it's episode fourteen yes it is i have returned i'm tired but i'm here i'm excited a lot going on adam how we doing today i have i'm like overwhelmed like let's let's take a minute to appreciate it over adam what are what are we overwhelmed of so oh we'll we're gonna get there like we have like to say we have a jam packed show today is like saying you know we there's only been a few products released in the last few weeks like this is probably our busiest show that we have done we have so much to discuss i feel overwhelmed tops chrome is off and running we're gonna get right into it here in a minute i know that you are just coming back from the industry conference which we will cover here as well i hope you are ready for this i know you've said how much the phoenix time has really messed with you but yeah i'll be ready trust me when we start getting talking and going i'm still waking up about an hour ago one of my employees looked at me and goes you look exhausted i'm like yes i am exhausted but i'm here second podcast of the day let's rock and roll alright let's get into it so we're gonna we're gonna take a very brief moment to go through two things that happened on raw and smackdown over the last couple of days i i wanna just you being that you're so tied into this randy orton feud with cody rhodes and i and now that pat mcafee is back i wanna get your opinion on sort of like the reveal here because i have a a very pointed opinion very much probably unexpected the way you most people have reacted to this but i'm curious like what was your like sort of feedback coming out of the pat mcafee being revealed as the person that randy orton was on on the phone with last smackdown here well if you remember i was there at smackdown witnessing this promo cut i absolutely love the promo yep did not expect it to be pat mcafee my prediction i think we talked in the show were i think triple h or kevin owens samson and i was way off i i just don't know how this is gonna play out i love the promo i did obviously he didn't touch on reason why it's not selling out is it because the word at least at least punk solidified that and we know the reasons why it's not selling out right now but i don't hate it i i just hope that my outcome is as long as randy orton walks out of wrestlemania fifteen time world champion i don't care what has to happen if it's mcafee at a side or not but this better not be a thing when mcafee turns on orton and joins a heel cody or her face so that would be my only gripe at this point i don't care who's next to randy orton he didn't really need anybody next to him so i don't know why they're doing this route but hopefully there is a bigger story here that's gonna tell in time that benefits randy and benefits the wwe but again i don't have a problem with it i just i don't know what to think right now but i'm okay with it i guess is my honest opinion yeah and like you were there were there for stand and deliver i you said you had a great time at both mhmm so that's awesome i i like pat mcafee has gotten a lot of flack on the internet over the last couple internet wrestling community over the last few years just because of his ridiculous show and you know i i think that's probably a lot of fair criticism for some of the persona that he has helped to cultivate especially with some of the people he brings on his show but like leaning into a heel persona for pat mcafee the way that they did with logan paul i think is going to be epic like i like i we can love to hate pat matt pat mcafee and i think like yes you are one hundred percent correct orton did not need help he did not need another person to support this like everything is just you know the way that it needs to go but i think pat mcafee's promo was so much fun to watch and i think it's so much better than sort of just hey let's reveal some random person who you know it could be triple h it could be this it could be that but then like i i don't know what we get out of any of this at least with pat mcafee you're gonna get something completely off the cuff completely off kilter but still insanely entertaining yeah i'm i'm a hundred percent agreement with you on this one again going back again i i don't think i can reiterate enough love the promo my kids my daughter turned to me and did say he did say a he said a bad word daddy i was like he did he did i didn't think you were gonna hear that today we haven't heard that kinda language come out in a long time so i guess are are we are we trending towards in the car yeah probably yeah so i go there adam okay it's a pg show well no not really because it's not but but yeah so again i i hope there's a bigger story to this long term to tell are they trying to revitalize a potential attitude era is this gonna be some type of faction i don't know but we do know one thing is randy orton is the most dominant heel wrestling champion when he has somebody by his side it doesn't matter if it's a wrestler or not if he's got somebody there he's dominant and he's gonna be hard to beat when he carries the belt hopefully he carries the belt because somebody here is not gonna be happy if he doesn't get it at mania so yeah and i i feel for you i know you're gonna go so yes i'm i'm going officially as of two days ago we're going i that's gonna be awesome dude so let's i i will like i think that there's something else we're gonna find out so this will go live on patreon on friday it'll be live for everybody on saturday so by the time you're probably listening to this on saturday well we will have gotten a further explanation from pat mcafee he's slated i think to kick off smackdown on friday so that'll be good punk's promo on the monday night raw of like the the following sort of monday it seems like these days like they give him like one yearly pipe bomb to sort of just completely say whatever he wants and i thought this one was one of the more effective of those sort of like repeats of you know the original like nothing is ever going to measure up to the original pipe bomb ever you like you can try just like you're never gonna produce a video that's better than my way by you know with austin and rock you're never gonna do it like you can keep having that as a goal and that's a good thing but it's never gonna reach that level but you know that doesn't mean that you're not gonna hit some really high points trying to get there and i think that's what punk did on monday night love what he was saying love the promo he got a a solidly roman reigns crowd on his side by the end of that promo because he is the best in the world when it comes to that mic work and i i think it it was a really really awesome thing to watch yeah and neil put it best when he texted me a picture when he was cutting the promo and the pipe bomb and he said yeah this pipe bomb just doesn't do like the other one while you're sitting on an advertisement in the ring i'm like yeah that that i get it i really that i can relate with so no i i'll be honest with you i haven't heard the entire thing i've heard bits and pieces this was done monday night while i was in arizona at the tops event we were so we're two hours behind and we had our event from five to eight well from like four to eight and then obviously afterwards so i've caught bits and pieces i wanna go back and watch the entire promo cut i heard it was really good so again i know the gist of it but i haven't seen the entire clip which i'm gonna catch up on so awesome alright let's sleep first though that's yeah right get get get some rest here yes let's let's get into the high spots because they're like we're gonna keep that first segment short i just wanted to make sure because ryan was there at stand and delivered i'm sure you had a good time really good time really good time right there in front of it i was three rows behind the booker t basically so when tony d'angelo put the put him through the table that was right there in front of me and it was just like awesome didn't see you just you couldn't see it to the side you just came out of nowhere so that's really cool and you know i i really haven't had enough time to really invest in nxt lately and i've you know the all the things with kendall gray and coming up as sort of like this this new women's superstar all the things that have been going on with some of the newer guys around there like i really wanna get into it and back into because i've heard it's been really good i mean look at what's happened with obafemi and everything coming up jevon evans like all those guys were from this new era of nxt and i really wanted to really good product you should give it a chance we enjoy watching it it's good wrestling and we saw really good wrestling on saturday night it always is it always is alright so let's let's get into it like tops industry conference so just for everybody who again may be listening to us for the first time or didn't hear the show last week every year let let's take this a step further back because it used to be that beckett and a few other people used to run like a yearly industry conference it was the industry summit is one of them industry summit yes thank you sorry and that has that had gone on for many many many years i mean they had everybody from upper deck to tops to panini like they were all there they were all it was like the roadshow for the the industry side of the community a couple of years ago once tops realized that they were kind of the last man standing on a lot of this stuff they decided to start their own the last couple of times they've done it at like the college football hall of fame they've done it in in atlanta and this year they did it at the arizona cardinals stadium in phoenix and from every photo that we've seen it was pretty epic but ryan you were there i know a lot of people i know were there jameson was there i mean all the guys from sports card nonsense were there collects you know sports card investors as much as they don't like cartladder was there they got a letter there yep yeah cartladder i mean you name it if if you have any real investment in this i know stephanie sort of was posting some stuff on her instagram and i saw just a number of people sort of covering this because it's a big event like this is topps' sort of answer to everything they do at the national is really for the collector everything they do at this industry conference is for the people that support the industry side so ryan talk about literally what this what does this event mean to you as a dealer first and then we can get into some of the things that were mentioned specifically around the wrestling card space yeah so we've been going to the the tops industry conference since it started it's one of those things where you have to be direct with tops maybe a hobby shop or breaker now they did branch out this year and invited in you know like wax that was there they had collect they had like you know i said card ladder but other people are like you know sports car nonsense they break so they've already been there in the past so but it is the biggest and best shops and breakers from across the world i mean we're talking international shops like cherry collectibles was there other people so we you know this is the best of the best again not everybody gets an invite they have obviously their prospect accounts for hobby shops did not get an invite but it was eight hundred and something people total i think which is just astronomically insane that's almost double last year it's tremendously grown so every year they put this on it is important to be there if you get an invite you better be there or you better have somebody representing your company because you need to be there you're missing out on the opportunity to just really get to network and talk to so many people in the hobby that's my favorite part about it yes i get educated going to these things but there's two nights essentially they host kind of dinner events or getting going out to do some fun events and that's the social network social time and it's just huge it's you're you see these people every day you follow them on social media you watch them you may break with them you may shop with them you know again it's the opportunity like no other you're not gonna get this extra time at a place like the national or fanatics fest to really get this opportunity to talk among one another and to really get to know one another so i kudos to topps they put on a phenomenal phenomenal conference i was lucky enough to be asked to come on stage so i was on the stage for about three to five minutes they're they're wanting to do some hobby mentor stuff and and have other shops mentor other shops i e breakers and whatever and i and i felt honored to go up there because i i've been known as a mentor and a mentee so i had one of those questions but again i look forward to this conference every year it is the second they announce it i'm already shannon we need the kids watch these dates we need to be there shannon goes with me my wife she's gone every year so because she's a very important part of this business as well so again people go there and i think the shops and breakers leave rejuvenated excited ready to go on forward for the rest of the year looking forward to the amazing things in twenty twenty six that's great and it was cool to see that you got featured like there there are not many of those slots right so it's not like there's like a a parade of people going up there and it was cool to see that you got the opportunity well deserved obviously thank you and and to be recognized in that manner but i think like for for everybody who has listened to this podcast and has listened to sort of the the stuff that i was doing before and everything like that like that's not what this is about this is about how to make your your business around the hobby better but you can't expect people to travel and do these types of things unless they get some of the fun stuff as well and i think like the the the the events that they've done i mean tiffany stratton was there last year i don't know if they had somebody from somewhere else before they had luis gonzalez this year and they brought in tattoria mcmillan to sign his rookie debut patch card in front of everybody which is pretty cool but the only athlete you got to really meet was luis gonzalez which is cool and again used i don't care to go meet an athlete it's cool to me so meeting tiffany stratton last year was awesome like i met some awesome athletes over the years but to me it's not about being the athlete it's about being there it's about being in the moment and being around people that are amazing in this hobby yeah and i i i've seen some of the coverage like they they did a ton of sort of like social media around like oh we're gonna the first look at the nfl rookie debut patches we're gonna we're gonna show you all the stuff we're gonna do for baseball we're gonna show you all the stuff that we're gonna do for football which is brand new tops chrome football as as much as we are focused on tops chrome wwe ryan being a an all purpose hobby shop tops chrome football literally one of the things that brought me into collecting cards was tops chrome on the sports side and to have that release very quickly after top scrum wwe has to be like you know the the biggest holiday of the year for you as a hobby shop because you get to experience everything with wwe and then probably one of the biggest football releases they've done that has happened in years i would guess yeah so first off it's the first licensed tops chrome they've had since twenty fifteen which was the last year second off they sent us this awesome tops chrome counter tracker down thing where it counts down well we end up doing it to set up for tomorrow for wwe and then we'll reset it next week for tops chrome which by the way the amount of people that have reached out over the past week asking are you gonna have tops chrome football are you gonna have tops chrome football is the most i've seen on a product in a very long time and it's overwhelming per response and tops is showing off so many incredible cards there and things they're doing with this product it's going to blow it out of the water they are injecting so much craziness and in this one as much as they are wwe so i think everybody's excited the mvp buyback program will be in that that'll be stafford cards another added bonus to when you rip the product is getting those we we talked about the rookie debut patches which was announced yesterday as well big big things come in and you know with tops having everything also the other thing they announced was in football they're gonna have all game used items going forward from my understanding with like from games and stuff so which is even better yeah and i think the reason that we wanna talk about this is because like if you think about the amount and the investment into these licenses that tops has for football and the tops has for basketball and for baseball like the understanding here is that some of that type of stuff is gonna come to wwe we've already gotten some of the preview of what that's gonna look like for royalty that was something they discussed as well which we'll get to here in a second but like i i wanna like give people the understanding like i it was really so this was one of my favorite things that happened this past week is like somebody called me a sellout on twitter because we're so excited about a lot of this stuff and i'm just like the guy has like five followers i'm just like oh stay mad please but it's just like you know when you start to see things like this go down like you you can have like one of two reactions you can be like ah you know topps is taking over the world fanatics is taking over the world no one likes that or you can say you know what this is gonna be like even though maybe this isn't a product that i'm gonna buy because i i don't collect football cards anymore i used to but it's something that elicits a nostalgic response for me and i was like i was excited like i was excited to see what they're doing for topps chrome football and like to know because we're getting a lot of that stuff in tops chrome wwe and royalty wwe like they have made a switch to event use material in a lot of these products and so the investments that are being made with the access that fanatics has is is really really cool and i think like people can be upset that like the exclusive licenses really don't have the best impact like yes i would love to see panini make wwe cards again alongside topps we want that company absolutely i'm not coming on here and saying that topps should be the ruler of the universe i am saying that guys like there are some really cool things that are happening and like seeing them sort of all paraded out here in front of the industry is one thing but they're gonna be in collector's hands pretty quickly here as well like chrome football is coming quickly wwe is out tomorrow or if you're listening to this podcast yesterday and it's just like you know those are the things that i think as long as they get their feet underneath them and start releasing product i think we've already seen them now release as many products in this year with with the launch of royalty as they did all of last year in five months so like they've already sort of turned up the volume and we talked about it being turned up to eleven i don't think that's gonna quit and i think like the the market has shown at least for right now that it can be supported so you know i think like we're gonna talk very positively about this because it it's exciting news like even if it's not the news that maybe aligns directly to your collection it's still cool to hear about all the things that are coming because sports cards as a platform has become like this hot new area and it's not really new but you know this hot area of news and and reporting and all this other stuff and for the first time even the first time around in the boom wrestling cards didn't feel that until panini came in in twenty twenty two so we were already most of the way through the first boom before wrestling cards really got any attention now it's it's happening in real time yeah and i and i really think you know puneet we we both will agree puneet did a phenomenal job in the three years they had yes and they were constrained with not really a good relationship once things got started with wwe which caused issues with getting things done but it really set the precedent and the tone for hey topps has got wwe back let's do bigger and better things that we've done before ever with wwe product and we're seeing that plus we're seeing the relationship with them and the wwe is like none other you know we're getting less redemptions than ever inscriptions everything's almost on card when you get a redemption it's not taking years to fulfill it's taking right days weeks months you know their job is to get this stuff and get this in the collector's hands they wanna i mean if you ask michael rubin he would he would never wanna have a redemption again you know but this is where we're at and we we should be appreciative of the fact that hey they're doing everything they can to make sure your experience ripping their product is a better overall experience than getting a piece of paper with a wrestler or a person's name on it and you plug it in the system and wait and they announced some pretty good stuff there that again i'm not gonna go into but about the redemption process and an app and it's gonna be very innovative in the next year what they're doing and it's gonna be even better for the consumer as a whole so we're not gonna talk about the that's we're not supposed to talk about what happened with the the app and everything like that that's supposed to be kept no they they they talked about it i mean like there's still like things are working progress it's still but they were saying with like this app where you could do your redemptions on there and you could watch the process and you could sell the redemption before it's live that way you don't have to wait on the month you know tie your time up if you wanna get your money there there's a lot of features that they talked about yesterday that are coming and this app is supposed to be very innovative in the future so they're gonna i think the the news that at least that i've seen being posted on twitter so i'm assuming it's it's it's it's live it's public it's just they didn't there's only so much they talked about because it's like look there's much more we wanna talk about but this is what we hold on let me let me finish yeah because it's like so the i the the feedback that they gave was that fanatics live as an app is going away it is being folded into fanatics collect so fanatics collect is going to house both the live breaking platform the auction platform all of the vault everything like that is all gonna be housed in this one application i mean the the features around the breaks where you can send your cards directly to the vault and like all those other stuff like obviously those are still works in progress but like i think like what i've what i've seen at least posted and i i saved a graphic i was gonna add to this because it was put out by you know one of the major you know news accounts so i'm i'm not spoiling anything here i don't think you're not is that tops tops is really and well let's say fanatics because tops is really just a part of this fanatics is really making a huge investment to consolidate a lot of the experience into a streamlined sort of automated ex you know sort of journey through pack ripping to grading to this to that the other thing and by the time they're finished which likely is still a ways off in the future like everything will be compartmentalized within this you know one application which i think most tech tech companies including the one i work for like those are the things that we're working towards like this is something that is not outside the bounds of reality for many of the companies out there whether it's nike or it's pepsi or whatever they want to or even mcdonald's with their app because i i use that frequently to buy happy meals for my kids but it's like you know when you think about all of these things being compartmentalized in one app from live breaking through the the selling and the and the trading and everything like that i've been waiting for technology to be at the forefront of this hobby for years and years and years because i work in technology and i always thought that that cards were were stuck in the dinosaur era and i think that like having these this level of innovation which isn't really innovation for anybody except for sports cards this is something that has happened in so many industries it's it's like they're behind at this point but at least if they're making the investment and it's coming hopefully this reaches fruition yeah adam spot on you hit it all you're correct and again they they spoke highly of this app they said what this thing's gonna do is be very revolutionary in a way for our industry and it's gonna make everything a lot more of a better overall experience for the consumer the collector and that's that's huge i mean that gets people more engaged in the hobby it makes things a lot easier i mean let's be honest the days of getting a scanner scanning a card getting on a computer listening to ebay i mean it's a lot easier now than ever to do anything may it be research listing selling it was a grind for years to try to move cards on the forums and everything so we've evolved a lot but i think this is gonna be the next level step and it's exciting to hear a lot of the stuff that came out of this conference are exciting things and you know tops fanatics is putting so much more money into you know the technology industry and and some of the features they're gonna provide for shops and the technology in shops is really awesome too so i'm excited to see what's in store yeah and then and then just to sort of close this section out we also found out that topps dynasty i mean we like this this is the worst kept secret is a teaser but yeah yeah it was a teaser but if you remember back to the beginning of twenty twenty five they had a commercial that aired on tv for you know announcing that they had gotten wwe cards back and as part of that commercial they showed two cards one of which was a triple h and stephanie mcmahon dual autograph relic and one of them was a tiffany stratton dual auto or autograph relic and those cards were not part of any twenty twenty five set but as part of the industry conference they did mention that topps dynasty is coming i've been given a little bit of information of sort of like what to expect but all i can say is like the types of things that they are cutting up to put in these guards some of them were previewed at wrestlemania last year some will be previewed at wrestlemania this year like they're they are going all out they already are going all out for royalty but i think from a topps dynasty perspective it's like almost the same level or above because it's that one card sort of experience and you know i'm really hoping that we don't get to f one pricing levels but i'm i'm starting to think that we're probably heading that direction that'd be hard i mean i don't know i don't that would be insane if they were that pricing i mean we know royalties probably probably gonna come out if i had a guest take a stab in the dark about a thousand dollars a box is my guess is what the market's gonna be on them just based on knowing what cost was offered to us out but i gotta think diancie that's the f one we're talking verstappen we're talking lewis hamilton i mean you know f one a lot better than me yeah you know but i i hope we're not going to there if we are then i don't i think a lot of people are gonna be left unhappy but again it's more of a breaking product anyway so fingers crossed because i wanna rip some and i don't wanna pay f one pricing to rip this product that i've been waiting for since i teased in that commercial so exciting stuff though yeah for those i mean like if you if you've seen the soccer product if you've seen the baseball product if you've seen anything like dynasty to this day is one of the most entertaining sort of quick rips you will ever watch but it's also per card the most expensive product ever made correct so like like you're talking a thousand dollars per card potentially and royalty you get six autographs we'll talk about that in a second you get six autographs for a thousand bucks here it's literally one card so whether or not that the wrestling community can support it maybe it's a five hundred dollar box maybe it's a six hundred dollar box it's still gonna be expensive it is a super super premium product and it's one of the most expensive rips ever created but the cards are absolutely gorgeous i wanna jump into tops chrome first day issue before we get into royalty of course you'd show that card we'll get there so first day issue was live on april eighth and for the most part it felt like we are getting our first look at tops chrome first of all everything is first but first of all we're getting our first look at tops chrome in the first day issue but we're also starting to see like some of the nuances of the set that just can't be captured in previews so we're talking about like what the inserts look like what the parallels look like all the different cards and all these other things like we we got a really really good viewpoint into that i still think it fell like it was a great experience it was super fun like pulled some awesome cards i ripped three boxes of it already but i still think like there is so much in hobby that yeah i'm seeing like the nineteen eighty six autos the the garbage pail kids like they just didn't seem like they were very common in the fbi cases so i'm not sure if that's on purpose or if that's just the way the collation worked out but you know we got a very standard sort of approach i thought that there were gonna be a tricolor and a silver so the tricolor out of eight and the silver out of twelve from all intents and purposes there's only this the silver out of twelve for both the base and the autograph and then you get another autograph which is usually a red brand or blue brand autograph it was rare that you got like a future stars autograph i managed to pull blake monroe which was absolutely insane that's a good one but but yeah i had a great time ripping these boxes i ripped three of them i pulled a liv morgan out of thirteen which i just sold i was number or out of twelve one of number number one of twelve so that was really cool i sold that i sold the cody rhodes that i pulled as well out of twelve and then i was lucky enough to pull pull that blake monroe the other cards in there were were not all that entertaining i did manage to hit the brock lesnar house of cards which is like a one of two case hits in a case so i had a great time like it was crazy expensive but it was fun like if those boxes were four or five hundred bucks i would still be ripping them like they're they're that much fun but the low number parallels look great the black refractors especially look great i think the reds will look cool yeah i i'm curious if if you because you got you were out of town like the whole time that this was going on correct you're probably following along on your phone as best you can but i'm not sure if you had any chance to see messages from adam gelman is how i'm following along i i yes i am i'm behind right now just because i was traveling yesterday it was a travel day super busy all day tuesday from literally morning until one or two until i came once i went to bed but i'm excited to catch up i'm in a ton of hobby breaks and delight breaks over the next three or four days so i'm excited to try to pay attention to the people that i can for the most part just to watch it but you were the first person i knew that it showed me some stuff you obviously hit the becky in a break i did shout out to neighborhood card shop and nature loves you they they did pull me the becky lynch autograph fdi which i swear to god this card is one of my favorite looking becky lynch autograph just because of the photo and i love the the silver the reflection is awesome tremendous shout out to them i love i you know he's he's a he's a fellow mass influencers i've been called recently yeah and so you know it's something that you know it's cool when you you you get these cards in a break like the one you wanted to chase and i bought a lot of breaks like it was fun to hit this yeah well congrats it's are you still gonna get an fda breaks or are you done at this point because you got the card there's not many listed okay so i think like that was really interesting to see slot prices were very high i think so it was twelve boxes a case seven hundred fifty dollars a box let's say price average for most people so you're like i mean this is probably one of the most expensive wrestling cases ever ever built at prism f o t l from twenty twenty two like that level of cost so slot prices were were pretty expensive like i i mean becky was two seventy five a case and like i don't even wanna think about what rhea ripley and roman reigns were but you know i know jameson was in a few and hit some nice cards steve was kind of like you know all over the place i think he was kind of upset that you know he couldn't get into more but yeah i mean like i think like these these are the most exclusive versions of like the hobby tops chrome rips so like there just wasn't many of them i if if there's more i'll probably join i mean i'd like to say i'm not going to but i probably will yeah i'm i'm just curious what your thoughts are i'm assuming that depending on where the market is which i think the best pricing i've seen to date is da is about thirteen hundred dollars a box everything else i've seen is minimum fifteen hundred do you anticipate these to go up because they're probably gonna dry up okay that's i i only got i got one case i'm not ripping it i'm debating about going to buy a case so i can rip one to say i did but i also am mad at myself for just not buying more at the drops and i would've just solved that situation so there's only one person to blame it's myself but i really was wanting to rip a case but i like to stash and i hold one of everything that i can this is something that is i think needs to be held i think these will continue to go up because let's be honest what's probably gonna really get ripped is gonna get really ripped over the next week of fdi and then i think everything else left is probably getting put up and waiting in my opinion yeah i don't think i don't like i i've said this a number of times on main event like most of the people who bought these were breakers so the idea and i think like calculations like let's say that there's a two i think there's like a two hundred card base set or something like that i can't even remember at this point but there's there's not many boxes of this and it's sold out so quickly like we still haven't uncovered who got that mass you know allotment of cases i'm really hoping and praying it wasn't backyard but we haven't seen them listed yet i don't think i haven't like i i've seen filth bomb post you know five or six cases i know rgl james got a couple of cases csl got a couple of cases you know like there's there's people one z two z but i mean like where did the rest of these go if like let's say that there's two hundred cases which is pretty standard for an fotl break in wrestling you know where do they all go like i i wanna know where where because you got one i mean collectors were like even though i said there's no way anybody should be buying these unless you have the money to burn like collectors were buying them like i saw a post on twitter of like hey i bought two or three boxes i bought personally two or three boxes and like so i think like maybe through all of the sort of like singular boxes i'm sure they'll show up here in the next couple of days i'm sure that they're gonna have some feedback there but i just haven't seen a ton of these breaks posted i've joined all the ones that i've seen except for a few on whatnot but it's like yeah i'm not sure yeah i don't really i'm kinda with you on this man i really i know when i checked da earlier they you could buy up to three cases again that could change so being that this isn't gonna upload a couple days i'm gonna probably now have to go buy a case because i just think they're gonna go up i really wanna rip one and because you got to rip some boxes and again it was fun you had exactly you had fun with it you did like you said you didn't hit like a crazy home run but you hit two pretty good names to get with liv morgan and cuddy rose i'm sure you got good money for those and you hit that brock lesnar blake monroe autograph's gotta be pretty good as well so that sold that sold higher than i expected it would be so there you go i mean like i'm sure at the end of the day you probably i don't know did you are you gonna come out ahead down what are what are your thoughts i'm coming down yeah a hundred percent down feel like it was fun you know it's like it was a good time i got kicked in the balls but i had a good time and put a smile on my kicked in like there there are some rough boxes of this like don't get me wrong like i opened so the first box had cody rhodes and liv morgan in one box wait one box in one box wow and so if i had stopped with that one box yeah if i had stopped with that one box that would have been good the autograph in that box was x pac the auto the the two in the next box was bronson reed and noam dard i got noam dar which was really bad the autograph was like rusev or something like that the last box was by far the worst the autograph was otis but even like the like the the secondary autographs like got raquel rodriguez i got carmelo hayes i got blake monroe obviously so like even that was a little bit rough like they they were all base autographs like they weren't like any parallels i i really dislike the negative refractors they're like three or four per box or five per box yeah just weird looking cards the viral shock inserts where it have like this green hue on them to like represent a virus i mean like there's quirks like that that i wasn't too fond of but like the the like if i didn't hit that first box i would have absolutely gotten kicked in the balls and thankfully you know like the goal of this was not to come out and make money it was just to rip my favorite product that comes out every year mhmm so that was cool i had a good time but at fifteen hundred dollars a box like pulling bronson reed and noem dahr like plus like an otis auto like oh my god like i can't even imagine what that feels like i'm sure there's national treasures football boxes out there like that when you don't hit the a box in the case or whatever you get stuck with the c box like that's how it feels at fifteen hundred dollars you better pray to the fucking card gods that somebody looks down upon you and smiles or at least winks at you yeah that's that's the one one issue you got but i mean again like you said you have not seen any garbage pail come out yet of any fdi i saw one yeah i saw one okay yeah again you know we don't really i guess time will tell it's still early to know how these are gonna rip as far as all cases goes again till you could watch more and more and more but overall it is the first time ever in wwe for a first day issue these will be big long term they will be worth stashing yes and they will get dried up before you know it and and the day and age now when i think you computed maybe a hundred and sixty to a hundred and seventy cases so if yeah if it's like so like if there's two so if there's two cards two out of twelve per box yep at a two hundred card checklist and i think it's two hundred and if it's three hundred it's maybe okay maybe it's a a third more but it's it's not it's like we're at like a hundred and seventy five cases it's not many yeah it's not and that's that could get ripped pretty fairly quick so yeah i think like just for next year like i i wanna see i wanna see better collation i think that's been a constant problem with tops products like they they don't mix up the packs they don't mix up the the people in the autograph slots like if you hit this it's pretty common you'll hit that and like that should never happen but it's just like it it just tells me that these were on a stacked loop that in the machine packing that really just didn't vary and they just need to go in there and shuffle the cards a little bit better but that's handled by a third party i don't even know if that's tops that's telling them what to do with request no i don't think it is so i mean like that may not even be a tops problem it's just the company they work with to pack out this product but yeah i mean like the the autographs look stunning in hand i mean like even though i didn't pull great ones like in roo7 xbox like they like you hold them in your hand they stand out you put them on a shelf they stand out and that's why i was so happy to get the becky one because there's only twelve so like traditionally these types of parallels don't sell well but these look so freaking good like maybe they do it's like liquid silver it's it's like terminator style it's awesome but for next year i'd like to see better collation the the the dutch auction needs to be better managed where the pricing starts at a better level so people can figure out what they wanna do a little bit besides the three levels that we had to make a decision to your point but yeah i think like the inserts look ten times better than last year the base cards look better than last year the like all the different aspects of this really do look better than last year topps chrome as a whole feels like a complete upgrade we haven't even seen the meat of it yet like i i still think like breakers delight like i haven't seen a breakers delight card i have seen some of the exclusive mega box parallels but i haven't seen like some of the other stuff like we haven't even we're just scratching the surface at this point tomorrow's or sorry if you listen to this but friday release day you're just gonna see a plethora of this stuff everywhere so i'm curious to see what comes out of everything and the delights which we'll talk about shortly is broke pretty good so yeah for you for sure well we did a we did a preview on the podcast today but we'll we'll talk about that let's get on to let's go on to royalty here because this is a big yeah so royalty was officially solicited to all the people at the conference which means that it got out pretty quickly to everybody else it's gonna release on may first i think we've talked about early may on this podcast a number of times because you know sometimes it's it's a little bit easier when you're get direct lines of communication but i think like six autographs per box is huge like that's more than i think we saw in a lot of the premium products that that have been in the in previous wwe tons of event used they preview a lot of that at the conference john cena you know has some cool stuff plus like like this isn't as big of a deal because we've seen them signing the cards so like if we hadn't seen them the the wrestlers spoil the party in literally every week for the last you know couple of months like this wouldn't be as big of a a this would be a much bigger release of the information but because we had all of that like really the the release date and the number of autographs per per box are really what i took away as the major part of this news and so i think like you know i'm really excited for it i i'm you know i'm kinda mixed on the way some of the cards look they're really kind of like i'm gonna get you sucker they're over foiled instead of o g'd over gold but you know i think like it's there's a lot of foil there's a lot of really premium elements to it there should be liquid gold and liquid silver cards if ufc you know plays into it that will be a really cool element because those cards are crazy hard to hit and they're really expensive the wrestlemania patches we gotta look at tiffany stratton for the first time that's a really cool card looking card i mean overall like royalty coming out on may first is way too soon after tops chrome but it's way too late in the grand scheme of things so like you you're damned if you do and damned if you don't in a lot of ways so that was my only feedback there so it's funny that you mentioned so they announced this as the as tim trout's on stage talking about royalty lo and behold i get an email you've been solicited for top wwe royalty and i was like what more immaculate better timing to get our solicitation so i do know and i'm not gonna say very very limited solicitation on wave one that's all i can say not a lot of this is gonna get out two shops some of it will but just know that i'm curious as a whole how many they're making but this is going to be a premium product it's gonna be hard to get your hands on it and it's gonna be incredible hold on product yeah i'm a i'm a pause the recording here for one second just give me one second here sorry about that so i think like for for royalty specifically like this is this is gonna be the most premium product of the year it's gonna rival probably what flawless represented in twenty twenty four i don't think it's at that level completely but it's close especially i will say to interrupt you on that yeah is while it's fresh in my mind is the fact that we will see record breaking numbers come out a wrestling card record breaking numbers for wrestlers with these debut patches versus anything we saw in flawless ever sell i think you're gonna see numbers that you'll never see in flawless you're gonna see in this product from singles does that make sense yes absolutely i think that's what we're about to see i don't i don't think any card in flawless is gonna sell for the amount of money a wrestlemania autograph will sell for no i think like some of the dual autographs and the event used stuff are gonna sell for insane money like even the coffin relics for the undertaker i mean those are gonna be big we'll cover just because we are like this is so much to discuss we'll cover royalty more in-depth as we get closer to the release but like people are genuinely excited for it as they should be like this is a big deal it's gonna be crazy expensive ryan's predicting a thousand dollars a box i think it'll maybe start there but i think it's gonna go up i think it's gonna go up yeah i think it's gonna start there is what i honestly thought alright as if that wasn't enough we also got all the information on topps chrome logo fractor edition which is the exclusive product for wwe world that happened this week as well if you guys remember what happened with cactus jack wrestlemania edition last year this is the replacement for that we speculated that because cactus jack is no longer really aligned with wwe in that type of a branding scenario and travis scott has kinda had a falling out like we didn't expect cactus jack to come back and nor do i think anybody really wanted that to happen not that the wrestlemania edition was bad i actually thought it was pretty fun but the hobby side of it really sort of crashed the market on a bunch of stuff and i'm glad that they've they switched it up did we need topps chrome logo fracture edition to be that replacement i think that's yet to be seen but from like from previous logo fracture boxes that i've ripped because i have ripped the f one i have ripped you know just some random stuff here and there and logofractor is really cool so the preview images don't really do it justice so if you're following along with us on patreon you can see what they look like they're also posted by steve and i on on social media and topps has this all over everything as well but when you hold these cards in your hand and you sort of tilt it back and forth the refractor pattern has the wwe logo in it which is hence why it's called logo refractor but it's it they they look really cool but it's gonna be exceptionally limited likely through the same process they had at last year unless things change things can always change i've asked a few people at tops i'm not gonna say names and at this point they aren't sure if it's gonna go the same process as last year at this time i'm sure we'll find out okay maybe i'm hoping we have a answer for this going into the podcast next thursday next week we'll record next tuesday so basically because i'm gonna be there i wanna get my hand on these i'm ripping every box that we get i don't know now we have to go to mania world to get that and what we're staying at versus mania world it's like on the other end of the strip so i don't know if it was like ten mile walk yeah yeah we're we're not doing that i have three little kids so i shan's like well you and neil and parker can go and we'll hang out the pool and i'm like i kinda may need you to go with me so i can get more of we need all the hands on deck i need all hands on deck if they're gonna do a thing where you have to go daily i don't know i'm i'm curious how they're gonna play this out because obviously they're gonna have to limit how people get in how much they could buy because otherwise people are just gonna go up there and buy everything they can yeah and i it's a million dollar question right now how are they gonna handle this yeah and i i haven't been told anything yet i'm just speculating that it's gonna be a similar process last year was an eql lottery you got one box per day people went and maximized that they did do some solicitations out to breakers so i'm not sure that this is gonna be exclusive to wrestlemania world like cactus jack was so we could see it on stockx logofractor is is one of those products that they've tended to involve some of their partners and we may see it similar to the way that it was on travis scott's website who knows but it is gonna be a limited release there's just it it just seems to me like things are are gonna be limited the photos have changed so like they're gonna have exclusive photos new signers in this product so like kendall gray is having her first topps autograph in this she's a very hot commodity she'll probably be one of the top chases but yeah they've got stone cold they've got rhea ripley the checklist is already out so when they released the tops chrome checklist they also released the logo fracture checklist it's different so just because somebody was us in a spot in one place does not mean that they're in a spot for another place looks like they had limited access to some of the signers so we'll have to see how that all plays out but i i think this is really cool that they continue to do exclusive products i hope they do something like this for fanatics fest as well because it just adds you know some of that chase and that stuff but the the tagline for it is like embrace the rare so you can imagine like this isn't gonna be a widespread release no remember the time when we're all itching for a wwe product and now we've gone from universe exalted chrome logofractor and royalty all by may first and that's just crazy to think that that's wow so that's really all i i had from from a highspot's perspective but you know i think like i wanna just touch on a few things i'm not gonna cover sales this week because we're already like fifty minutes into this podcast and like we still have a huge announcement to do and i wanna rip a box of chrome with ryan here he brought one into the room so we could do that as well delight but you know like guys like there's a lot of hype around chrome right now as as it should be like chrome is the biggest release of the year like royalty is the most you know premium release of the year but chrome's it like chrome is what drives so much of the wwe market just like prism did when when panini was around and i think like like there's so much here to that we haven't unpacked yet we're gonna have a lot more to talk about next week we're gonna have a special guest join us as well to to do that and i think like you know i've had a blast i've already had two major polls thankfully not skunking on those but i mean like i like the number of cases that i have bought into here is bordering on insanity i know multiple people are are doing the same strategy ryan's gotten a number of cases i'm sure for his guys not as much as you adam but at least much as me in your defense you only have to buy one wrestler i have to buy up to four give or take how the brakes breaking down so yeah but i mean like like this is this is so when i was a kid like i this was my product this is my jam i've said that every week that we've talked about chrome for a reason and like the the feeling that i get here like if i had to just look at this first impressions like we're already at a four four and a half stars out of five like for me personally like yeah there's some nitpicky things like some of the photos are too dark or this thing or the other thing like they use a weird photo for rhea ripley or whatever which is unfortunate but like you know for everything else like the obafemi card looks absolutely insane you know like there's so many good photos like even the hogan card which i don't give a crap about hulk hogan but man that card looks awesome like you know there's so many different guys like that i still haven't seen the joe hendrie card he's a new guy in this the debut patches look great like they finally previewed what those are gonna look like for for stephanie vaccare they did that awesome hype video at at the at the conference and they got reposted on social media with her sort of like with triple h it was really well done so i mean like topps is making this feel like a holiday and like that's really cool to me because i don't think we've don't think we got that last year at all no we got some of it we it was it was little hype it was hyped up i mean everybody was pretty excited but no i think everything that they've been disclosing the past two weeks has just made the product more and more desirable to rip or join breaks i think they they loaded and injected it so much insane stuff to this year's tops chrome that that i'm thoroughly excited for all the breaks mean i'm excited to start ripping some with my family it's it's always a fun rip i mean i like i told you before and there i ripped five cases of twenty fourteen tops chrome w to b on release day at like forty bucks a box god times have changed yeah yeah exactly and like i think there's gonna be like i'll close it out by saying like i know that there's gonna be pushback on the price like the the price the barrier to entry now includes price and that's really like since twenty twenty two that's been a thing now it hasn't been this much of a thing but there's been complaining as far back as two thousand three when exquisite was first released i mean the the uproar when upper deck first put out exquisite was insane i remember it because i was just on the verge of like coming back into the hobby that was one of the first things that really brought me back was holy crap there's a five hundred dollar box of cards like oh my god like and that was the reaction that everybody had now it's like well that's just kind of like the way things go standard now it's just a standard and like things have changed but every part of my life has gotten more expensive it cost me a hundred dollars to fill up my car and it's just like those things change dramatically on a dime but you know at the very least like we have so much hype and and and stuff around this that people are gonna have a visceral reaction to either being completely caught up in the fomo completely caught up in the hype or they're gonna completely rebel against it and i think like you don't have to choose sides like you can absolutely say yes this is way too expensive i'm really unhappy that this is expensive but man does this look cool right and like that's that's kind of the the the way that i was sort of looking at this from some perspectives and and i'm gonna talk on the the blaster front i talked about this and just something to educate the listeners too if you have a local hobby shop who's direct with tops tops is rolling out a program to hobby shops called the retail reserve program and it's to get you more quantity of blasters however you're required to be srp for the first thirty days these blasters are srp of thirty dollars so listen up if your local hobby shop has them they better be on those shelves for thirty dollars if they're getting it direct from tops we will be thirty dollars a box for the first thirty days these are a no brainer rip at thirty dollars a box these last years are what eighty bucks a box now maybe a i don't even know what they're at now maybe a hundred and this year should be way better but just remember that this that is why tops is pushing for this for the consumer to get the opportunity to open dive into wwe versus maybe they're a baseball person but they wanna rip wwe these boxes are trending on online retailers right now for i think forty five fifty bucks a blaster where they're not required to do that i am thrilled to do that for my people that support us yeah for sure dollars a box i was messaging my rep about today and say how excited i am like yes there will be limiting things because we would like these to last but i went on topps' website on released or sorry the prerelease for hobby i had no luck getting hobby i got a mega case and i got maxed out on the hot the blaster boxes i paid thirty dollars a box to get more blaster boxes plus tax so technically if i were to sell those now i'd be losing money but i'm buying those for long term to hold and stuff like that so just remember if you're going to a local hobby shop you need to say something if they're not thirty bucks and they're direct it's first thirty days you should say something because they're not following the guidelines the contract that they signed that is what i'm most excited about what tops is doing is saying we want more people to get a better overall experience these are built to be thirty dollars a blaster you should be able to rip at this and you should be charging this for at least the first thirty days and let's let's also talk about the mega boxes that have been ripped have the mini diamonds parallel so there's like exclusive cars in there so i don't think like there's like they seem to have like continued to load up the mega boxes too so i think those are like you know seventy or eighty dollars or whatever it is but like like the retail like we saw for select with panini really does have its own chases and stuff like that so like don't feel like because i did see people pulling gold refractor autographs out of a mega box so you will have access to a lot of the same hobby parallels for the main cards even though the base card parallels are probably a little bit different the lit morgan super last year got pulled from a blaster box yeah exactly so they're they're gonna have aspects of the hobby product available in retail and that's by design because i think topps isn't stupid like they're not sitting around a conference table saying how are we gonna screw the collectors this time around like they they do want us understand i think they do have a clear understanding that like when these things happen there's aspects of it that they can control which is the offer that they make to the dealers and to on their website and stuff like that but once it leaves their hands like lot of it is out of their control and what's even funnier is like i remember when panini released minimum advertised pricing plan and you had to sell the boxes at a certain price because they were going the other direction they were gonna go down after thirty days yeah that's that's how it was part of how that has changed as well but like i think like overall like these blasters and megas are are really ripped quite a bit because they are an accessible point for a lot of people and i talked about it on main event that if you're a lower budget collector which is fine that's great like there's a lot of people out there who don't have you know the kind of money to spend on a box of this i'm not going out and ripping my own personal box this is too much money so i mean like but i i think that you know god help the people that don't use the breaking community if you're a rap if you're a ripper like and you wanna go get in breaks that's awesome if you're one of those people that likes to rip and doesn't support the breaking community god help you like there's there's like it's gonna be really hard to continue to exist in this hobby and i think there's enough trustworthy people like you know like we had stephanie on the podcast before and she talked about the integrity that she brings to her brand and i think that's really important for people to realize it's not just all the flea market people and whatnot like there are pros out there that do it right and there are pros out there that we work with on a regular basis and we break with on a regular basis because they bring value there and you can't yeah you can blame them for whatever you want but they're this is the era this is the reality i also wanna plug i have been doing a release guide for tops chrome every single day this past week on main event wrestling cards so starting on monday and going all the way through to to the launch day there is an article a day steve's been pumping out content like nobody's business he's been covering all the exclusive previews that we got because tops was awesome sent over exclusive previews for me exclusive previews for steve just a ton of awesome cards i think like bron breaker with his steiner math card was insane but so like stuff like that really gets me fired up and it's good to be that that topps is recognizing that the content creators in this space are worth investing in as well so that that's good like it's it's good for the hobby it's good for for everybody in that respect alright are you ready for the big announcement let's do it so for everybody out there who has been to the national convention we have gotten a ton of feedback over the last few years that the wrestling card trade night was an event that people look forward to every single time we did the main event you know a number of times and it was insanely successful last year we decided to to take a break a little bit but you know we are back this year thanks to brett and thanks to ryan and some of the other people that we're gonna be working with thanks to adam yes i am the party planner we are gonna be launching the first ever book to last wrestling card takeover chicago so on friday july thirty first at the embassy suites in rosemont starting at around six pm we're still working out some of the logistics and what time we're actually gonna start we are gonna be bringing back like this community event and it's gonna be even bigger even better so many more things are gonna happen here than we could have ever imagined and like this is you know an opportunity for for you as a collector for you as a member of the community to present your brand to like the the rest of this biggest growing community like this is going to be something that we hope will last for as long as we can continue to put it out there we have a ton of space three hundred and fifty people can join us for this if not more we expect people to come in and out but go trade with your friends be a part of the giveaways we're gonna be recording content there we're gonna be doing some networking like all of the things that make this this last couple of events so awesome we're bringing that and more so it's gonna be presented by you know all of us at the stacking slabs network here with ryan and and myself and brett and everybody on board we're we're still trying to get some major people on board as well as we get going through this but you know if you are a wrestling collector and you are making plans for the summer this should be on your list to join us at the national convention not only because the national convention's amazing but because we're gonna have this specifically for you guys yes think about this weekend that is gonna be friday you get wrestling card takeover and then saturday and sunday you get summerslam what a three day weekend i'm excited i used to stay at the embassy a lot i went over there in march and met with the coordinator and looked into the venue and everything like that this is going to be epic adam how far we have come since the first ever one you did years ago in chicago to what this is going to be now i i can't say thank you enough to adam adam is he's amazing when it comes to stuff he he really is he's not gonna take as much credit as he should but we wouldn't be at this position without adam i i've definitely have a great relationship with the national sports cards collect nsece you know committee there they're amazing they're giving us this opportunity to branch out to you the wrestling collectors we're excited to have this opportunity for all of you i i cannot wait for this event this is going to be awesome there is so much gonna come in very soon we're we're almost there what are we on the last home stretch where we yeah a couple of months like maybe a hundred days give or take out right now so there's gonna be more information coming but we're excited to announce this today this has been something we've been working on for i don't know how many months now two two months at least two yeah two or two months yeah you know quietly and and it's locked and ready to go so adam i'm excited to see what this has be you know become has become and i'm excited to see this whole day happen it's gonna be amazing for the wrestling card community there's no question yeah so we're gonna have because of the space and because we wanna keep this separate from the other events that are going on at the national we've been granted that ability by the committee so huge thank you to them thank you they have a lot of trust they have a lot of trust in our community because we did you know such a good job with this in in in bringing forth the the the goals of our community over the last few years so like that trust was earned and as a result we've been given this opportunity to do this again and so there's gonna be specific things that we want our community to participate in to ensure that the people at this event are wrestling card collectors and not just random guys going to the national convention to trade sports cards so there's gonna be things that you have to be paying attention to book to last you have to be paying attention to main event wrestling cards we're gonna put this on all of our social media at r b i crew seven it'll be everywhere we promise you will get the information as long as you are listening to this podcast or following along on main event or us on social media but there's gonna be tons of stuff that we wanna talk about here we're still trying to align some of the major aspects of it but we can guarantee that it is not a waste for you to plan your national trip about being there on friday night this is gonna be epic food and drink it's gonna be just so much fun just to be a part of this and i can't wait to to help bring this back to the community after a years year long break on thursday night so the trade night that is the official trade night for the national we will be setting up there as well it's not gonna be the official sort of party but we will have representatives at the actual trade night on thursday and on saturday so that was one of the things that we also wanted to highlight is that the national is really making a huge effort to make these spaces available to collectors to do trading and so on and so forth so we're gonna support that as well with a wrestling card sort of group that can be at those events but this is gonna this is for you guys like we're putting this on zero cost completely free you're not gonna have to pay a dime to attend all we want you to do is be a wrestling card collector and be a part of our community and come and support this that's what this was designed to be originally and is what is gonna continue to be as long as i'm and ryan are at the heads of this with brett now as a partner has been so much great so much thanks to him for providing that platform and like giving us this this opportunity on our podcast to to talk about this and to to be a sponsor as well for for the event but stay tuned like this we this is just the beginning this is the announcement phase so we haven't even got to the other fun stuff but i i can't wait to see what this eventually sort of when we get to that for friday night event i'm literally missing summerslam events in minneapolis where i'm from to to be a part of this yep yeah and like so that's how important this is to me as as somebody so really awesome to to bring this forward and and thank you ryan for at least providing some of the the logistics here upfront with the committee and the hotel and everything like that because i know you were in the chicago area for a show and helped us sort of solidify the venue and everything like that but we've got a lot of space guys we've got a lot of room there's gonna be tons of tables like we're gonna do awesome stuff with the content you'll maybe even do some live podcast recording and if we're lucky we might even have the space longer through the day so that might actually be like a community space that we can work towards through the whole day so can't wait to bring this really excited yep this is gonna beer for you know it and after mania for me i'm i'm diving head first into this with adam we're gonna be bringing on some great people in the community so just stay tuned i'm sure we'll be touching on this probably every week leading up to the road to the wrestling car takeover in chicago so once we have a way to to get people the information and sort of get on the mailing list like yeah for sure alright we are at the time where we wanna finally see the topps chromebox and i'm gonna take my screen off the the stage here for the recording on patreon ryan has a breakers delight box of topps chrome these are probably what they're at this point i think they're like six or seven hundred dollars seven hundred dollars boxes they're over seven hundred bucks right now they so you get three autos in here we did a a box on the the podcast this morning i was conned into doing another box instead of the two hobby which by the way our hobby we hit one of the boxes knew i had two autos was bruce the beefcake shout out to ryan scheer and sol rooka so cool and then the other box i hit julius creed and rhea ripley auto that was and then delight i did i hit my worst auto is izzy dame i hit another ria and a redemption variation for brock lesnar auto wow that's crazy dude let's hope we get something good here too yeah let's here we go i'm gonna do this unless this case is dead that's interesting looking we'll see what that is alright here we go starting off here we got the ms and these are all geometric parallel that's a geometric parallel correct alright different than the than the traditional sort of box here alright slowly there's a cree brother is that julius another cree brother so last year they had i don't think they had like the base geometrics last year did they i can't i got a garbage pail kids oh i just got a garbage pail kids alright let's go let's go here we go oh randy orton oh my god he pulled randy orton rigg he pulled randy rigg i just pulled the randy orton on the podcast for my pc insane i saw randy orton i'm like there's no way i'm getting randy orton wow that is absolutely awesome garbage pail kids randy orton on the podcast with the top randy orton collector you can't beat that i got three autos i'm gonna set there wow that just happened for the pc for life so here we go we got a piper niven here at two seventy five yep looks like a yellow is that penta a penta we got penta penta pink here that's number three ninety nine sorry i'm away from the cap i'm trying to show this on camera we got here really nice this is the golden geometric yeah ten of fifty i am so pumped right now we got is that angelo dawkins yeah angelo dawkins number six and nine nine for green is that maxine dupree dupree that's number to one fifty and our last one here before i do the it's not bad here aj lee to one fifty oh that's a nice one aj lee one gosh rattelio i cannot believe you pulled the garbage bill kid that is so crazy you see could you hear me you'll see look in the mirror he's looking through alright here we go i'm gonna go auto from the back here let me use aj lee here to cover this show this right here that our truth nice okay okay we'll extend it on his auto okay next one here let's go with oh upside down oh that is we got no amdard we got no amdard oh you got no amdard thirty six fifty okay gold refractor geometric of no amdard yeah and then my last one here i don't see the back so i wanna slow roll oh good event gunther nice nice main event gold twenty seven of fifty everybody's actually like at the window right now excited give me thumbs up that's awesome for randy orton this meant to be that's insane that that just happened that oh that gunther looks awesome the main event that card really pops and it is g s so they do have geometric parallels of the base variation autographs which weren't a thing last year and they have geometric parallels at least of main event which is cool because it has like the saturday night's main event sort of theme to the card and i wish this was not an audio format for everybody we could see ryan's reaction to pulling the one garbage failed kids card that he actually wanted which is just nuts wow congratulations there my friend thank you man well that i mean now if i hit one in a break it won't mean i'll have to like i'll have to get this gray it's probably not gonna gray well it's got some surface stuff it's it's fine it's it's pulled by me last year parker pulled me not last year a couple years ago the prism color blast orton and then i'm sure enough i remember that yeah i bought the bray wyatt for parker and sure enough the kid pulls himself one like release day and i was like it didn't even come in the mail yet so that was what moments like this are about wow that meant to be i guess or rigg one of the other you pick or she's supposed be yeah exactly so that was so i listen like there's gonna be every reason to get excited about watching breaks i i like i haven't seen breakers delight yet because we are like you know we are recording this a little bit early but it's not gonna air until the product is live tomorrow so like i think like seeing breakers delight there's a lot more cards in there that i think i expected from last year a lot more geometric stuff there's also some base parallels in there too mhmm i i would expect that you know there's there's gonna be some fireworks coming out of a lot of these hobby and breakers delight cases i still haven't seen a live nineteen eighty six auto i know alex pulled one on his stream but like there's there's all of that is wasn't really part of the fdi breaks i was watching so like there's still so much stuff left to do we're at a an hour and fifteen minutes so we're already running overtime but you know that's why i think like we didn't even cover the sales this week like we didn't cover anything and that's how much craziness exists in wrestling cards right now like tell me you are not like the the most hype that you have ever been coming off the industry conference coming into wrestlemania of like we haven't even talked about wrestlemania no exact i was you're like we have a whole full slate today and i thought we were gonna get on wrestlemania at least talk about high spots in the hobby this week so i i was texting adam and brett this morning and said i hope i'm awake by the time we record this today because i'm i've been dragging all day right there i'm awake i'm going home and pumped up but no we are on the road to wrestlemania we are so close and finally decided to pull the trigger i'm taking all three kids my wife and neil yeah it's gonna be so we're we're we pulled the trigger we booked flights last night booked hotels today we are going we're gonna be there friday saturday and sunday we're flying in late thursday and we leave monday so listeners if you're going to be there reach out to me r b a crew seven i'm best at instagram if you hit me up in the x you can ask adam i suck at it but if you hit me up i'd love to meet up with anybody i can especially like mania world or just to say hi i'm excited this is my first mania ever i've never been to mania it's one of those things where i wanted to thing yeah it was a well it wasn't just a bucket list it was i wanted to experience my first one ever with my kids and i wanted to experience with all three of them so it's something where i don't know when we'll get an opportunity to go because obviously it's saudi next year which not happening but i'm not overly ecstatic that i'm going to vegas but we're staying in a nice hotel that's got a good water park very close to the stadium i i think overall we're gonna keep so busy with i think we're gonna go check out cardvault they're doing some wrestling guys there breaking and then i'm gonna probably go hit up with blez as well so this is gonna be a jam packed weekend a lot going on you gotta remember vegas it the gates open at two thirty to get in it kicks off at four thirty or five vegas time so it's like i'm not gonna get a lot saturday or sunday running it early aren't they like they're running it earlier than they usually do ufc thing or whatever yeah i think they're trying to do that so i'm excited i can't wait so please let me know if you're gonna be there i'd love to just meet up as many people as we can so yeah and we'll so when ryan gets so like next week we're gonna have brian who is thc sports cards on the podcast excited to have him mhmm and we'll talk about topps chrome we'll talk about sort of his approach but we'll we'll cover we'll go more much more in-depth into wrestlemania and sort of what to expect with the card market we'll also do some follow-up the week after now that ryan will have been there and back hopefully you know at some point in the future we'll have like a full wrestlemania recap and stuff like that all the tops now stuff that they have planned which is insane i from what i understand i know bless is doing a huge thing for wrestlemania just because they've already released part of it today which is as we're speaking so it'll probably be gone by the time this podcast is live but they're doing like a big memorabilia thing today it's clear that they're heavily invested in wrestlemania too which is cool i i don't know what that will eventually look like but you know it seems like they're gonna be doing something fun i know a lot of the breakers have wrestlemania stuff planned we'll we'll try and get into that we'll also go a little bit deeper into the wrestling card takeover and some of the things that we're planning there i mean guys like if you aren't subscribed to stacking slabs and you're not on patreon watching us be sure to do that w w w dot patreon dot com slash stacking slabs hell a damn friend hell a damn friend yeah as brett always says we're also on like twitter and social media this week have been blowing up because of all the news and stuff like that make sure you're following myself at sc uncensored on twitter and at w w e gellman on instagram ryan is at r b i crew seven on everything and lastly like huge thanks to steve who is running overtime on main event wrestling cards w w w dot patreon dot com slash main event wrestling cards completely free to join please join we we literally are posting multiple times a day at this point it probably will be that way through i don't know through sapphire or you know whatever comes after royalty so i mean like we're we're churning out content like nobody's business we have the release guide up for tops chrome we're gonna continue to do stuff like that so huge thanks to steve for helping me with main events but until then we will see you next week big gulps see you later