Welcome back. Auction Talk. We're gonna talk about a lot of cards that sold this last week, because there was a lot of bangers that sold.

So that's what this show is all about. We're gonna cover just I've got tabs on top of tabs open. Nick, you were in the crossfire of many of those sales.

So, excited to dig into those with you, but what's going on? How are you doing? I'm good, man. That was, one of the craziest, Saturday night auction, inventories we've seen in a long time.

There were some big sales. There were some sales that maybe, didn't perform the way people thought they were. But regardless, there was a lot of huge cards across multiple auctions, so it was a fun weekend.

Well, there's a bunch of cards listed, but I didn't even, like, maybe take the time to think about, like, the cards that didn't perform. So maybe if there are those oh, let's start let's start with this.

Can you just give we'll start with the bad maybe. Like, what is a card that you're thinking of if that didn't necessarily perform like it should've or the hobby thought it should've?

I think it I think this one, most people are on the same, page on, and and we're gonna talk about it later, but we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead. I know what you're gonna say. Are you gonna talk about the Kobe? The Kobe. The Kobe.

Let's just start with the Kobe. No. Pull it up. Pull up the Kobe, man. It's I got it. So we're talking about the 90 7, you know, Kobe central credentials now at a eight b G s 9. got it on the screen here for you Patreon members.

Hey. Wait, Nick. What kind of world are we living in right now? I work. 505 hundred and $79,500 is disappointing. It's disappointing. Yeah. Upside down world. We are sickos, like you like to say.

It's sold for $579,500. So, I mean, we're talking about over half a million dollars for a card with eight copies, not a rookie card. Like, it's crazy. But I think everybody was going off the Iverson sale. Right? It's out of three.

I think it was a PSA seven or something like that, if I remember. It was a technically lower grade, that sold for $700,000. So everybody I talked to, I I was honestly in the same boat, but I was kinda just going off I was lazy.

I was just going off that Iverson sale, and I just thought this would do a million dollars or more just because we're talking about Kobe. Right? It's like Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, and then way down here is everybody else.

Right? Like, so I didn't even think there was a question they would do a million or more because we haven't seen one of these sell publicly forever, the Iverson sale.

Like, I mean, I just thought it would happen. So when it went for much less than a million, it was like, what happened? And, so that was my initial reaction.

I'll talk about what I've what I kinda seen people say so far, but what were your thoughts, on that sale and what you've seen so far? You know, initially, my reaction was probably like most everyone's.

Like, I can't believe this card sold for less than the Iverson. But, and correct me if I'm wrong. There there had been public sales of this card previously. Right? I I think there has been.

You know, obviously, just it's been a while. Yeah. It's been a while. But then to see it sell, much less than the Iverson like, my next mode went to okay. Well, let's look at how many copies. Right? You're comparing the serial number.

Eight copies to three copies. It that is that the Adverson's three copies. Right? Correct. Yeah. Correct. So then it's like, my brain goes to that, and it's like, is it a rarity thing, like, based on there being few?

And to me, like, dude, I couldn't, like, bring myself in that moment to be like, oh, because the Iverson has five less copies.

That means it's that means that justifies it being however much more, 200 plus thousand more than the Kobe or whatever it is.

And I dude, I just, like, come down to this realization or this moment in time of being like and I've been using this a lot recently in cards. And it and it's just it's it's it's not black and white.

Like Yes. It's very gray. One player's performance doesn't justify this. Number of copies doesn't justify this. It's just like that moment in time, who has the money and who wants to buy the card and how much.

There's all of these variables that go into place, which at times might cause a Kobe Bryant card that people thought were a million dollars to go for, much less.

Because maybe the people the person who bid on the Iverson and won the Iverson was taken out of the pool for this. So it's like you can go down that laundry list of stuff.

And I think we as hobby enthusiasts and collectors and try to think about everything, and we wanted to have control and think about, like, this is what this card is gonna go for because this card went for x, and it's just not how it works.

It never works that way. And so I think this is an example of where a opportunity where we as collectors just have to take a step back and be like, no matter what we think we know, we never truly know until that auction ends.

So that's I have not necessarily seen, like, what the conversation and commentary has been on the back end, so maybe you can paint some of that picture.

But my thoughts on this is just like it's just this is this is how the hobby works. Like, it's just because of one sale happened doesn't mean that this sale is gonna be, you know, above that one.

It's just conditions, economic conditions, hobby can do all those things kind of, come together and, you know, cause these prices.

And so I think that's just with this card. It's like it's probably really hard to justify and explain. That's such a good point, man. And I before I say the other stuff, I wanna, you know, keep going on what you said.

The Iverson sale, like, I kinda just assumed it was a set collector that probably bought that and or an Iverson guy. Like, it's like, I I'm like, for that car to do 700 k, like, they have to like Iverson at least a little bit.

And then they probably you know, it puts more icing on the cake if they're trying to collect that that set because it's like, there's only three of those, so you gotta jump on it when it comes up.

So those drove the price. And then, like you said, if it was a set collector, what if they already had the Kobe? We don't and we didn't know that.

Right? You take you take the biggest bidder out of that because that Iverson, it might have only had two bidders for the last $300,000. We don't know. Like you said, this is just information we we might never know.

But I did look up this according to Car Ladder, this is the first sale public sale of this car. Now their data doesn't always go back, like, until the you know, it might only go back to 02/2020 or 02/2015 or something like that.

So I would guess it's probably sold publicly, but it's probably been a a long time, like, since the market was a totally different market.

But but some of the stuff I saw on Instagram was people talking about the the coloring on this card. And if you look at the scan, it looks more like yellow and gold, and we know that this card, the nows are more green.

Like, they're it's it's it's predominantly green where it looks kinda yellow here. I kinda just thought it was the way the scan was.

Like, it's hard to capture the colors in a scan a lot of times. You know what I mean? So, like, if you could pull up I don't know if you can pull up the, Iverson, like, on card ladder or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Iverson. But people were saying, like, this this card looks like it's yellowing, kinda like, one person pointed it out that a card a lot of us know, the Dunkin' Go Nuts, how it's an acetate card, but those, like, get yellow over time.

And then when you scan it, it looks it looks yellow. And a lot of people were saying, like, the real Kobe collectors knew that this the condition of this card was not ideal. Like, the coloring was fading.

And that could've happened afterwards grading. So so Brett just pulled up the Iverson credentials now for the Patreon people, and you can see it's green and, like, neon green. And then it's like the kind of silver foil or whatever.

So that COVID does not look that way. It looks yellow. So I I I would say the condition played a big role in it and or maybe a set collector already had the Kobe and didn't didn't need it, so they didn't bid.

Dude, I it's crazy that we live in a world where you can look at a price like that, and there can be unhappy people and people like but, dude, here's a question.

And this is a I I don't wanna set off a nuclear bomb here because there's plenty unbelievable, awesome nineties collectors who listen to the show, and I appreciate your support.

Like, to me, the the if that's the case with the coloring, like, you've got coloring.

You've got, serial number issues. You've got the backdoor copies. Like, this is not a don't collect nineties. Nineties are one of the best categories of all time in all of sports cards.

But, like, if if that is the case with coloring issues, doesn't that just add another especially with the way these these cards are selling for, doesn't that just add another layer of caution that any high end nineties collector should go through when buying these cards?

It's it and and this is I'm not saying that this isn't going to be the same for this current era we're in, you know, thirty years from now.

It's just the time hasn't passed, but it feels like there's there's some there's some warts here during with the way these cards are cared for or with manipulation or manufacturers closing down that.

It's just if you're gonna get into this category, you should learn from someone who has been doing it for a long time so you can spot these things so you're not the mark or someone who's paying for something that overpaying for something that's not as good as another copy sort of a thing.

It's so true, man. There's so many layers of, education on these cards. And then, like, I mean, a card like this, if you store it wrong, can ruin the card.

You know what I mean? Like, it's just like things like that that you don't really have to think about as much with ultra modern cards because they've kinda solved for all those things, or most of those things.

But this was also on a Beckett holder. You know? If it was in a PSA holder, like, you know, if if there was ever serial numbering concerns, which I hadn't heard on this card, but, like, you there's more conviction in PSA holders.

Right? And they have their guarantee and all that good stuff. So, like, there is a lot of layers to think about, especially when you're spending this much money, man.

But, like, imagine this is the let's say this is a coloring issue and the other seven copies look normal. They're they're the green with the neon green coloring, like you normally see on this card. Like, man, what are those worth then?

You know, if it was coloring that held this back, those are a million and a half dollar cards probably. So I I I really wanna know what the seller is thinking after this sale. Like, did they know, like, alright.

Coloring on this isn't great. It's not gonna do what the Iverson did. Or did they think, like because this this woulda had to been sent in before the Iverson appeared because it started during that auction, I believe.

The Iverson was still going, I believe, or at least the preview of this golden auction started while the Iverson was live.

So that that means they woulda had to send it in weeks before that to get it processed and locked into the auction and all that stuff.

So that person probably didn't know unless they had the inside information on the seller of the Iverson.

Probably didn't know the Iverson was gonna go to auction. So I'm very curious with the seller how the seller feels after this sale now with all that information. They might still be happy.

They might have thought the coloring is gonna hold this thing back. If I can get half a million dollars, I'll be thrilled. Yeah. I mean, especially too if, you know, they've they've been holding on this to this card for ever.

You know? Yeah. Who knows how long they've had this card? That's crazy. Oh, wow. Okay. So let's we we've covered that one. I feel like we've got it, and we can pair this with an a card that sold in the Golden Elite as well.

But let we gotta talk about Wendy, dude. So I, oh, man, I was busy working and doing this sort of thing, and I hadn't touched my phone in forever and pulled up Instagram, did the check, saw the shams report, and I was like, holy cow.

This is a big deal. Then I, like, got up, and I was like, alright. Time to just, like, smash through the stories. Like, what are people saying? Which is probably not the right thing to do. But, dude okay.

So you have this, like, generational type player who's been in his first two seasons, it's it's really hard to say, like, Victor Wymanyama couldn't I mean, he's he was he was gonna be defensive player of the year this year.

Like Mhmm. The Spurs, especially with the Fox pickup, like, they're probably gonna be in the play in situation.

Mhmm. He's just been a phenomenal player. He's captured kind of the attention of so many people who follow basketball, but then also so much of the hobby.

And so the my immediate reaction instantly was like, I hope this isn't severe. I hope he's back next year. And, because, like, him being healthy is really good for the hobby.

So then I do the story thing, and I start looking at people's story posts. And, dude, I I mean, turned off by the hobby, like, you wanna have, like, a a I'm mostly very excited, wanna, like, get in, like, explore, have conversations.

But I'm not sure I've been ever more turned off in the hobby than, like, watching the immediate commentary after the fact.

And the the the thing that turned me off the most was from individuals who decided that it was a good time to say, You know what?

This is why I only collect Hall of Fame players or I only collect vintage. It's for stuff like this, and there was no sympathy, no compassion.

It was this news was more was used more by other circles of the hobby to take a dump on anybody who came in and got excited about collecting cards or was trying to make money from the likeness of someone like Victor Wibanyama.

And to me, that was like, dude, tell tell me your hobby needs to grow up a little bit more than like that.

It's like my perspective is always, even if you don't collect him or you don't collect the category or whatever, like, our hobby does a lot better when the Victor Wemyon Yamas are out there and Victor Wemyon Yamas are star potential.

Sky's the limit.

Like, it's going to be a magnet to attract so many more people in which ultimately you're too impatient to realize this, but ultimately, that'll mean good things for the whatever player you collect that's not actively playing that you're so smart to collect because we like to collect active players like Victor Wimpanyama.

So that like, that I was so passionate about. I did an entire episode in the Patreon group that I'm not gonna, like, relive, but I was like, I gotta just go.

And I just drop it up. So it'd be like the raw reaction? Yeah. Raw reaction. So that's me. That's how I feel. What what is your reaction? Yeah. Dude, I think it's like, where are you coming from?

Like, I think it's okay to advise people or offer your opinion if if the if the situation presents itself and you and you genuinely are doing it because you think it could help that person.

That is not this. This is I'm coming I'm attacking you, to prove to myself that I was right and to pat myself on the back. Yeah. You're coming from a place of hate. Right? Yeah. You can you can say the same things from a place of love.

It's just when you say it matters. Like, this was the worst time to say that stuff where it like, you couldn't you couldn't come from a place of love saying, this is why I didn't buy Victor Wignan.

If you said if you said it differently at a different time, then, like, you could it could be helpful. Right? And it can move the hobby forward. But when you when you say that a time like this, it just holds the hobby back. Right?

People like you said, people that are newer to the hobby, they're still trying to figure out what the hobby experience is are gonna see that and be like, this is how they treat each other when one of the people that they're friends with, loses a bunch of money or, you know, is at risk or whatever.

Like, I don't wanna I don't wanna be a part of this. You know?

So it's it's along the same lines as, like it's it's why I tend to stick up for the flippers when a lot of people don't because it's like, we gotta we gotta love each other as much as we can to move this thing forward, guys, because other people are watching how we interact with each other.

That's that's the whole point of of both of those arguments. But, yeah, I I saw that, and it it wasn't didn't leave a good taste in my mouth either. But that sale was was a crazy sale, man.

Let's talk about the sale. Yeah. We're gonna talk about the sale. One final point here. You said I'll stick up for the flippers. And is someone who is trying to buy a card to resell for more money. Is that worse?

Or is is it worse when a generational player misses a season and so many people have put money into the player and their your commentary is to to to point your finger and basically make fun of everyone and tell everyone how smart you are to me.

I'm taking the flipper every time.

Thank you. Thank you. I don't even need to give my opinion on that. I want I wanted people to hear your stance, and I want people to reflect on that because I think the the question kinda answers itself.

Alright. So but, you know, the guy got hurt out for the year, but that doesn't preclude him having the highest selling card he's ever had, which is his his Nebula out of Prism, sold on Golden Elite for $860,100.

Goodness gracious. So what was your reaction to this in light of him missing the rest of the season? Yeah. So it wasn't even the number that was crazy to me.

It was the fact that the bidding, it went up, like, $300,000 after the injury news. Like, I mean, a lot of this bidding happened, like, in extended in and on Saturday night because I was bidding on a lot of stuff for clients too.

And I'm like, this card is still going. Like, it the Kobe ended, like, almost right away, and then this one was still going.

I was like, man. So that's what surprised me the most is people had this injury information and still went still bid it from, like, 500 k 550 k to 860 k. So that's what that's what really shocked me the most.

Yeah. I, it it it gave me confidence that and I know there's there's still news, trickling out about the injury and everything else. And it sounds like, oh, he's gonna be back, and they got caught it early and this sort of thing.

But, like, it gave me confidence in the fact that the the hobby is like, there is a contingent of the hobby that's very forward thinking, and they're not caught up in the moment but looking forward.

And if you you looked at the situation like this is a setback for Wimby, but he he's shown me enough now that I'm willing to pay this much for one of his cards. To me, I think that's that's cool.

Like, in this path of destruction that commentary led, like, there was a bright spot at the end of it, and that would it was this sale. Yep. A %, man. The biggest the the people that, you know, make the biggest, like, profits on cards.

Right? Or or or sell these cards for, like, huge all time highs. They're they're usually the ones that are taking the biggest risk when they buy the card.

You know? Like, it doesn't always work out, but, like, you know, it takes a it takes a big risk on the front end to potentially make a big return on the back end.

So, hopefully, that's what happens for this buyer. I hope they don't you know, I hope it's not worse news and they lose a bunch of money.

I don't want that to happen. But if all is good and Lemby has this career we think he can have, there's I think there's still plenty of room left on the table for this card.

And, you know, it might be ten, fifteen years before that comes to fruition, but, it's a card it's it's one of the, like, what, top three cards that exist for him or two?

Is it this in the in the black prism? Like, what what would the what would be ahead of those two? You know? I I would put this at I would put this at number two behind the black.

Yeah. So it's one of the top two to three cards that you would want of Wendy for the long haul. So if everything works out, this person's gonna be sitting in a great position.

You know what? I see this, and I'd I it's so hard because we talk so much about cards and their prices and what they sold for and when they sold for. And the the example I keep going back to, and I think was 35 k.

Doesn't it make that Luca, Nebula twenty eighteen at 35 k a pretty beautiful sale? Yeah. We're gonna talk about another Luca that'll make that 35 k Nebula sale, but real sweet right now.

By the way, I got a we were chatting about this, but but, my wife and I got a chance to get away. We we were at in Chicago for a night. Great hotel, by the way. Staying, right outside Wrigley, the Zachary.

If all all you Chicago peeps, like, I was very impressed with that hotel. So if if you're looking for a visit in Chicago, literally, like, our our hotel room, the front of Wrigley, like, you look at us right across the street.

We spent a night in Chicago. It was great. And I, literally, I you know, I'm in a hotel bed. I'm like we just had some sushi. Shout out Sushi Mira.

Incredible. We're I was got in bed, and it's like, it's so early. It's like, I'm gonna fall asleep here. But I had the Lakers Nuggets game on. I was like, I'm gonna watch as much of this I can before falling asleep.

And, dude, it was like watching Luca, like, it was like, you know, he had had, like, trying to get in the group, but, dude, he was unreal. And I was like, okay. Like, everyone's everyone's just like, be patient a little bit.

Like, this is this is what you're gonna get with Luka, and and I didn't obviously woke up. And the first thing I did when I woke woke I checked the box score and the score, and, obviously, the Lakers prevailed.

But I don't know, man. He's so Luke is so good. And so, like, I I watched that game against the Nuggets who are also very good, and, I feel feel like you should rest easy if you have money in Luca cards.

For sure, dude. And, like, I always come back to the Heat. Remember when LeBron and Bosh went to the Heat, and they they started out the season like nine and eight?

They were gonna win six straight championships. Like, it took it takes teams a while to adjust to a completely new roster, so Luke is gonna be just fine.

Okay. So you get some we're talking goal you had some cards. Let's just, like, hit hit some of these cards that sold through Wharf.

Okay. We've talked about this one. Emmitt Smith, PMG Green, PSA five, 40 eight k on this bad boy. What was your reaction? I was mad it didn't do 49 because then it would have been the highest selling Emmett card ever.

Because I think the PSA eight five did, like, $48. 02 or was it 49? So it was like I was I was very happy with the sale. The seller was very happy with the sale.

It's a very strong number. I knew it had potential to do a big number because it hadn't seen one for a while. PMG on the football side has kinda gained more steam over the last six to twelve months.

So I thought it would do a strong number. So we were happy all the way around. But the second highest Emmitt card sale of all time, the highest was this PSA eight five that did, like, $49.

49 2 or something like that. So what what is your this is so hard. This is gonna be an impossible question to answer, but I'm gonna give it to you anyways because that's what we do on here.

We we we spec we speculate. So the this sale of this Emmett card, do you think with where we're at and it's cards can go down. Right? But it it feels like the the nineties rare and scarce market on football is trending up.

Do you think, like, this position for this copy, this do you think it's, like, pretty solidified that, like, 48 k for an Emmett PMG Green is the floor, and from this point forward, most like, everything will be higher?

I know things can change, but what's your outlook on nineties football, rare and scarce, with a sale like this?

Yeah. I think it I think it's established a floor, especially because it's the lowest grade copy with PSA. Like, the any any other copies that you would see hit the open market will be higher graded copies.

Now maybe a six say a PSA six at auction next week, it might not do this number because it's just too close together and it's not a big enough difference of a grade.

But throw a PSA eight or the one PSA eight five at auction now, and it's gonna do more than 50 k. So, even with this close together.

But, ideally, people would not sell these things publicly for for a while. But, yeah, I think that's where we are. And I think it's, you know, it it always starts with basketball, and then it hits football, like, however long later.

It just that's that's the progression of this, and it always kinda starts with the credentials now and future rare parallels from '97 and the PMG greens. Like, it always and the rubies.

The rubies will be there too, but there's 50 of those for each player. And there's, you know, the rookies from '98 are 35. But those those still don't sell frequently for the big names for being 50 copies.

Surprisingly, they rarely sell. But the fact that there's 50 copies, like, it could take those longer to kinda get established into that that higher floor threshold.

But the rare futures and nows from 97 credentials and the, PMG Greens are rare enough, that when they sell, they're gonna sell for a high number and probably a new high, and it's probably establishing a new floor for for future sales.

Another one here. This Kobe o six zero seven limited logos, sick patch, sold for 35,400. Mhmm. Highest sale ever for any copy of that card. Is it really? It is. Yeah.

So, this was a fun one because I honestly didn't know until we got this card in and I started looking at just all of Kobe's limited logos and and kinda how frequently they were selling in different years and all that kind of stuff.

He wasn't even in the o five limited logo set. So he didn't have an o five. So he has 50 less.

There was those were serial number to 50. He has 50 less limited logos across all the years compared to Jordan and LeBron, which I think I guarantee Kobe guys know that. So I I think that probably played into this sale a little bit.

And one of these hadn't sold for a while. We saw like, the last two sales were, like, BGS authentic or authentic altered copies that is sold. We haven't seen hadn't seen a numerical graded copy for for a while.

So, and Kobe's market's hot right now, man. I I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more steam, like, on social media. Because, like, when Jordan's market was popping, it's all we heard.

What's what's the reason for it? Do you do you have any yeah. I think it's it's it's It's how it goes? It's how it goes, man. It starts with MJ, then it goes to LeBron and Kobe.

They they just kinda, like, plug the you know, re refilled what the normal gap is. Symbiotic relationship between them all. Exactly right. But, Kobe's definitely been having his moment the last several months.

Like, it seems like every nineties Kobe card or, like, patch auto card we get a Kobe, it seems like sets a new high, or at least, like, highest in the last couple years type of thing.

This is, gonna sound weird to think about it, but as I'm I think about the last time, you know, Kobe's cards just skyrocketed.

Obviously, it was, unfortunately, after his passing. But what was interesting about that time frame was not only was it after his passing, but just the the era of cards we're in, just that bubble period we're in.

And it is I guess my question to you is based on how aggressive a manufacturer like Topps has gone with promotion of the the hobby sports cards through their channels.

Like, dude, I got I mean, it's like you you just pull up your phone, and it's like every day there's new celebrities, within a hobby shop doing rip night and just bringing promoting the hobby, which is great.

Like, expand, get more visibility, bring in more people.

Like, it it seems like we're maybe not at the level of where the pandemic was when everybody who had a microphone and a camera were trying to, like, bring people into the hobby, and it was successful because there was a lot of new eyeballs.

Like, are we get do you think we're getting that now? And I don't think it's fair to say that, like, the new people who are entering now are the ones bidding on o six zero seven exquisite collection Kobe stuff.

But, I don't know. Like, do you think, like, this new, new surge of collectors or boomerang collectors back in the hobby can be a reason why we're seeing cards like Kobe Bryant's, continue to go up during this period of time?

Yeah. A %. That's that's another reason why I support the flippers is because I see every flipper as a potential new collector down the road.

And I think the ideally, like, even collectors probably feel this way. Like, flippers would turn into collectors. They would like what they're doing so much.

They would end up liking the cards for the cards. And as they learn more, they're gonna they're gonna gravitate eventually towards the MJs, the LeBrons, the Kobys, the Bradys, the Mantles, the vintage.

You know, they're going to once they start to understand the the long term market, right, if that's what brings them in is the market, they're gonna they're gonna find their way to the goats.

So it's like, it just takes one more new big buyer in a market to to lift it up. So that could be what's happening here. I also think there's something too.

Like, when we go through these waves of, like, like, prisms the thing now. Right? In in in the bubble, it was like a new thing in two months or month. I think, like, while that's happening, we're always looking for the zag.

Right? A lot of people zag is just I'm just gonna go back to the goats until I figure out the next zig. Right? Like, I think that just happens. It's like, oh, this it's been prism for six months to a year now.

It's been black finites since and then top scrum super frackers, gold gold prisms out of 10. And people are the people that are like, I'm done with that. I want the I want, like, something different.

What I wanna figure out what the next thing is. Like but I don't wanna stop buying cards, so I'm gonna start I'm gonna get some Kobes and LeBrons and MJs while I figure out my next move type of thing. I love it.

I love this type of theorizing. We don't have the answers, but it's fun to spec it's fun to speculate. We'll talk about Michael Jordan probably quite a bit in this episode, but 9899 SP authentic sign of the times gold BGS9Auto10 30 2 7.

Dude, this card is like this is the I love this card because I'm not used to seeing it, and I just love the design elements.

And Mhmm. I'm a big fan of the SP and upper deck era of just the autograph on the side there. It's just like I don't know.

To me, that hits, and this is a clean MJ autograph. So what do you gotta say about this sale? Yeah. That was a big sale. There was another BGS nine that sold on all more like, the most recent sale that did, like, 20 or 25.

May it might have been '27 even. '25 to '27, I think. But the auto kinda went off of the white onto the color part of the card a little bit.

And you'll see that if you go back and look at the autos on each of these, like, the ones that are like this where it's all on the white part and it's nice bold blue always catch a premium.

So I just love that about MJ Auto guys and, like, the big auto collectors, like, they're the detail matters so much to them, and they will pay for it.

So I think that's part of what drove this price is just the the location as crazy as it might sound, the location of auto on this car. It's nice nicely centered, as far as, like, in the, top to bottom middle of that white part.

You know, it's it's maybe more towards the left than the right if you go left to right, but, it doesn't bleed or fade into the actual color parts where you can't see parts of the auto.

So Okay. So we've got, the LeBron limited logos for '36. This is the o seven, BGS nine.

The patches on these are the Kobe this one, like, these are solid patches, great patch windows. What about this one? Yeah. That was a big sale too. I think, I did a post with all these on how they performed.

This is the highest highest sale second highest sale ever of this card, I think is what it was, or maybe second highest b g s nine sale ever, something like that. But, again, it was recently one of the highest sales of this card again.

So it's just, people are definitely flocking too exquisite again. It's been happening for several months now, but we're starting to notice it more and more in the sales.

So this wasn't the the highest Randy Moss cards, on record for very long. It wasn't even the highest Randy Moss card sale in that auction, which is I I didn't even think of that other card.

Neither did I, and it just It just that. So We're referencing the Ultra Yeah. Masterpiece one of one. The The series one. The college one is a is that the a or the b? I I was Series one.

Series one. Yeah. So it was the first one. Yeah. The first one that came out. Honestly, I just thought the college uniform would hold that one back, but it's a one zero one that hasn't sold forever. So or maybe maybe ever.

So I I get it. But this the Rainy Musk twenty four karat gold PSA eight sold for what was it? $29. 02? Yeah. $28. 08. 20 8 8. So it was a great number. It was the highest 24 karat gold public sale for his of all time.

PSA seven did, like, 19 something, you know, a couple years ago. But I thought it was a great buy. I think this card has a lot of potential. I think it's his second best nine one zero one rookie card.

I would put his credentials future ahead of it. It's out of six, I believe. So it's one of the best Randy Mon literally one of the best Randy Moss cards you can get your hands on.

So, but I do think we saw one or two of these sell privately in the last several months, and I think that's what held back this public sale.

So talk about that dynamic a little bit. Yeah. What why do you why do you say that? What does that mean? Well, you lose buyers.

Right? So, like, you know, I would imagine the first copy that sold privately went for more than this would be my guess. I'm not sure what it sold for. That would be my guess because you kinda have control of the market at that point.

If you bring that copy of for sale and there's no other copies available and there hasn't been one available for years, you're gonna be able to get squeeze more out of it, especially privately.

But, you know and then that buyer's theoretically gone unless they wanna buy a duplicate copy, and just control the market that way.

I don't know. But some people do that. But, I I think a second copy sold privately as well. So then again, you're just losing another buyer.

So, like and you're talking about if that was in the last six months, this would be the third copy that sold in the last six months, first first publicly, but we went years without a copy selling.

So when you think of it that way, if this is the third copy to sell in six months and it still did $30,000, it's actually really impressive. But if those private sales didn't happen, this card probably would have done $50,000 or more.

Awesome card. Awesome sale price nonetheless. We we're we're we're we'll skip by a couple others that we had and maybe move over to the, we already talked about this.

Wanna talk about the this this Luca here, which is a card that we've covered a lot on auction talk, but the 2018 Luca Doncic gold Prism PSA 10 sold for $341,600 on golden.

My re my reaction was, like, I didn't, like, even check card ladder.

I try I try to, like, blackout those early sales of these cards, but I was just like, that seems like a very strong and on point sale for where we're at right now with Luca.

Yeah. My prediction was $3. 75 on you know, when we did that a couple episodes ago. So Was it? It was $3. 75. 3 70 5. Yeah. So I went I was even higher than, he did.

And I still think this is a strong number. I agree with you. Like, where we are, where the market is, like, we're further into Lucas' career, and, like, he doesn't have the championship or an MVP.

So, like, that that matters. Like, that that will depreciate the value a little bit. And his market has come down overall, you know, from four years ago, three years ago.

So why wouldn't this card come down a little bit too relative to the last sales? But, again, still an extremely strong sale, all things considered. So I think it's I think this is not this guy's crazy.

This there's no way this could happen. We can live in a world where Luka Doncic is an NBA champion this year. Like, that is completely within reason to think about. Right? Yeah. I mean, it is like the West.

The West feels pretty wide open. It's like it's Oklahoma's beating up. Who's beat outside of the nuggets, which we just saw the Lakers pound the nuggets, but seven game series, it's different outside of the nuggets.

Who's I know you got OKC, but LeBron and Luka in the seven game playoff series, who who you taking over them? I I I that's what I'm saying, man. Like, the they match up well with everybody. That that's a that's a contender in the West.

Right? I think the Nuggets are actually are actually their worst matchup. Yeah. As a Nuggets fan, like, coach Malone is the type that, like, needs time to adjust, and that was a whole new lineup.

They've never played that Lakers lineup before. So, like, not a surprise they got blown out. That's kinda like coach Malone's thing. It happens, like, all the time.

They always lose. Like, they'll go to the Pistons, and Pistons will sit all their starters, and the Nuggets will lose by 15 because it's like they didn't know who they were playing against. You know? Like, that's just classic Nuggets.

So, I think the Nuggets match up the best with them, but, like, they can run with OKC. They can run with, Houston. Like, Houston's so young. They're gonna they're gonna Houston's gonna do a lot of stupid things in the playoffs.

They they have to get through their, like, levels of experience in the playoffs before they're serious contender. Memphis is like Memphis all the time. Like, they've been the same team for, like, nine years.

It feels like like, who I don't I don't know who it is. That that there's just like this team is better than them for sure. So I feel like eight teams in the West could go to the finals, and it wouldn't surprise me.

So so we've got, of course, after that loss, we've got, off of the back to back, we've got Denver in in town tonight between the Pacers, which will be a good game.

This will be live that already, have gone live, but it's I'm excited to see what happens there.

The Pacers are, I think the Thunder in 2025 are eighteen and five as we record this, and the Pacers are sixteen and five, which is the second highest. So we'll see what they can do against, Jokic. They never really play him well.

I think most teams don't, so we'll see how that shakes out. You better watch out, man. MPJ is coming back to his hometown, so you better watch it. He grew up in, Fisher, Fishers. That's right. I always forget that.

I mean, until he was, like, fifth grade or something, then he moved to Columbia. But yeah. So, he's gonna go for 40, and they're gonna win. Okay. Let's okay. Let's talk about this one. The I didn't look at this sale.

What do you sell? 96 k. Let's go. Alright. So let's go. So this is the O 3 FLIR EX Lebron essential credentials now, out of one zero two PSA 10. Nick, you, broke the Internet, when we you sold the first one. So this is a pop five.

What what did the first one go for that you sold? A hundred and 50 k. Okay. A hundred and 50 k. So, obviously, when you see a sale like this, another one's gonna come out. But, like Right. Because this one was, $54,000 less, like Mhmm.

Maybe talk about why this one is $54,000 less than the other one. I think it is as simple as it's sold too close to the last copy. The last copy, there was, like, five years in between sales.

And the last the previous sale before that was pre COVID, and it was, like, 32,000 or 35,000. So if you take out the hundred and $50,000 sale, you still jumped from 35 to 96 or whatever this one is.

No. Still a big jump. Right? Still a huge jump and, like, something to be proud of. But the first public sale is gonna, you know, gonna reap the most reward from the the lack of public sales.

Right? Because you don't have that with this card. You could say this copy just sold, you know, six, four months ago, whatever it was when we sold that.

So you take our sale out of it. This is still actually a very impressive sale. So but would it have done more if our copy didn't sell three months ago or four months ago?

Yes. I think it would've. Still impressive sale nonetheless. Last one I wanna cover in this section is this, the 2014 Tom Brady patch auto Ruby at a 15 PSA 10 sold for $69,000. A lot you got a four color patch.

You've got, you know, GameWarn, the flawless 2014 set is, you know, becoming a very important set. Yep. I know a lot of Brady collectors measure kind of the Brady market through these sorts of sales on the flawless card.

What do you think about this sale, at this moment in time? It was a big sale for where we've been with this market, but I'm a big believer in this set. And I think it has so much potential long term.

Like, this is the go to Brady Gamehorn patch auto card for most people. I don't even think it I mean, I'm the Brady collectors out there. You all listen. I always hear it when we talk about Brady cards.

Appreciate you listening. The the I say I validate your point by saying when a flawless card shows up on the auction block, there is always commentary and interest from the Brady community watching that.

So I I think that is right. Like, there are plenty of other Brady Patch autos over the years, but this seems like the the community has really circled in and zeroed in on this one as being the one that we're gonna follow and track.

For sure. A %. Like, it's it seems, undeniable.

And there's definitely other high quality Brady Patch auto cars even from the Panini era. Like, 02/2015, Immaculate has some nice game worn patch autos. We saw one, I think, in the premier auction, if I'm not mistaken.

They're horizontal, but they're still sweet. But I think what's crazy is people were still going off of the most recent comps of these cards, which an Emerald out of five just sold a month or two ago.

But before that, it had been a year or two, but we saw, like, a stretch of, like, a bunch of them selling publicly, and it just each sold for less and less and less.

But if you go before that stretch, these were 6 figure cards all day. So I think people were working off the last comps.

They they still went aggressive off those last comps, but they held back from, like, the all time highs because this is I I just feel like the prices on these have been comp driven, not like, this is a card I'm gonna hold for twenty five years, and I know it's eventually gonna be worth this.

It's like, no. The last comp was 40, so I can't pay more than 65 or what you know you know, whatever it is. But where I'm getting with this is I just I think we're reestablishing a new floor for these.

Like, we might see another one to three of these sell over the next several months, and then they're gonna dry up again. And then in three years, they're gonna sell for 6 figures. It's gonna be that type of market, I feel like.

What I love about this, set and series, you've got the the base 25, ruby 15, emerald or gold 10, root, emerald five, and then the one of one. But then within that, you've got the variance on the auto detail.

You've got the variance on the patch quality. Is you got the variance on the what the card is graded for, if it's not graded. And to me, there's it's very it's you really have to get down in the weeds, and it's not straightforward.

And you have to really analyze each of these sales on its own because there are different factors within that card that made that card in at the price that it ended at.

And I think that's interesting and fascinating about this, and it's very unique to an important card. I just can't remember too many cards where that whole catalog within the product really matters and varies sale by sale.

That's so true. And even the the different parallels, the color foil, like, Ruby is out of 15, but a lot of times, it's less it sells for less than the silver out of 20 or 25.

20 five. Because a lot of like, people just like the look of the hollow or the silver more. But on the for Brady, the ruby kinda flows nicely with his jersey colors.

So it's like again, it's player to player there. Like, the Jerry Rice rubies look really nice with the forty niners uniforms. And then one more thing to point out is there's no shield.

There's no shield patches in any of these. So I think it makes these, you know, higher numbered parallels, you know, quote, unquote higher numbered parallels hold value better because they're not competing with, like, the shield.

Like, people still want the one on one platinum the most.

Don't get me wrong. It's gonna sell for a huge premium. But if it was a shield, it would sell for three x what the one one platinum sells for. So another interesting nuance with these.

I also have to shout out to my youngest daughter. Her name is Ruby. So anytime one of these sells, I'm always, get a little sentimental. I'm like, maybe I should open up a a Ruby PC for her, and then I'm like, I can't.

Just start just start with this card, man. I don't know. Start for your daughter that you love so much. Here's Maybe one maybe one day we'll sell it and be like, hey.

Here's your college. Have fun. Yeah. Here's your first semester of college. Yeah. Just a little. Jeez. Oh, oh, brother. Okay. So we just covered a lot of cards that sold. Not not even we can't even go through it all.

There's been there's so many cards that have sold this past week. It's been a big week in the hobby, but, how are you feeling after this week? Like, what is your takeaway as the dust settles on this past week of high end auctions?

It was a big week, man. Like, that that Saturday felt like man, we haven't had one of these in the it felt like we hadn't had one of those nights for a long time where it's just, like, so many huge cards.

And then two auctions, like Heritage had a big auction too.

We bid on some cards there. We didn't I don't think we won any, but, they had some big cards there too. So it was cool to see. This was one of the bigger, like, just value wise auction nights we've had in a while, so it was fun.

Awesome. Okay. We're gonna do our, which I think the listeners are are starting to really, enjoy this, little bit we got going on here where we just ask kind of a crazy question, for the week.

But, my my crazy question, is, Nick, I can't wait for you to just, like, rip one out of the off the cuff because I could see you scrambling. Because I didn't I did not read this question before.

I'm I'm I'm gonna go first. So I'll give you some time. I'll give you some time. Good. I don't I almost, yeah. You you go first. I'll at least read the question. You you operate well under pressure.

I picked that up from, 53 episodes of auction talk. Okay. The question is, you can pick one Michael Jordan card that went off the board this week to be added to your collection, but it must stay in your collection for the next decade.

What card are you picking and why? And I'm gonna just hit this out of the gates. I went back this morning, and I looked at kind of all the Jordans that sold over the past week.

And I had a card in mind, and it even after the that happened, the card still remained the same for me, and that is the ninety seven ninety eight Skybox Metal Universe championship precious metal gym, Michael Jordan, out of 50, BGS seven that sold on Golden.

This thing sold for a hundred and 98,860. There's been six public or it's the sixth highest public sale of any grade of this card of all time.

But if I'm thinking about this card and and why I this card this has been this is the Jordan card to me that always stands out as, like, god.

This this card will get you into collecting Jordan at some way, shape, or form. To me, it's a perfect card. I have always appreciated and admired it.

You've got the the scope, aesthetic. Anyone who has held one of these in hand can definitely appreciate just the aesthetic of it. It just pops off. Jordan is literally coming off the card and getting ready to slam it home.

You can see Utah Jazz. There's lineage there with the finals. But then you look at the back, and I would just mention, I was in Chicago this past weekend. I was riding two up Lakeshore, down Lakeshore to get home.

And you can't be anytime you say it every time you go into Chicago. And my wife and I were sitting there, and it's like, I can't believe this is three hours away from us. And you look at the landscape, and you see all the buildings.

And, literally, Chicago as a city has everything to offer. It would be so much fun to live there, and I could I could I could live in that city and really enjoy it as someone who enjoys living in the city.

But, like, you've the the card itself just highlights the city of Chicago perfectly in that landscape, and it just it's so symbolic. Like, Jordan is in the sky with the rest of the Chicago, skyline.

And it to me, if there's a perfect basketball card, this to me is a perfect basketball card, and it always has been. So if I had all the money in the world and I had all the means in the world, this card would be in my collection.

It would I would be proud to store it away for the next ten years because to me, there is no chance and I'll put my hobby reputation on the line here. Oh, man. Maybe it will go down in a little bit, whatever.

But in ten years, there's no way this card sells for under a hundred and 98 k, and that's because I have so much confidence in just the way this card looks, it how many copies there are, and the fact that I just have confidence in this this space.

So that is my pick, Nick. Man, ditto. That's it. That's the kind of story. No, dude. The the I mean, everything you said is so true about that card.

Like, the the visual like, just the city in the background and him, like like, flying through the air in his MJ. Like, it just it's the it embodies the entire, like, vibe of It's perfect.

The dynasty of the bulls in the nineties coming from somebody that was watched literally every single bulls game during the the the the three piece both three piece.

Like, when Jordan was on the bulls and I was old enough to remember, I watched every single bulls game. So, it it it does capture all of that, which is amazing.

And to to pick a little bit different card, I would go with the the 97 jambalaya PSA 10 sold for a hundred and $23,000 2 hundred and 20 or a hundred and 23, 2 hundred and 20. I can never say that right. A hundred and $23,220.

That shows how much I personally operate in the six figures. I can't even say it. Just a sweet card. Like, again, it comes back to, like, you know, jambalaya. Like, when you thought of nineties and and jam, like, you thought of Jordan.

Right? Like, he was he was the dude. The design sticks out because of its die cut, like, oval design. Right? Like, you see this and you just know, like, what card it is.

Like, it's it's one of those cars that just you you you just know exactly what card it is as soon as you see the design. The jambalaya, like, design is also kind of a tribute to, like, the actual jambalaya.

Right? Like, it's it's kinda got that that New Orleans southern vibe in into the design, which I think is cool that they were able to capture that. And then it's a parallel that is unique to basketball.

Right? There's no, baseball jambalaya or equivalent. There's no football jambalaya. There's this there's the e x two, 2,000 men, which is kinda looks like it, but it's not parallel. Right? So it's unique in that regard.

And then it doesn't sell off, and it's a pop 17. But, I mean, according to card ladder, the last PSA ten sale was in August of twenty twenty. So Dang. It was that long ago. That long What did it sell for then? $51. 06. Geez.

Less than half of this sale. So, and going back to, I see eight public sales on card ladder going back to 02/2012. So in the last thirteen years, we've seen eight copies sell. So 17, like, I'd I'd I'd love for it to be less than 10.

I feel more good about that PSA ten pop report if it was 10 or lower. But But it's but it's Jordan. Right? There's exceptions. That's exactly right. Like, a Jordan pop 17 is the same as, like, a, anybody else pop, like, four.

So when it comes to, like, scarcity. So a a co a card I would love to have in my collection for the long haul, and, the the the the honorable mention would have been the 98 PMG.

I think I think it's a card that kind of flies under the radar because of the 97 PMGs, but could have the most upside over the next several years because of that.

Right? Like, people are gonna the the 90 sevens are just gonna continue to dry up and dry up, and then people will look towards that 98, and then those will dry up and go up in value. And it's still very aesthetically pleasing card.

Great image of Jordan. Again, like, dunking on somebody. So, but I but to be different, I went with Jambalaya. If, anyone out there just feels like they wanna just support more sports cards or stacking slabs, we'd love we love gifts.

So you could you can you can gift those copies of these cards if you want. Yeah. You could gift us copies of these cards, or maybe, like, reading lessons for me to be able to, understand how to pronounce 6 figure dollar, values.

But the cards first. Yeah. We prefer cards. Okay. Mailbag time. Let's go. Drake at Drake's PC. When I got into wrestling cards in 2020, I wanted all the 2014, '20 '15, and even 2020 tops chrome WWE cards I could get my hands on.

I still have many of them and have even added more over the last few years. Twenty twenty five Topps Chrome WWE recently released, but I find myself completely uninterested in it.

Do you think this is a case of something being too new, and I may find myself interested in three to five years from now, or is it something else?

People didn't want earlier's prism when it was released, but now people spend crazy on money crazy money on it. Ultimately, what causes us to chase something at release versus waiting for it and coming back to it?

Drake, I can relate with this. I will say I don't even have any safe searches set up for the new Chrome stuff. And to me, what's a the biggest challenge of it for me is once I've gone prism, it's it's hard to just then go to Chrome.

And I think a lot of it has to do with the parallel structure. A lot of it has to do with, the design and the look and the appearance of my own personal collecting collection.

So I would say, like, it's probably a good position to not go run at the new shiny thing and be able to restrain yourself or maybe not even be interested because a lot of the times, like, I feel like as for what I collect, I'm having to combat that and figure that out.

But I don't know, man.

I'd have a hard time thinking that you you'd be interested in three to five years if you're not interested now. But I also just think it shows that there's an evolution with wrestling cards because before this, we didn't have options.

And now that now that we have options, I think you are choosing where you wanna spend your money, and that's on the older stuff and the the the Prism stuff that's come out after the fact.

So, it's why you know, you see some of these sales and this, and it's wild what people are spending.

And I then look at the Prism stuff, and it's like, man, I can't believe people are ignoring this stuff right now, but that's how the hobby goes.

It just anything you wanna react to in terms of, like, new products, avoiding it, that sort of thing?

Well, so this case study is extremely interesting to me. So, Panini's license is done with WWE, and now Topps has it again. Topps had it. Then, 2022, Panini had it.

They had three years of prism along with other products, and now it's back to Topps. So this is the Fanatics TOPS version? This is the Fanatics TOPS. Correct. Okay. Are the parallels all the same and same number?

Like, are the goals out of 50? The the goals are out of 50, and there's a lot of parallels like there are in all TOPS products. And my biggest beef, and I think I mentioned on this, is that there's variations.

Too many variations. Dude, so this is a great case study because this this is probably a dose of what we're gonna see when basketball and football start with TOPS.

Because that was that was my big question mark is, did Fanatics see, like, how people are going crazy for the gold out of 10 prism and and make a bold change with Topps gold refractor and make it more rare than 50?

And it looks like they did not for the wrestling. It doesn't mean they won't for the others, but it's probably a strong indicator that they won't, and they will keep the consistency of the gold out of 50.

And then it goes back to what you said. Like, now that you've had this taste of the gold prism out of 10, like, 50 just seems like so many No.

Thanks. Yeah. It's like and then you look at the sale prices, you're like, this the math isn't math in here. Right? So I do get that. But this is also unique in the sense that, like, there was only fourteen, fifteen, and 20 tops Chrome.

It's not like you had 14 through 20. It's not like this is like a ninth year TOPS Chrome. It's like, no. There was only three before, and then this is the fourth. And it's also the first, like, year of the reboot, if that'll matter.

And he's still not interested. So that's fascinating to me. Like, I'm I'm watching this and being like, this is great information for him instead of, like, basketball and football top stuff.

100%. And here's this is I love it when the questions just line up like this. Pigskin pancake sports cards ask a question.

Will Topps chrome change their gold barrel from 50 to 10 at some point? This is what you get when Nick doesn't read any of the questions on the document. But how how how perfect is that? That's what we were just talking about.

I don't think so. And I I don't think so. Like Yeah. It's always tops changes stuff, but, like, I don't know. If the gold suddenly turns to 10, it would I feel like it would feel like they were trying I don't know.

Maybe if the sales aren't great, like, after a few cycles, potentially, but I don't see it happening for the initial releases. Even even at a 25. Because, like, on the basketball side, they had a couple years there.

Like, the o nine was at a 25. I wanna see there was one other year that was at 25 maybe. So, like, I agree with you. I don't think they could just go chalk and be like, oh, here's what Prism does.

We'll just do that. I think they have to keep it unique to their brand, but making it more rare, I think, could pay off. But, again, it comes back to the money making side of it.

Like, they're they're gonna approach it from a money making side on release, not on secondary market value and and interest. No doubt. Aaron Ira Sports Cards twenty one is someone who doesn't normally get involved in auctions.

I'm curious what's the best, strategic time to bid on an item. Does it make more sense to throw your max bid in from the starter or wait until the item is about to end to fire in your max bid?

Bidding strategy question. We talked about this sort of thing, but what? It's been a while since we talked about it.

Been a while. So what what do you how do you I I this is what I'll say. My personal experience. I was always a wait until the end, but auctions are getting later and later, and I'm getting older and older older.

And so I have the last, like, three cards I've won. I put in bids, like, maybe, like, five or six hours before the auction ends, and then I'll wake up in the middle of the night in three for three.

I've won them all. Yeah. So Okay. That's so that's probably the best way to answer this is with experience. So we bid on five cards last night in the, Fanatics weekly auction, put all the bids in at 5PM central time, won all of them.

Won all five. Saturday, we bid on, I think I only bid on one card in golden. Put the max bid in before extended. I mean, it was Saturday night. It was probably, like, 7PM central like, my time central time, and we won the auction.

It was a big card too. It was a 6 figure card. I would say the amount, but I would just say it wrong. So, the the ones we lost, we lost two on Heritage, and both of those we bid during extended.

So that's just Put your bids in early. That's just real data there, but, like, I'm I'm like you. Like, I'm I'm telling people that want stuff funded unless I it's rare, but, like, I'm not staying up for extended.

I and I tell people that, like, I'm gonna place my bids before extended. Like, if you're not okay with that, like, we can figure out something else for you to bid and and all that kind of stuff.

But, like, it's just we got too many responsibilities. So I think all things risk reward, like, quality of life considered, place your bids early.

I love it. We'll probably get some feedback on that one, but I can't wait. Just some personal experience. Last question, the mailbag, Adam, AJ m cars ninety four.

Going back to Brett's Angel Reese Prism Gold purchase, and Reese being overlooked. Could we see a similar scenario in a couple years when Juju Watkins isn't a rook is a rookie like Caitlin Clark?

She will be in a tier of her own. However, there will still be players drafted after her that are important for the m WNBA for the next several years. Could we see another trend of a couple players being overlooked?

And what's what's crazy about, Juju is it feels like she's been playing forever, but she's only she's only she's only she's only she's 19 years old. So she's not gonna be eligible to be drafted until 2027, which is is is crazy.

Hannah Hidalgo will be in that draft, which it's hard to say, like, she'd be overlooked, but she might be. You look at next year, and it's like Paige Beckers, but then you've got, like, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm naming all Notre Dame players.

Even though they just lost, they were on a streak. They lost to NC State. I saw all the clips already. But you've got Olivia Miles. So and, Sonia Citron. So, and then you've got Mauro at LSU.

So you've got, like, players, but the focus is gonna be on Paige. My whole feedback on this is, like, if you have confidence in the WNBA as a league, as a whole, there are so many good players, and the attention now is on Clark.

But, like, to me, that gives me a lot of confidence because I have I enjoy the product, and I think it's only going to continue to, accelerate. I think it's if you if you like a player, to me, WNBA seems cheap.

It seems really cheap. So I think this it'll it'd be interesting to see how this plays out by the time Juju's a rookie, if it'll be different, if the league will be more, maybe, more attention, more eyeballs, more collectors.

I don't know. But to me, I've always said, like, turn left when the market's going right.

Everyone's all over Caitlin Clark right now. So to me, that screams opportunity with a lot of other players because there's so many damn good players. Yep. Totally agree.

I I think it's the the the easier opportunities seem to be in the veterans, I think those are the ones that are actually the most overlooked because it's like all the hype is on the the Caitlin Clark draft class right now.

So, like, we just talked about last episode, a multi time MVP, WNBA champion. I think she won finals MVP as well. Had a third year gold prism sell for less than $200.

Mhmm. And that just doesn't it's unthinkable on in any other major sport. Not, you know, not saying WNBA is on the same tiers of NBA and and NFL and MLB, but, you're kinda buying the trending up of the sport as well.

So the the opportunities, in my opinion, are really in the veterans that have established resumes.

If you're new to the product, like WNBA specifically, and you're learning about the players, like, you can hit hit like, do your research.

A lot of these really good players within the league have been playing for a long time and have a lot of accolades.

It's not just, like, one or two players. Yeah. It's a lot across the league. And you go map and look at their how much their cards are going for, and it's like it's like it's almost laughable.

So it's like, these are the best players. Like, I agree. Like, maybe avoid the rookies and look at some of the vets stuff because to me, that's the biggest bang for your buck right now.

For sure. Alright. What a lot with lot has happened with the War of Sports Cards. We have covered a lot, but why don't you give us a rundown? Yeah. Another big auction we had we sold a 87 cards. They did $305,917.

I said that right. We had, so one one card I'll talk about that I've already posted this morning, this is Monday, is the Penny Hardaway, the 98 p m G b GS 9 5. First, I think it was the first public sale on card ladder.

Again, I don't know how far back card ladder went on this of of any copy of that card, and it happened to be a BGS 9 5, which, like, you never see on a P and G, it sold for $43,200, and it was, by far the highest public sale for a penny card ever.

That was a card that was, like, hoping to get 15 to 20, and I thought that was gonna be strong, and it and it blew that out of the water.

But the one of the cards that we actually talked about on this podcast last week that I wanted to highlight that that I thought was a strong sale was the 2012 Panini Crusade gold out of 10.

Mhmm. PSA 10 that we were both drooling over. It sold for $10,200, which is the highest sale for any card from that set ever.

So strong sale there. And just one of those cars, like, the more I looked at it and learned about it, the more I love it. Because it's just, like, a little bit off the the radar, which is my sweet spot. Right?

Like, I feel like you have to jump off the, like, normal path to find that card and appreciate it. So it got me pumped. It's the you know, I was I was considering it the reboot of Crusade, but it was the first crusade for basketball.

Oh, wow. Oh, really? There was no nineties crusades for basketball. So it was actually the introduction of crusade to basketball. But design wise, yeah, it was kind of a nod to the '98 football and baseball designs.

But just just a lot going for that card, so I was happy to see a strong sale there. That's awesome. Congrats. Really good, week for the worst sports cards, and there's always more cards.

So there is it's a cycle, which I was looking through these, and these are fun. There's a lot of fun ones. So let's talk about five cards that are ending with the worst sports cards, on fanatics, weekly fanatics collect weekly.

So this dude just won NFL MVP, and I don't think we've talked about him since. Right? He's been on the sheet. He just keeps getting pushed off.

Yeah. So, Josh Allen, we owe you one. So here it is. This is the 02/2018 select field level tie dye out of 25 Josh Allen rookie rookie card. It's a BGS nine five. I I mean, we've talked about early select ad nauseum here. Love the set.

Big fan of the tie dyes. There's always been, like, a crew of collectors that that just like, go for tie dye across all years, and I love that because it's, again, it's a little bit off the path of, like, gold one zero one.

It's like, boom. Here here's close, but a little off the path. It's still rare. There's only 25 copies. The field level is obviously the most desirable and, most valuable level always of the three. Didn't even look at comps on this.

I have no idea what these sell for, but just a just a card that I appreciate looking at and I think is a good option for somebody that's looking for something maybe a little more affordable that's still rare.

Yeah. I'm a I, I kinda I I'm very rigid.

I stick to my parallels, but I do like, if you look inside my collection, you you'll find a tie dye here and there, and they're just so interesting and unique that, I definitely think that they have a staying power whether it's in the Prism brand or the Select brand.

For sure. This one, speaks for itself.

It's February bad. 02/2010, Panini certified mirror black one zero one game you shield patch Thomas Brady. Long hair Tom. Long hair Tom. It's TSA authentic grade. I honestly I haven't I didn't look at this card.

I'd I haven't held it in hand. It went straight to the wall. So I'm not sure if there's, like, an obvious, condition issue there on why it's an authentic graded copy and not a a numerically graded copy.

But It doesn't matter. Exactly. It's a game used NFL shield, from Tom Brady. So I always think these are super cool. Like, the the mid like, it feels like, what, like, o '8 to, like, 02/2012, there was this era of, like, certified.

I think Leaf has them where there's, like, this design. You know? It's like a little bit of a variation each year in each, brand, but it's got that smaller patch right in the middle.

You'll see a lot of shields for different players, but you rarely see, you just don't see Brady Shield, game use shield one on one sell often across all years.

Awesome card. Brady's definitely getting ready to throw a touch. I feel like long hair Tom. It was just like He didn't mess up. Bomb down the middle every freaking play to Randy Moss or something.

That's right, man. He wasn't messing around. Or going from one goat to another. Yeah. So, this is the twenty twelve SP authentic marks of distinction out of 35 autograph, Tiger Woods BGS nine five. We also had the o nine.

I believe there's another year that we have. That's a PSA nine. It might even be a o three. It might be a earlier year. And those are out of 50. So there's two Tiger Woods, Marks of Distinction Autos in this auction from us.

But it's just like, I'm I still love golf cards. I we never talk about them, but, like, there's just such a limited supply. Like, they just don't have many releases every year.

There was years they didn't have any golf cards. Like, the licensing is so tricky because they'd have to, like they, like, strike deals with each individual player on to make their cards or not.

So a lot of big names aren't in the sets, but, like, when it comes down to, like, years down the road, like, Tiger Woods was arguably the most dominant athlete in his sport of of any sport.

I think Gretzky's probably at the top of that list. MJ's obviously up there, but, like, Tiger dominated. And I don't care if you were a sports fan, you knew what he was doing.

So I think there's always gonna be a market for Tiger, and he I just feel like his autos, especially when they're serial numbered, are just gonna be those type of cards that appreciate over time because they're not competing with just a ton of supply.

There's just not a lot of Tiger Woods cards out there for how great of a, athlete he was.

I don't know if it's the individual sport thing, but I always when I think of when I think of Tiger Woods in my mind, in the dominance, the only other individual that I can put even close to him is Michael Phelps.

Michael Phelps. I was just as you were saying that, I'm like, it's not Michael Phelps. That's a k one. That's a great In our lifetime, the dominance there by those two in their respective sports, are insane.

But we can move from we went from one goat to another goat, and we're gonna hit another goat. So Yes. I I teased him in that in that, talking up tiger, but this is the O 6 SP authentic sign of the times, Wayne Gretzky auto.

It's a BDS 10 with the 10 auto. So, obviously, the grade is unique, not an easy grade, but, it's a later year sign of the times.

I think his first was, like, '97. This might be his last. I don't think he had a o '7, but I don't know if they if they were done after o six.

But, again, like, it's just like the classic SP authentic design. I'm a big fan of the sign of the times insert set, because it's known, like, because of MJ, really.

Like, MJ dudes know it, so and, like, Kobe dudes know it. So it's it's a a insert set that you can hear the name of and know, like, oh, wait. The MJs and those are really valuable.

Why wouldn't the Gretzky or the Messier or whoever whoever your guys, Crosby's, whatever? So, a significant set, and then it's it's I mean, it's a perfect auto of of the goat, so why wouldn't you want it?

But I would imagine being a later year sign of the times, these are surprisingly affordable. So something I would keep an eye on for sure.

Always cool to see a Gretzky card that I'm not used to seeing. And the final card here This one this one is fun. I would normally I normally don't really, like, include cards like this, but I did for a reason.

So this is the 97 PMG red out of one fifty Marshall Faulk. But the reason I included it is because it's a PSA eight, pop one, none higher. Talked about this before.

This is the set for football collectors, for basketball collectors. Like, this is the set. And the pop one none hires are selling for huge premiums, especially on the basketball side and for the bigger names on the football side.

We saw the Barry Sanders. Now it was a PSA nine pop one none higher, Did $55,000 when his PSA seven was doing, like, 19.

So you're talking about a huge premium. And Marshall Faulk has had a lot of PMG red sell recently. Like, there's been a stretch where, like, five have sold in the last, like, six months, which is a lot.

So I think people like, he could be off the radar for some people. This is a chance for one of you that's like, I've been wanting to add a Falk PMG to the collection.

Like, I would I this is one I would be aggressive on because the set collectors are going to want this at some point when they're gonna wanna say, I want the highest PSA graded copy of everybody in the set that I can get.

And they're gonna go reds first because there's there's way more copies than the green. The green's almost impossible to collect a set. So from, like, a a speculation perspective, like, you're sitting on a good opportunity there.

And then it's Marshall Faulk, dude. Like like, he's a guy I've been trying to add into my collection, but now I'm, like, selling my collection.

Like, I just I I've been wanting to collect them, and I've tried so so often, that I'm like, man, if I can't touch this card, like, I want somebody to somebody that that we know, get this card, man.

You won't regret it. I love the just the I mean, the the this card is so so beautiful. Like, the the solid red background and just the bright white nature of the Colts uniforms and the blue pops, it's just that car is sick.

I just wish he was wearing a Rams uniform. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ugly Colts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Colts here. But, you know where to find those cards at the World Sports Cards.

Definitely hit Nick up with any of your consignment or funding needs. Nick Yes. This was fun, man. We, talked about a lot of cards, lot of time on the clock, but I think this is well worth it.

Got into cards, themes, and a bunch of other things trending right now in the hobby. That might have been the most bang for your buck efficient episode we've ever done. Hour and seventeen.

We're usually at a hour thirty, and I feel like we talked I feel like we jam packed more quality conversation than that one than we than we do in a lot of these. So I had the I had the producer in my ear saying, keep pushing it along.

Go. Yeah. The producer is also Brett. So, kudos, Brett. Awesome. Well, appreciate everyone out there for supporting and listening to Auction Talk. We will be back until next time. Talk to you soon. Thanks, everybody.