something like that i can't remember so parker pulls three keep one we sell one to james goode and then i bring one to the national neil does a post i had no idea he did a post posting our one case and that was in there so tim sends me a text that night or the afternoon he's like hey how much is the booklet it's hard to see i tell them how much it was he said okay i'll come by then troy text me two hours later hey i'm interested in that booklet and by the way they're friends this is a cool story so i tell troy i said hey he's like will you do some trade and i said i'm down with whatever but let me give tim first crack he asked about it so tim comes over and we do our big deal he gets some other stuff and while i'm there a guy is like hey that booklet i was like yeah it's it's already spoken for we're doing a deal so we finish up the deal the booklet's gone this guy pulls me out he goes hey can i ask you a question i was like what he goes would you be interested in another one i said sure so he goes i i know you i've met you before blah blah blah it was really cool so i buy that booklet from them so i have another one now to replace so an hour goes by i finally get come to and i'm like i better call troy so i can't make this up so i go to call troy and he's not answering i'm like okay i look up and he's just standing at my booth looking at me smiling and i'm like okay like well you your ears must have been reeking because you're here i go i got some good news and bad news and he goes oh tim got the booklet i said yep he goes alright i go but i got another one he goes what i said i can't make this up one walked up to me as i was getting rid of that one so him and i did an awesome trade and i added cash he did not realize i was a seth rollins collector as well he had pulled the cactus jack from last year from hobby cactus hack super base one zero one i got that from him and some other stuff so really cool story to see them with that booklet doing that they both got it for me one out of parker's hands essentially kind of and then one that walked up at the same time so that's what that's just so cool to just have that moment with those two guys who are also really good friends yeah so just to give them an additional shout out troy from wax culture wrestling card takeover sponsor and tim bonito from card vault by tom brady wrestling card takeover sponsor i got to hang out with him for a few hours after summerslam they are the best guys they troy helped tremendously in getting the the event set up bought us pizza like i mean the guy was just the glue of of wrestling card takeover setup he was there the whole night mhmm closed it down with us tim was there the whole night with like i mean you can't say like he had other stuff that he had to do and like he said i'm purposely avoiding that so i can be here to take over but that was really cool it's awesome great guys and i'm i'm a raving fan of both of them so me too awesome to see there's a wrestling wrestler specific nugget that i wanted to toss out there and just get your feedback because we haven't talked about this but there was several times where i was at the rbi crew seven booth or i was at with brian and sometimes i just like to meander i like to listen to what people are asking and the questions and to me the name that i heard a lot just asking and it was higher end and i also heard do you have anything of this guy for a hundred dollars or less but it seemed to me that at the national there was a hunger and desire and it could probably i think i know this is going i know what to do with the weekend but man it was obafemi obafemi obafemi all day all weekend long we left with this many obafemis we left with not one obafemi card everyone sold he was the hottest name for the week obviously i bought a bunch of them yeah like i bought some for brian like every obafemi we had yeah yeah obafemi was in demanded at wrestling card takeover he was in demand at the booths and brett you nailed it i know you bought some i bought some yeah like we all we all walked away very obafemi heavy in in obafemi benefit benefit of getting there on wednesday because i saw the flawless base in brian's case he had the the the base he had the the ruby and the emerald and i i knew when they were staring at me in the face i was like these things are not gonna last probably past tomorrow so i i better do i'm surprised they let they made it to set up past set up and and we'll talk about this in the big sales but the one of one flawless gem sold during the show as well on ebay so there so that one it will get there eventually i before we get to the john cena because i wanted to spend a couple of seconds talking about that and rhea ripley with darius who man can i give a shout out to darius as well we're not to take over yet that guy brought so much life into the room any room that he was in that guy lit it up he came over and we were talking about the rhea ripley and he's like listen i have this for you and he gave me a gold refractor autograph of becky lynch i'm like darius i i don't wanna take this from you like please like let me give you some money for it or something and he's like no i like i want you to have it and just gave me this this card and i was just like floored by like his generosity and i and like he's just the the best sort of representation of what this wrestling community is all about and like during takeover like everybody wanted to see rhea ripley he took pictures of it with literally everybody which i thought was the literal coolest things because he deserves every minute of it but and then then to see him consign it with gold and he's gonna get a record price for that card hope he does insanely well we'll talk about it here in a second but just wanted to give darius just a huge shout out because he made that weekend so much more happy for me i know you've shouted him out several times adam but we gotta shout out steve as well just oh my god yes absolutely so i know he helped a lot with the event but when i when the pizza came from troy this was one of my favorite parts of the weekend before this the calm before the storm troy brings in the pizza i'm like you're the pizza man shout out like you rock i was starving and i just sat and ate the pizza while steve let me go through his incredible rhea ripley collection so i was like this is what i wanna be doing right now eating pizza looking at just absolute stunners so shout out steve as well steve steve was my personal mvp of the weekend just because he not only brought all the energy similar to what darius did but i had a bunch of stuff that i had to do on thursday they're not gonna talk about publicly yet we'll talk about it when it actually goes live and steve was and his wife is so amazing like i can't even say enough good things about and if you're not following sam wwe stephen a mock that's why sam we need that have we sam we need dude helped so much you know just helped me out helped the the the party out like everything was just made better by steve being there i was so busy i couldn't capture any content like i was doing some work and doing some other stuff and steve was and his wife were literally going around making sure everything was captured all the film all the stuff out even outside the party and that was just so helpful so my personal mvp steve and his wife i i just can't say enough good things there follow him on twitter and on instagram he deserves a shout out follow darius i hit big two on on instagram as well two of the best in the business overall and not saying everybody else isn't but you know they they just stuck out let's talk quickly about john cena because when we were recording brett and i on tuesday we were saying like i wonder what's gonna happen that we're gonna come back today and talk about i don't think either of us knew that john cena was gonna the the wrestlemania patch autograph the biggest wrestling card potentially of all time was gonna fly under the radar for a number of weeks from what i had been told be graded at the show and end up in golden's like auction showcase without any fanfare without any camera of it being pulled without anything it literally just showed up and everybody lost their shit like we were like what is going on here brett what was like when you heard that the scene was there because i think you were there the day before i was like what was your reaction to that my reaction was i need to go see it as quickly as possible just as a fan of wrestling cards and a fan of john cena what a story for the national i love the fact that it there was no publicity it was kind of under the radar and then just showed up at the national i just think what a cool story what a moment for wrestling cards maybe we go back to maybe the size of this card i would love to get your perspectives i mean we measure the value of cards through a lot of different things obviously the subject on the card matters we like autographs we like you know event used materials this cart we like one of ones this card certainly has all of those things i know i i made it a point to talk with some people about his retirement the end and i might or might not have let the cat out of the bag that when he walked out shoeless there might have been a tear or two in my eyes as mine's after after that saturday night's made a bit and then we got to relive it in unreal and i was like i got emotional watching it on real because i was like we get a do we have to do this again so there's like all of these emotions these moments like john cena obviously is an undeniable all time great i the the period in the market right now is very very strong this card has all the elements i just i wanna get your perspective like where does this card stack up when we're talking about biggest best wrestling cards there ever has been like what are you guys thinking about this one i really i mean i think it's gonna shatter the rock black i think we're at a different point now there's more eyes this is a big name obviously being last wrestlemania obviously wins number seventeen this is gonna shatter the rock i really do i think there's gonna be some big time players in on this card we know cat's already one of them but do we get mister wonderful in on this do we get out of logan paul does he bid with somebody else i can tell you right now i may put my hat in the hat in the ring there and give it a go i don't anticipate to win it but it'd be kinda cool even though i'm i'm a i'm a orton guy one but again i think you're gonna see something insane i think it's gonna be fun to watch this one and the ria as well since they're gonna run them together but i just i don't see how this does not go well well over a hundred and fifty thousand dollars with the potential buyers and you gotta remember we're gonna see people jumping into this space that are in other sports that don't collect wrestling because it's the john cena name because we're in the go element of the hobby now we're going to see people who don't collect wrestling let's be honest i really wonder who won the stone cold rock because that's topps chrome at super could have been some guy who collects basketball for all we know that's like oh the goats at superfractor first of its kind this is a first and last of its kind this is going to honestly be the highest selling wrestling guard in history to date when it sells mark my words stamp it yep i think ryan ryan nailed it and steve and i got to tape with it so we started a trend i feel bad i'm sorry i'm reach i'm just say this i'm sorry to the golden team we we i talked with ken golden at the booth and i was like hey you know it would be great you know what what i represent in the wrestling community it would be great if we could take the card out and do like a quick reel with it or whatever and he was like yeah sure like they'll unlock it and i'll get it out for you we came back they unlocked it we recorded it and then literally there were like five to ten other people that all did like pictures and stuff with the card and so i'm sure they just kept the key in somebody's pocket that was walking around the booth because like there were like so many people that took that card out and i love that that just represents how much interest there is in this card and how many people wanted a piece of history and just being able to hold it and take a photo with it i think that's so cool seeing that we also have the rhea ripley running in the same auction there's just gonna be a ton of eyes on wrestling cards and i wrote about it on main event wrestling cards today just talking about like how this is gonna impact our space going forward because even if it doesn't sell for the record both of these cards together are in once one auction is just apps i i i put up on the screen that you know it's it's the biggest wrestling card auction of all time and thank you liv morgan so i think like you know that's gonna be really awesome to see but real talk in your opinion out of all the patch autos in this set are these one and one a one and one b or one and two like the number one and two yeah i mean do you think i mean like i think punk could do forty to fifty i just i mean cody i think could do sixty ish maybe but i think this is maybe seventy but i think these are the top two ones in the product to get i think and golden's got both of them running at the same time wow yep i i would be surprised after the excitement that we just felt at the national that both of these cards i i would say at minimum a hundred a hundred k at minimum on the ripley and i i i think maybe even double on the cena oh i think we're well over double on the cena i agree i would love to i would love to see he like it's not i like could it get to seven figures probably not but could it get close probably not could it get half i'm that's a possibility right like i think we're we're like we're having people talk about this and it will be to me like if it goes for like less than a hundred thousand dollars for whatever reason like i just feel like that that that would be i know but that would be like a huge disappointment right so like i think because we're feeling that anything under six figures is a disappointment that just shows how much ceiling there is on this card but you know i don't know who pulled it i don't know how it got to the show i don't have any information i was told it was pulled in a case a couple of weeks ago they were planning on bringing it to the wrestling or to the to the show to get it graded and put in this auction with golden like all of that was done ahead of the show and it's just like that's shocking to me it's it's there it's one of those cards that just showed up out of nowhere and and there are people who are still chasing it in brakes too which i i think is interesting that you know they they didn't have that information going into those brakes but they have still spent three thousand dollars on a spot or whatever but either way like this has the potential to redefine the expectations of what a wrestling card could potentially be worth and anytime that happens whether it's the hogan that heritage did or the rock black like anytime that happens it just sort of resets our own internal clocks of like oh i pulled a car it could be an eighty five thousand dollar super factor that sells because it has the rock and stone cold fanatics definitely presents a lot of those opportunities and what we just saw at summerslam with roman reigns wearing a patch on his pants for the first time imagine what that card's gonna do like in you know in one of the best matches of recent memory like he's wearing a patch and the same thing with john cena setting a record or jey uso winning his first title or any of the other huge things that happen at these events so dynasty is gonna come out and they're gonna have these summerslam relics there like summerslam isn't a small event either it's not the super bowl but maybe it's like you know a a winter sort of battle between the chiefs and the ravens or something i don't know but e either way like that was really cool to see being able to hold the card was cool i wanna because we only have thirty minutes left and i know this is gonna take a while let's let's talk about takeover okay thirty minutes left probably for brett how much longer we go with me today buddy at least at least three more hours are you ready for we're going broadway on this like imagine flair with his sixty minute wrestling matches that happened like we're going triple that alright anyways so takeover friday night it was at the embassy suites we expected we we had enough room for for like three hundred fifty people to come we bought a a lot of shirts three hundred fifty yeah we bought three hundred fifty shirts they were all gone we had a room filled with i would guess probably four hundred people minimum there was standing room only and like it was absolutely incredible all the work that the three of us put into this over the course of the six months leading up to it was well worth everything that went down we did some incredible giveaways we did we talked i i mean i had more conversations like ryan always talks about he loses his voice at the national like i my throat was like i could very difficult at the end of the night because i was talking basically the whole night but i you know when we did the original one like you know i said it was the best night of my collecting career this is even further above that just because of what it meant to the community and how many people were there and all the amazing conversations i had and just i forged like i would say like coming into the event like i knew what was the wrestling card community was capable of i walked out of the event like with better bigger relationships with just people that i've just talked to online because we had that experience together i mean you mentioned troy and and tim from from wax culture and card vault stephanie from mama breaks was there humongous thanks to to eddie for filming as much as he did he just sent us the reel of sort of some of the clips that he put together i didn't get to take a single picture with you guys i didn't get to take a single picture with anybody i walked out of the the the event with an empty phone and thankfully there were so many people there taking pictures and covering the event i felt good that it was at least you know memorialized for posterity's sake because i don't have anything of my own and seeing what eddie sent me this morning and what we just posted on instagram like i'm glad that that stuff exists because i was too busy sort of having fun with the collecting community to really experience it and and take the photos and do all that stuff steve took a bunch of photos everything it was just so cool overall i'll let you guys weigh in because i'm sure i'll react to sort of what you guys are saying but i don't have much else to say other than thank you to the community for showing up thank you to the community for showing out and just showing us the power of what wrestling cards can mean to the national yeah i think it's it was a pleasure to be a part of it there were so many kind people people who said thank you for doing this which is always awesome to get recognized there were on my account there might be might have been more but four wrestlemania patch autos you had the aj styles you had the ria you had the ray phoenix ray phoenix and el grande americano which is crazy steve had his twenty two black prism roman reigns which i was just like i i was going for that when he park yeah shout out diamond card collector yeah he had the finite roman finite i mean the cards were just insane you had some big transactions happening i heard you i i talked to and heard from individuals who weren't going to the national but just drove specifically like five people yeah someone said they drove ten hours just to be there and they weren't going to the national which is awesome and then i'll just say this like this is why i love in person and why i love events like this like stacking slabs is really built and organized around activating specific pockets in the collecting community and the i just got validation for the approach that we're taking here by an event like that i think about like a conversation i had in connection with just josh luber like never we've maybe traded a couple messages over time he was there for a while he was there for a while i had a long conversation with him he talked about like his interest in wrestling cards and you know talked about his brand but he was just like so nice to like break down the digital front that we're all behind constantly and just like meet people one to one and talk about cards and wrestling cards in the hobby and the industry it was just very very very very exciting adam obviously i gotta give you some roses just you worked your ass off in making this all possible you were just a beast and we're all better for it so i i it was just a hell of an event man i've over exceeded my expectations is an understatement yeah and and first off you know for the record i apologize i i i was there i got there late but i shut her down i shut her down i had a dinner with one of my distributors i've done for a very long time and and she had i think i got her to get ten of my staff to go i kinda had to be there i i i asked her to push it back a little later and she bumped it up so i apologize to everybody that i get to talk to during that time i'm sure most people stop by our booths i chatted with but i was there later it was awesome just to go there and chat with everybody hear how packed it was you got me on record right now i'm gonna have to give her the double bird next year and say sorry i can't come to your dinner i've been doing this for years with you i skipped it one year for an arresting event and she gave me a hard time about it but i'm gonna give her a heads up once we dock it again as long as we get approved by the national committee but i can't thank again adam and brett enough adam you were a rock star with this you ran with this you you got it all the room set up you know obviously we handle the back end stuff to get it done brett the promoting everything you did on your end great job to these two you know caps off gotta give credit to neil neil was on it with the shirts with the the awesome yeah huge we got our shirts done by one of my guys locally they they turned out great i'm wearing one right now this is actually this is actually frank's shirt see frank if you know billy madison but it was so awesome to see what i did see and hear what i heard and just knowing that the shirts were gone instantly the amount of people when i woke up in the morning the amount of instagram tagging stories faking us oh my god it was thirty eight and i was like guys i'm gonna be a while to get there i have a lot to re repost and read and it was just such such an amazing feeling to know that adam knows this we're the first ever one went to which was main event to what it is now was wow it was like i don't know going wrestling like in a in a gym to go into wrestling at madison square garden i guess it's a great way to really put it and again thank you to everybody that came out supported the magic was in there that night the cards were in the air real quick chris here was is holding a couple super factor hours he pulled from the national exclusives he had pulled the randy orton super auto at the event the great story yeah oh wow let's go let's go sorry one of my good my kids baseball teammates and coach who coached my kid his birthday's a game of free box of cards so when they came in to give it to us pull like a ten way booklet in ottawa oh my god wow so he's just like showing me so sorry because i can look through the list but where was i going jeez i go inside chris chris chris so yeah so my phone started blowing up as i'm at this dinner so then i'm like i gotta step away this is this is more important than this dinner right now so i called adam and adam's like here i'm with this chris guy and then turns out he knows me way back in my youtube days so we had some really good stories turns out i get there we do the deal i'm like hey i don't have any cash you gotta tell the story you just can't tell the aftermath what what the that that this card got pulled yeah and so he's so you were so let me tell the the lead up here because your deal was was awesome and the way that this all went down was awesome you can remember better than me i'll leave it at that yeah exactly so so chris bought four of the national exclusive boxes we'll talk about that here in a second i didn't yeah he yeah yeah he he ripped one of them ahead of wrestling card takeover and pulled a becky lynch red autograph so he was coming to sell that card and and to me outside of wrestling card takeover we did that deal he comes inside to the party and starts ripping the other boxes the first box he rips and we're i'm over on the other side like we're getting set up for some giveaways and all of a sudden i hear i got a super i got a super so naturally a hundred people just swarm him as he's revealing this card so he starts pulling the card down from the top and we see the bald head and we're just like oh oh my god and like he reveals it it's randy orton's face i'm like oh my god and then he reveals the rest of the card it's the autograph and everybody's like where's bannister where's bannister where's bannister so we can't mess nowhere to be found but he you got the deal done you showed up and he's a great guy yes he was chris merck does a ton on on social media with his shop he then ripped another box and pulled the j o jayusso autograph super fracture like literally back to back and so that was really cool moment for for the show but yeah finish your story about the the deal because you came in and you had this long conversation with him before the the deal actually got done i talked to him on the phone on adam's phone to him and he's like look man i've been here nothing i know who you are you're a big rainy guy when you get here we'll figure it out and obviously i thought we came to a really good agreement i end up throwing him solruca selects second year of twenty four psa ten in the deal he will he collects her gold to ten he was super pumped he got some money then he came back the last day we talked more he bought some more stuff he was awesome and it turns out he knew some people that i've known the hobby for a long time and he's like dude i used to do this and that so i i mean it was cool just to hear that and he's like i'm so glad i pulled it i love the wrestling card community i'm not a big wrestling guy but i'm starting to get into it so it was great and then of course he was like why people tell me once i told him i did your deal they would have paid me more and stuff he's like i don't care i'm like i don't really know if it's really worth more than what i paid you know but but i was like i'm i appreciate you doing that for me and and it was just so cool to see that happen and then the best part is the super non auto walked up to brian's thc's table the next day both of them and brian walks over he goes i just bought this because he got thrown on ebay i woke up and everybody's like it was on ebay for like twenty five hundred i'm like it's not worth anywhere near that i bought it came over told me what he paid i was like let me give you more nope nope i don't wanna pay anymore i was like i gotta give you more like let me give you more do you help me out he's like nope so shout out to him so awesome i'm actually gonna do a post you're gonna be listening to this come saturday i'm gonna be doing a post this week of me holding that card with chris and the other one with brian and them together kinda just talking about the story a little bit but so it's about it again thinking to everybody at the the rest of our takeover that was like ryan ryan ryan he's your guy and so cool man so cool and funny enough that was not the only time that one of our collecting targets was hit at wrestling card takeover yep so my friend keith steele who has been a a wwe collector for forever like back in twenty nineteen we're talking came to wrestling card takeover he's come to the others as well so he was one of the ogs that sort of came and was a part of this i i would i met him at at thirty eight wrestlemania thirty eight is a at transcendent party like all that other stuff like he's been there forever he has packs you know in the lobby while people are waiting we're still setting up so people are waiting in the lobby and they're ripping packs to pass the time and i was setting up the t shirts with brett and i was setting up the t shirts on this table and then we had stickers and stuff like that and i offered to buy keith's box because i was buying some of the boxes just to rip and have fun and he was like no i i don't i don't wanna sell i wanna rip it and i'm like alright well just let me know what you hit you know let's have a good time you know it'll be great and all of a sudden like i'm watching him rip the packs and he pulls and he's like oh i got a super and i'm like this is incredible like in the as we're waiting to get into the show and he starts to like slide it down and reveal and i see the red hair and i'm like got gotta be kidding me gotta be kidding me i i almost had that box in hand wish you had the box yeah i wish i had that box in hand so he pulled the one zero one base super fracture becky lynch did the deal with me before the party even started so was really happy to get that i don't have the autograph yet i don't know where that is but i'm hoping to get it at some point in the future but keith's a good guy wanna shout him out because we've we've been you know talking for years and years he has the one zero one transcendent that he still won't sell me but i'll i'll hammer it out of his hands at some point and so that's the type of stuff that happens at these parties but that's just crazy that both of those cards were pulled like at or around the party was just insane that's awesome well give me i'm gonna give one last shout out here shout out to the national committee for allowing this yep i was getting there have wrestling oh then go ahead go on with no no let brett before i have i wanna do that at the next okay good i wanna make sure we got that covered i don't know what the slides are ahead you know no i know i know go ahead brett burgundy you put it on i'll read it come on there's a a story quick story that i wanna share because as we're talking through it it like flashback in my mind but i also wanna thank josh calder card collector yes who he showed up and he just came up to me and we followed each other for a long time he's a big wnba collector and i was like oh you're here and he was like yeah he's like would you like to buy my twenty twenty five centimeters punk black geometric and i just go are you married to the price on the sticker and he goes nope and i go i made him an offer he goes it's yours and it was like nice married to the price yeah so we got a deal done so that was great but dude i have to this i just can't stop thinking about this and so there was a fellow and i did not know him but i learned obviously met him at the show rage port twenty eight who came all the way from germany yeah yes he did he came with the aj styles wrestlemania patch and i i i'm not gonna mention any numbers because i don't know what's happening but one of my favorite moments steve diamond card collector made him a i thought was strong offer on the card it was a very strong offer yeah and he just he just looked at him and he was like do you have an instagram and he was like yeah and he gave him the instagram and he was like okay and he like walked away and i was like oh man this kid is just playing hard to get with this card but it was just like steve after he left steve and i just looked at each other steve was just like blown away by like this kid's presence but i don't know if they ever struck up a deal or a deal got done but just yeah but no that's an insane story yeah steve was i like steve was was trying to get that card and you know it's it's from another it wasn't his so like rageport that's not his card he was okay he's brought it at there on someone's behalf and like you know obviously we weren't intending for this to be like a deal making you know hub for the national that's not what we've tried to do at this party but you know steven and raichport this is a a unique opportunity to buy a card that's never available anywhere else especially given that it's overseas so steve was trying to to wrestle it away and it didn't work out but that was a really funny experience and shout out to rageport he came all the way to the show from germany brought a ton of insane cards with him a young kid compared to the rest of us who are are old veterans here it was great to hear his story just you know decked out in john cena gear i loved it so that was cool i also wanna give out a shout out to wookie cards austin dressed up like sting like that was so cool he was a full cosplay the entire night it got hot in there because there were so many people and he was still wearing the trench coat like by the time it got to be like ten or eleven o'clock i was i gotta give him a shout out for that by the way he said it took him forty five minutes to get all the face paint off his face oh i believe it i he he was he had he posted the process on instagram and it was just like i i don't even wanna know what he went through for that he's carrying a bat around with him it was perfect okay let's let's just i i do wanna say thank you to the national committee i do have a slam i'm trying to get this to advance but it's not going two things i wanna do here first of all i wanna give a humongous thank you to all of the sponsors one last time acknowledge our sponsors and say thank you to from all of us for for making this possible i'm gonna call out a few of them individually because they put in some incredible stuff at the party but thank you to mc sports cards thank you to card ladder thank you to to everybody who was couldn't make it to the to the party itself but still was there to contribute and and be a part of it special shout out to to john sasso from card shop live like helped us do the teardown help us you know at the party all over the place he was holding court guy was awesome donated three hundred dollars worth of break credit to be given away to a collector i also wanna shout out jack nwo sports cards who literally walked up and and said here is my signed rhea ripley vest give it away to somebody at this party which i was just like are you sure like this is an awesome awesome awesome piece and we so we were able to give that away as part of our giveaways but shout out to to nwo sports cards follow him on instagram so just to talk about the individual sponsors thank you to chad sports car junction was there with ryan at the dinner came back and and was was doing you know his his part after you guys got to it stephanie from mama breaks brought a ton of stuff like not just a few giveaways she gave away like fifteen different things she did she was gonna plan to do her costume contest but you know just couldn't work out and like she still made it so much fun to have her up there shout out to to swish and the guys and dale at online they were there the entire time from setup all the way through to the end of the night just helping people they gave away three massive wrestling cards through their packs so you could go to their table and they would let you open a free pack and they had like the cards at the table one of them was assigned roman reigns refractor from chrome they had a stephanie vakair from chrome and they were just giving those away to people who ripped packs with them it was totally awesome shout out to troy and and from wax culture and tim bonito we already talked about you know sort of the roles that they played with us individually but troy was there again set up to tear down and then we went out afterwards with him and timmy those guys were there the whole night they were keeping people fired up it was awesome to see noah and and the team from bcw tim from big hat tim who you guys probably have seen him walking around the show with his the the giant baseball hat did a ton of giveaways they had special like mags for the show they gave away supplies to anybody who needed them who was ripping at the tables like you're you talk about just being there to support that was a great thing brian thd sports cards gave away a ton of graded cards gave away some wrestlemania sets we gave away a ton of stuff that ended up with these two girls that were there because people would leave and give their raffle tickets to those girls so they actually won a ton of stuff which was awesome to see did i forget anybody i don't think so right that's everybody you said car you said car ladder did you say car ladder i said car ladder yeah they were they weren't able to make it but but they they were awesome lastly thank you to the national committee they trusted us with this event again and they didn't have to and they didn't even ask us you know to really give a ton of information or anything they were just they trusted that ryan and and the team would be you know stewards of their show and we were it was perfect no one got out of line there was no issues whatsoever and we had a community celebration that will be talked about for at least another year and thank you to them thanks to al thanks to david marino thanks to all the guys there that have helped us along the way and greg at at campus housing what an amazing job getting us this venue thank you so much ryan anything you wanna add there just because you have such a good relationship with them as well yeah i wanna thank al for for allowing us he was he was went to bat today you know i wanna make sure that ryan gets and i'm getting the opportunity so big shout out to al he he made this possible going to them and saying you know giving he's the president of the national committee and he really went to bat for us and we were given this opportunity years ago but this was bigger on a much bigger scale and again we couldn't go without the sponsors without the national committee but more importantly you know adam and i had a lot of conversations leading up it was like i i i hope everybody shows up you know i hope that's a big turnout you know and and i said man just and obviously the week of the national just talking to people at the booth and stuff i was like this is gonna be a big hit this is gonna be awesome we got in that little instagram group which everybody talked about it i i just got the vibe that this was gonna over exceed all expectations we put a lot of work into this a lot of time obviously promoting it here on the stacking slabs network on booked less as well as brett promoting it constantly on his social media thank you to everybody all around between sponsors everything it wouldn't have been possible without everybody it was a cumulative thing of everybody group effort you know and and again i gotta tip my head off to both brett and adam who who put in a lot of time in this as well and and neil on the back end so neil for sure shout out to neil man he got us the stand ups he got us the shirts like rbi crew was he's great of that as much the bat even though you didn't able to enjoy it he like the backbone of of that sort of setup was was all neil thank you i will i i do you know what i did get to enjoy it i got to come later and i got to enjoy the aftermath and obviously watching eddie's video today i'm like those cards were in that room and i was at a dinner meeting okay not next year so again i i again i i hope i didn't offend anybody by not being there early i already let these guys know i didn't know if there was gonna be a chance i could unfortunately we didn't get out of the national until six twenty tim had a walk to our room quick shower and had to be at dinner at seven o'clock and we were ten minutes late ten fifteen minutes late anyway but again i i am so proud of everybody i'm so blessed that this actually happened and went over better than we could have dreamed of in my opinion from everything wow just wow i'm just a boss take our word for it it's not just us saying it everybody everybody was saying that everybody was tagging us and people would come out to me the next day and that was it was great five minutes before i came on the podcast family comes in with their boys they they love wrestling and i was just talking to them and they just they go how did friday go just thinking friday what the heck is oh that's what they're getting at is rest of the card takeover and i i kinda told them like because like we get you know obviously didn't go but the buzz is out there because i get i think they listen to podcast as well so it just cool man it's really awesome to see what this has turned into from from just the small beginnings to now and it it's just awesome really is any final thoughts brett before we we let you go here yeah i think hour to go yeah i i think the primary takeaway is even if it's it's stunk i think people would still be excited in putting us over because they got free t shirts and we we fed them alright that's the magic t shirt and pretzels let's go everything was free free free nonalcoholic drinks free snacks food free shirts free stickers and then all the stuff that everybody gave so everything is free that's the best part yeah as as i get out of here i just like there were a lot of things that happened this national stimulation overload as both of you both i'm sure are still coming down from but when i look back on the twenty twenty six national wrestling card takeover will be without a shadow of a doubt the first thing that comes to my mind i when you both started spinning up this idea shortly after this podcast started i was like are these guys for real like do they can we really do this and it happened and it happened and it exceeded my expectations just in terms of production everybody being so kind getting the room together so shout out to both of you and ryan definitely you and your team it was thank you it was it was so great so yeah i'll listen to the rest but appreciate you guys and everyone else listening see you brett see you bye so i promise i won't make this very long you're fine it's not like we have summerslam to talk about that didn't happen this weekend didn't you exactly so i think like for me i left on saturday morning because i had some stuff to prepare for at home that we'll talk about at another time but like the understanding here coming into summerslam is like i can't believe that this event happened like the same week as the national because a lot of people who were at the card show went back to minneapolis to go to summerslam i was able to make it back to go to the takeover store so i got a bunch of autograph pictures i got shirts and everything i'm wearing one of them right now it was awesome but the the main thing was saturday night was really good sunday night of summer's land was even better and that was by happenstance the one i was able to go to let's talk about saturday night first because randy orton is back of all like it out of nowhere so what was your impression of sort of just seeing randy come back in sort of the aftermath of night one that felt great to see him back it it was it was and he winked at you yeah actually several people were like was that wink for you actually long story short i did text him welcome back on monday with a picture of a card i got and he responded i will keep what his response is private it's pretty cool but eventually one day i could talk about it let's just go that way out because i don't wanna allude to what it could mean to but it was really awesome from a fan you know my kid actually my kids i i didn't get to watch it with them because obviously i'm at the national so last night i had put that match on even though like go to the open match go to the open match i'm like we gotta watch the ending of this first and my youngest blake is now obsessed with randy orton so the the apple wasn't fall far from the tree but it was just awesome to see him back i'm excited to see where the story goes you can obviously pivot off of punk and cody's done they're we're gonna go another angle but really cool moment to see that and obviously i haven't got to watch every single match i've watched a lot of recaps and dove in because i just haven't had the time but overall summerslam really kicked butt and i know we're gonna probably talk about raw what a raw but let's let's keep talking summer slam so yeah so obafemi and brock lesnar close out night one like what a match i think like i brock announced his retirement on monday or on tuesday didn't announce it at the event so i still i stand by the fact that that this whole program wasn't really necessary but the matches that have resulted were were definitely cool and awesome and i think the hell in a cell delivered probably one of the better matches that brock lesnar has had in a very long time i was really happy to see that anointed by brock lesnar at the end of the match i thought that was really cool but you know cody versus punk was a good match and i think everybody will only remember it because of randy orton and i think that's you know probably what they were hoping for very interested to see smackdown because at the beginning of sunday night we had a massive return we had so i don't think so we get to the show and we get into the we get into everything and the first match is this number one contenders match for you know co now we know it's punk's title and all of a sudden like nick aldis comes out and adds gunther to the match and we're like okay that you know they just had a match on sunday night or on saturday night it was a good match great for nick aldis to be back and he's like oh you only thought i was adding one person to the match no i'm adding another and he brings back ko with the like in the stadium the pop was ear shattering it was so great to see kevin owens back obviously he was gonna win we knew he was gonna win the second day that his music hit but it was great to see i i love seeing kevin owens back yeah smackdown is back up well i was let me see here i was in the vehicle they were trying to find all the stuff from russell kartikov at the embassy that took about twenty minutes and i'm like i'm not leaving my vehicle of all the stuff so i sent my guys in and you and brett had texted ko's back and i'm like crap i was gonna list you know i'm like he's back i gotta say feel bad for two people in this situation one being finn balor finally thought he was gonna get his chance to have his moment i'm like ah he'll surely beat and also i'm sorry neil your boyfriend powers i feel so bad neil picked up a lot of good one on ones at at the event but awesome i have not got to go through and watch that match yet i i we've had such a such a long week but i'm gonna go throughout the week watch a match or two with my boys they they love it so we're gonna slowly watch it throughout the week but i've obviously gone on cheated read social media read watched highlights but being seeing kevin owens back so so neil literally i told him we're at portillo's having there i go yeah you might wanna look i said you're you're gonna be mad but you won't be as mad when you see he goes did finn win no he goes that's all that matters well see who came go watch go see that and then he goes okay that's cool but it still sucks fincher but but happy to see ko back i i love i think they're gonna have an awesome storyline him and punk on the mic are gonna be incredible it's gonna be so good i am pulling for kevin owens to take the belt off of him i feel like he's gone through a lot to get back at this point i would love to see them put the belt on him because i think him and randy have some great paths that they can build on and and again not just me being a randy fan but i think there's more to where they can go with this direction and it gets somebody fresh on the title with the ko yes exactly fresh is key right now so i would love to see ko get his another run-in the title he deserve he hasn't had all but that one that he did back in the day when with the red belt triple h turned on seth and and that was on raw too which is crazy of all things so as if smackdown wasn't getting a a a bunch of reinforcements now we're in the the latter match with five women who listen as much as i want tiffany stratton to win in her hometown i don't need to see her win i don't need to see charlotte flair win i definitely don't need to see lash legend or jade kargil win you and i both agreed and brett agreed as well chelsea green needed to have her opportunity and she got it in the best possible way the pop for chelsea was almost as big as ko and i think that is so beyond awesome you got to see the clip of her and matt cardona celebrating at ringside like it was just such an amazing moment everybody felt for her sort of after that michael hayes comment which i don't know if it's a shooter or work but either way she shouted him out on the on the post show good for chelsea green good for everybody so just just to give you guys a a a listening out there a card market real time chelsea green since the match ended on sunday night has had a hundred and seventy cards sell obafemi since saturday night has had a hundred and forty cards sell she has sold more cards than obafemi in that time frame in the previous month she's had like combined like a hundred and so good for her like the market is definitely responding people are obviously already responding to obafemi roman reigns less than both of them and he won on sunday night in one of the best matches i've ever seen personally live so we were we were sitting with jaden from wax culture and we were back in the lower bowl in the tenth row and we could see perfectly we saw all the aftermath of them fighting through the crowd right in front of troy and tim from wax culture they're on camera doing the oba strut on saturday night and then on sunday night right where roman and seth were were fighting to go spot them in the crowd on the broadcast but that match with him and seth we knew was gonna be a banger and they absolutely delivered yeah i wanna touch real quick on the chelsea match so i was driving back and this past week sirius radio launched the wwe oh yeah yeah yeah so we actually listened to it all the way up all the way back so i was listening to match and john turned to me for the match he goes who's your peg to win i said chelsea green would be the most obvious that i would put on because this is an interim championship she's done everything at this point she deserves it this is a title where they're doing this now kinda like ufc she does this should be perfect for her obviously the obvious would be a tiffy in hometown but i'm like they're already i knew i had a feeling chad was gonna win as well i mean they already have somebody from hometown win so what a moment but it's crazy you're listening to it it's different listening that we're not watching okay and they're describing everything and it's hard in a ladder match like they're like this is going on this is so all of a sudden the first time she gets up there and then meachin and b fab come out but you could just hear the crowd going crazy i'm like john this is where she's gonna do it she's gonna win and they hear oh no here come b fab and meachin i'm like oh they're okay maybe she isn't gonna win and then all of a sudden they talk about everybody's out and they're like wait chelsea was playing possum she's up she's up like gets up like that goes up and it was awesome to hear the crowd in the background so we'll talk about that and then obviously i shouldn't have done this and i'm not kidding anybody but i had to put that roman seth match onto my vehicle on my dashboard to briefly take you know at least listen to it live watch it briefly while i'm driving us back wow what a i i would have to say within the wwe and aaa the second match match of the year i still rank the el grande americana match over this in my opinion but what a classic match all around it was done right no obviously the beautiful beautiful storytelling just an all out vintage classic match and i obviously had to feel you knew roman would win but way the way it happened i couldn't have scripted it better i thought they did a phenomenal job you were there and then the shield thing the shield thing at the end got a huge pop from the crowd that and then paying homage to daniel ambrose with the move with the move doing a move beautiful just storytelling all the way around me being such a seth fan those guys can just they can just work man they're wrestling soulmates man they're wrestling soulmates they are and it's it's great it was great to see live i will say this roman has had two matches this year in wrestlemania and and summerslam now that will stand the test of time long term so like we always tell you what like oh this one match where they did like eight flips and threw each other through eighteen tables and whatever those matches never get remembered these matches stand the test of time because they are built around these insane storytelling of like you know seth and roman being brothers in the shield and the eventual turns and every like all the twists and turns from their journey finally putting that to bed and coming together at the end with that with that shield thing was just so well done i mean everybody in the stadium was just jaw dropped like oh my god i can't believe this is happening i got to watch it back on the broadcast it was even better because you got to hear the trash talking and stuff that they were doing during the match yep roman is is proving with seth that they are the two best wrestling storytellers that i think i've ever seen and it's just every single time that they are together in a match it's magic and the you know sunday night was was no was no shock there i think one last thing i wanna touch on before we move on to some other stuff the raw after smackdown or raw after raw after summerslam summerslam summerslam yeah sorry was really freaking good and roman comes out he's interrupted by la knight fine whatever but before la knight came out like roman sort of paid homage to like everything that was going down they were in seth rollins' hometown which i thought was was interesting and then like midway through the broadcast like liv morgan and the judgment day start beating up solruka and and becky returns to say i'm coming for you cut just a deep promo that i was marking out like you have nobody's business because it's not only becky giving an awesome promo but she's giving the promo she's cutting that promo on liv morgan which has made it that much better liv is backing down the ramp and oh stephanie vicair is back as well which is so cool so wwe i i put out on twitter it was just like you've got ko and punk you've got obama rampage looking like a king with that white flowing thing that he was wearing and like just randy's back and becky is back and beck hair is back it's like i say put it back out there we're we're back up do you think that the wwe is listening to book the last because we've talked about how horrendous smackdown's been and now i'm like exactly i am actually gonna start watching smackdown live versus going on everything with all the storylines are gonna go back up i i gotta ask you are they are do you think becky is going back to being a face out or do you think liv's just that not like idea i i don't know but i love the promo she cut and she's like i've already made that title famous honey i'm not here for that i'm here for this and then she gave the whole all time and i was like oh my god and then the cure to come back too which i called two weeks ago i i couldn't wait till she came back so this is getting fun i i think well i i think it's you know obviously summerslam kinda ends from i would say rumble to summer slam you gotta that's like the the the epilogue yeah yeah yeah so here we are a new season and what a way to start i am excited they know what's on the horizon the with nfl returning they know they gotta set it up yeah they've gotta set it up and right now what we're seeing and who's returning i'm all in this is great i i think this is flipped the switch from the last time we were on to now it it's just it's i'm excited for the next chapter of what wrestling and and the biggest thing we're hearing is the future we we heard about the we keep hearing the future it's dropped by all these people brock lesnar we've had other people hennen as well roman alden seth i think you're about to see the next generation in our eyes coming in the next year or two and they're really gonna be putting a lot of emphasis on the next generation which i am all here for i love it excited to be a wrestling fan right now even bron breakker versus obafemi had that face up on the ramp was great put that like what'd you say last i put in my veins is that what you said yeah i just put it directly in my veins just put in my veins yes i'm in so i we walked out of the show i ran into tim trout and david sharp who we had on the podcast great to see both of them at the show got to connect with them a little bit they had early flights they couldn't come out with with us timmy and and troy we we ended up at a bar right by the stadium talking about wrestling for like two and a half hours that's the best do you have some man sodas too i hate that you called man sodas but yes we did we had a lot but like is there no better hang on the planet than literally after the biggest summerslam potentially like i have ever seen going and hanging out at a bar with two guys like that and jaden and just being able to hang out and trade war stories was like the best night i've i've like i needed that so bad when you did it on friday night as well when we all hung out back in my hotel for a while i was that's right for that one that that's that's awesome i'm so happy to continue with yeah it is and you just keep going on it just it the passion that wrestling fans have you know is unmatched in my opinion so i'm i'm glad you got to enjoy that time with them we're great guys awesome awesome so i wanna talk briefly just the the national boxes i'm we're gonna spend like thirty seconds on this because we got other stuff topps put out these national boxes we didn't have quite the amount of detail on them coming into last week's show these boxes were a blast to rip i ripped about six or seven of them i ended up with like a blake monroe autograph a chad gable autograph to five i pulled five red refractors out of five i got the becky lynch super fracture you got both the randy's like everybody was having a blast ripping these they were going for like double the price of what they were being sold for mhmm because people knew that they were like so so loaded with awesome stuff i pulled a dominic mysterio out of ten so i gave that to babyface at at wrestling card takeover i i have i pulled alexa bliss to ten like these boxes were so much fun i don't know if you got even got the chance to rip any of them but they were i got to do two i only put it for one day and then corey got a box and then he traded me i had something i did a trade i i didn't pull anything great but i think i hit a red red of seamus or black of seamus i remember i gave all my base cards and all the guys gave all their base cards to brian t h because he wanted to build i got two for him as well whatever you don't need just give the kids you know we were just happy to to actually get to rip a few and it was cool i i mean three of the four cards in the product if seth has an auto i own now so obviously the oh sorry he does he got pulled by the way so the seth video i would love to add that if i could but again if i don't it's not the end of the world i picked up another group of good stuff so yeah if you if anybody sees the becky lynch superfractor autograph i'd like to have it just as a memory of the event and i was happy to get the one that was pulled at wrestling card takeover so whenever i look at that card and be like oh that was that night yeah yeah with the art and it's awesome to to have that memory when i see that card now it's not just a card i bought online i it there's a memory that goes to it and and the conversations that you have and remembering where it came from that there nothing tops that when it comes to this type of stuff topps released a number of cards over the last three days they did one for the one drop for night one one drop for night two and or drop for raw which was the becky and seth stephanie vakir on one card i had to order a bunch of those that was an awesome moment they have an autograph of obafemi they have an autograph of chelsea green and they have an autograph of kevin owens that's not the cards people need to chase one of them is a dual autograph of brock lesnar holding up obafemi's arm it is one of the coolest cards that i've ever seen brock lesnar be on it's just a moment in time that will is great and then the coup de grace is seth rollins and roman reigns doing the shield pose with a dual autograph which is just an absolutely sick card i had to order i i never order non becky cards ask it was my next question how many did you order i didn't i never order non becky cards i ordered a bunch of the dual obafemi and brock's i ordered a bunch of the seth and romans i i if i get the card great but because i was there for that moment like i wanted to have that and that card is just absolutely so if you pull because i'm buying zero because you know my tracker your luck is terrible yeah if you pull the seth roman dual autograph one zero one are you a keeping it or b are jameson and i gonna have to get a ring and go at it you're gonna have to get a ring yeah okay alright i'm not gonna hold it from here yeah okay well then jameson and i are gonna have to have have to duke it out then if you pull it i'm hoping he pull it and then we could have the match right oh i mean i know this is coming this is great yeah so topps launched their wrestling instagram account i'm i'm gonna talk with the guy who runs it here coming up but like so for a while the topps wrestling handle on instagram has existed they launched it with these top now topps now card releases really great to see topps creating a wrestling channel specifically for the wrestling content they gave they're giving away a john cena card the giveaway will probably be done by the time where you're listening to this but it's just cool that topps is dedicating a full instagram account branch off of their major tree here so that was really awesome we also got summerslam patches are back obafemi it was you know the one that i spotted it on early on because i only watch i was able only able to watch the last two matches and so i was really happy to see that they are making summerslam patches again people had spotted them on many wrestlers during the course of night one but there was one wrestler in night two who i saw wearing and i mentioned it earlier in the podcast roman reigns has not worn a wrestlemania patch to date this was the first time he has agreed to put one of these patch on his gear and you can imagine when this comes out it'd probably be dynasty twenty twenty seven that these cards are available if the if the new york new jersey ones are from twenty six so insane this card is gonna be insanely valuable just because of the of the circumstances of that match agree yeah i i am just more blown away that you know rum away from never wearing one to putting it so in plain sight yes i'm like i'm like holy crap like that i go john i'm literally looking at the driving a vehicle should look at my phone there it is it's right there i feel like i'm leonardo dicaprio you're whispering you know like that's it he's wearing it and then brett texas because obviously did you see it on the the tron or did you no i couldn't see it so brett was one that texted our group and i'm like holy crap he's wearing it i was like because i remember seeing those at wrestlemania they were promoting at the top thing so wow i mean yeah the oba's gonna be popular and i'm sure jamieson's gonna break the bank just to to bring the roman home so awesome a very select few big sales during the course of the national they were doing ebay live rip it is logan paul's company and he does pokemon and a bunch of stuff on there rip it was doing auctions and they had gotten a hold of the tops now money in the bank logan paul one zero one foil fracture as a graded g psa ten it's sold on the stream for sixty thousand three hundred dollars now there's a reason why it's sold this high one it's logan paul's company they had thousands and thousands of people on that stream secondly this is may end up being logan paul's only official like topps card like they have struggled to get him into sets it's happened more than one time where they've tried and just haven't been successful this is the one of one and it's sold it's the third highest selling modern wrestling card of all time well it it is gonna only be as ever even if they make more cards this is his only rookie one zero one yes correct this is it it has a rookie card logo on it it has a rookie card logo on it for those of you who just they're listening on the second snaps network this i i as much people like that's insane i look at this and go i don't think that's insane especially if he can't get more cards no but again he's not gonna have rookie cards they already did it in tops now back in twenty five so if we get logan car paul cards in twenty seven you can't slap a you can triple stamp and double stamp and you put a rookie card on it this is it man it's this is it so i i got i've got him to break character i got it triple stamp and double stamp that's great movie buff here so yeah i love it i i i don't think this is crazy i think i mean people are like ryan's out of his mind but i i i think things are happening man things are happening to your buzz more people in the space there's more stuff that we know that went down at rusty cartagena we can't really bring to light but yeah there's some cards selling for big money in the wrestling scope big money that are going behind the scenes and and we're aware of it but again we we don't we're not in a position to publicly announce that but let's just say not that's a big card so yeah the one zero one we mentioned this earlier the flawless logo or not the flawless diamond one of one from twenty twenty four flawless sold on ebay best offer during like the last day of the show sold for fourteen thousand dollars i think this is low first of all but i think it'll end up being low i think it's probably like a little bit less than market value because it was listed at seventy five k obviously it wasn't going for that but i hearing what some of the prism golds have been selling for this is a little low what what's your guess twenty twenty five k probably on top twenty twenty five k yeah yeah it's kinda what i thought so anyways so we mentioned it earlier but oba's cards are going absolutely bananas i bought a bunch of them at the show like a bunch of them brian sold me a few got some off ebay i i mean just what's not to like the guy's a beast he's a beast he's the future yep last one we'll talk about here the roman reigns planetary pursuits pluto so the the the most rare parallel of all the planets highest selling planet to date three thousand dollars we have best offer yesterday so after the show after the summer slam show i like these cards are cool and stuff like that and so i think people are showing the popularity this is an unnumbered card so it's just like you're kind of just guessing that at the rarity here i've been told you know five or less five there's there's somebody out there who said two there's more than two but less than five so give or take three thousand dollars be a best offer huge number on that it's the biggest one to date really awesome to see yeah if you need to complete it that the whole set this is you just gotta buy it if you're trying to actually complete it it's all as well there were four there were four people at wrestling cards or three people at wrestling card take take over that had the complete set there one of them yeah birdman has seth rollins k gunnar mathis has cody rhodes and they had all the cards there with them so i got to see it was really cool and there was one other one that had i don't know if it was joe hendry or somebody else but like to see the completed solar system is is really cool i i i love that idea birdman actually is getting it like done and his seth rollins has like a a frame where it's like it has all of the individual cards like around seth rollins and like a a it's really cool that's so good we're at the end i i didn't go too long this was ryan like you and i have talked every day for the last year two years whatever and i talked to you about everything from life to wrestling cards but like this week i can't place another week in my life and you'll find out why later on why this was even bigger than what we've talked about here but like i can't remember a week in my life where i've had this much fun i picked up five one on ones or four one on ones of this five one on ones of the show like that never happens where i can get two soup three super fractures a black prism one zero one thank you texas toy trader and you know the the immaculate one of one that you were able to secure for me from fatterhead yep thank you for that by the way thank you for yeah thank you and i i i had to put adam back in my black book for a few minutes so it was great i told adam you gotta take care of he no i it was a joke but i go yes in other reason i could put him in this black adam's great to get in and out but i was like got him right in there and he started laughing at the second yeah exactly because i you adam wasn't there i had to buy it for him you were i was setting up the party setting up and i was like hey he's here we gotta get the deal done so shout out to aaron for for making sure adam got to go home with that so yeah so i mean like like i said i can't remember a week of collecting of just sports fandom like everything where i got to do all of these things at once national convention follows summerslam or summerslam following national convention heading back we're going to the loons game tonight which is a wwe themed mn ufc mls game tonight for my wife's birthday i can't wait that's awesome it's gonna be awesome there's i'm sure there'll be a wrestler or two there but like dude first of all thank you for all of the support that you put into this party i people will never know kind of what we went through and nor should they but you stepped up above and beyond and thank you and neil and the entire rbi crew team for everything you guys did for the party picking up after after we left i had to duck out a little early this convention was unlike anything i've ever seen i i don't know how we top it and you say that literally every fucking year and then it's like the next year is like twice as big and you're surprised and it's just like i hope we can do this again next year i hope the national committee gives us the opportunity but yeah i mean like what a week man what a week i don't know if you have any other final thoughts before we wrap up well first thing i wanna say is thank you to everybody who came and supported us in our booths not only did adam pick up several one on ones i picked up several one on ones of orton and rollins on top of several cards for parker i had a lot of people drop off gifts thank you to everybody again for those but more importantly we wouldn't be able to do the record numbers we do the show that we do without not only my team who is amazing i have an amazing team of six people under me that ran our booth to let me be me essentially to let me just talk to people hang out it was awesome but again would not have been possible without everybody supporting us it may have be just coming by to say hi or selling us something or buying something from us it's just great talking to people it is the best week of the year for this the sports card industry or just card industry the hobby in general i look forward to every year but every year i forget i get a little older and older and it kicks my arse more and more and we were all dead tired by the time it got done we get it on monday and we go nonstop from monday to sunday and i'm telling you when i say nonstop from the moment that we leave we may have an hour tops to get back to our hotel freshen up to go to something else and that started on monday there was not a break at all and then obviously oie ryan maybe two of the nights put himself to bed at eleven o'clock i'm talking to third person i'm usually up to one or two o'clock hanging out talking with people those are the i can't get that here i can't you can't get that anywhere can't and it's just an amazing amazing time and if you've never been you gotta go it's a chicago next year for twenty seven then it pivots to detroit in twenty eight mhmm the nashville is like nothing else just like people say fedex fest is like nothing else these are not the same thing they're both doing amazing things for the hobby but i've been doing the nationals since my first ever time setting up was in twenty eleven and it gets better and better every year it has gotten better and better every year i don't know how we're gonna do the numbers we did this year next year from this year but i'm a goal getter i like to overachieve i i love to put everything i have into this so again what a week thank you again for everybody and thank you again for coming out to support wrestling car takeover i i hope we get to run it back again next year and that all hinders on if the national gives us the green light again which i hope they do i hope they see the amazing things that that everybody did sponsors including us and all the people that came out to be a part of it i really wanna run it back i know it's a lot of work for adam and i behind the scenes and neil and again we are all up for it we'll sign it up again let's do it we gotta do rest guard takeover number two which is in one time for number two and let's see if we can build upon it yeah for sure i think like we just to hammer this nail in wrestling collectors have asked me a number of times coming up to this week do you think it's worth it for me to go to the national and it's always been tough to answer because ryan and chad and brian are really the three major dealers mike bev celtics and a few others mhmm have wrestling griffey gaia have wrestling cards at table seven out cards as well i saw a little bit that's not why you go like like if you're looking to just buy and sell wrestling cards like you can probably message brian or ryan or chad or anything through the year and and they'll tell you what they have or whatever and whether or not it's worth it for you to do a deal with them on instagram or whatever but the tops experience that was at the show panini i got to talk with the entire panini team again thanks shout out to dj congrats on your retirement lucas all those guys at panini were great kevin hake you name it like i can't i can't drop enough names like we've dropped so many names here but like it was just that's what this week feels like and you see these content creators oh it was so like look at all the deals look at all the stuff i got like we're trying to approach this from a different manner because for us it means something different and i think like for a wrestling card collector who's considering do i make the trip next year the answer is without a shadow of a doubt you need to be here and you need to be here because it's fun you need to be here because of the people literally like the fifth thing on this list is the cards so like i think that's why we did the party the way we did that's why we set it up the way we did it's because it's about the people and it's about the community and that's always our first and foremost sort of priority but yeah what an absolutely amazing week thank you to everybody who's listened and supported us and came up to us at the show it means a lot like i've gotten messages on instagram and everything since then as well like thank you guys for all of your support we'll continue to do this for the rest of the year and we're we're hopefully here for a long time doing this podcast my dad actually said he wants to listen to the podcast because my brother came in we sold a bunch of michael jordan cards to three stars here in minneapolis because my brother found all his cards from thirty years ago i sent you that picture you did send me that picture yes yes so ewan if my brother's getting back into it you know sports cards are getting big with that we'll see you next week big gulps see you later