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I think you and I both is before we hit record, we're sharing just maybe not as exciting as we were expecting. But I think the fallout of that is some good conversation about sports cards, which is why we're here.

Yes. But what do you what do you what do you think now that football season is over? Do you have any reactions on the game? What are your thoughts? It's always a tough day when when NFL season is over.

It's, it's just one step closer to, like, that that dead season in the in the summer where where when the NBA ends and it's like, okay. It's just baseball now, guys. That's all we got. And w No disrespect, but we need more.

WNBA now. Yeah. No disrespect to baseball. It's just like we're the peak season is like when when NFL when the NBA starts because it's like you got NFL, you got NBA, you got, you're wrapping up or or maybe still in the, MLB postseason.

So it's like the mecca of of sports fan, time of year. So we're we're starting to exit that, so it was always sad. But the game, man, it was I was just waiting for that, like, moment.

Every time the the Eagles scored or the Chiefs did something stupid, I was like, okay. This is they're gonna hit this switch. The Chiefs are gonna flip the, we've been here before and done this before switch, and it just never happened.

So I gotta be honest. Coming out of halftime, I said to my wife, we kinda said to each other, if if the Chiefs don't score and then Eagles score, we're done.

And that's what happened. And, after that Eagles field goal to go up 27, we called it. We shut it off. We went to bed, and I'm not embarrassed to say that. So I don't have it.

I don't have a Super Bowl hangover. I was asleep at 08:45. So Smart man. How about you? Yeah. I've I was wanting a better game. Shout out to you Eagles fans, busting three peats every, chance you can, with Pats and now, Kansas City.

Just the way and style of play that they showed in the playoffs and, you know, regular season, but playoffs specifically, is a brand of football that's gonna win you a Super Bowl.

Good line play, good running play. And then in the Super Bowl, we saw Hertz make some plays, some really good plays, which were to give granted him Super Bowl MVP.

I know they can't do and this is not taking away from Jalen Hertz because everyone always tries to take stuff away from Jalen Hertz.

So we'll say, Jalen Hertz, you are undoubtedly the Super Bowl MVP, but the difference to me was the defensive line play and just the way they absolutely annihilated the Chiefs' offensive line.

So if there was a collective MVP award, I'd probably grant it to the Eagles' defensive line, but that doesn't take anything away from j Jalen Hurts.

I thought he was excellent last night, and we're gonna talk about, some cards that, he, that sold last night.

But maybe before we do that, isn't Jalen hurt Jalen hurts is gotta be a guy we gotta just get behind because whenever he's whether it goes back to Alabama Mhmm.

Into the pros now, like, he was super hot, Super Bowl, and then everyone wanted to hate on him, say it was the team, this and that. But can we can we can we finally put some respect on Jalen Hurts' name?

Are you ready to do that? I'm I'm ready, and I am so ready. I wanna challenge you. Somebody tell me why he wouldn't be the most valuable quarterback in the 2020 class when it comes to cards right now.

I was just thinking about this. I was just thinking about this. Somebody tell me why, and I won't it won't matter because you can't you can't convince me that it shouldn't be.

But I wanna hear those reasons. And I'm talking about now. I'm not talking about what are we predicting will be the case twenty years from now because we don't know. But right now, he's been to the most Super Bowls.

Right? He's been to two. Burrow's been to one, and that's it. He's actually won one. He redeemed himself against the team that beat him. I mean, what else do you want from the guy? He was the Super Bowl MVP.

Like, what else what else do you want from the guy? I mean, what are we waiting for at this point? So I don't it's crazy because I I don't think it's gonna happen, but I do think we should see the gap shrink at least.

It's crazy that I'm saying, like, the gap should shrink, and he he shouldn't just take over, but it's because of where everybody was before the Super Bowl.

That's that's why I am saying he won't take over and be the most valuable because he was so far down the pecking order before the Super Bowl that it's just like all the people that own the guys above him are not gonna let him become more valuable.

It's it's the politics of sports cards.

So we have to revisit this because we did this, man, maybe a month or so longer ago, but we're talking about the that's where my head went immediately this morning. It's like, how do we say Justin Herbert's cards are are more valuable?

How? How do you tell somebody that's not in sports cards that Justin Herbert's cards are worth more than Jalen Hart's cards and then keep them in the conversation to take you serious?

I I don't this is one other thing is I know statistics matter, but I don't care about statistics No.

Over accomplishments. I don't. Here's the thing. If Mahomes would've won the Super Bowl this year, nobody would've been talking about his statistics.

They would have been talking about him winning a third Super Bowl, and that's why he's great. So, like, why can't why does that not exist for for Jalen Hurts? Right? Can we revisit the we gotta talk about this.

I wanna revisit this moment in time where we just recently and I wanna talk about his Black Finite twenty twenty Black Finite sale that sold December eighteenth of twenty twenty two for a hundred and 44 k.

Now, Ry Dollar rips on Instagram has just an congratulations, partner.

You have an insane j Jalen Hertz collection and is the owner of that card. And we did a reel on it, and you at the time, it was like, there's no way that this card would come anywhere close to this was the perspective.

And people tagged him on the post. And he couldn't have been a a better sport about Yeah. The commentary and conversation. So I just wanted to go back, and I wanted to, one, just say, like, okay.

Like, different story now that this guy is not only a Super Bowl champ, a Super Bowl MVP, but I don't know. Like, how do you think about that sale in that moment of time? Obviously, it was a different market and different stuff.

But, like, what does, Super Bowl MVP and a Super Bowl do for his best card? Or, like, how how do you think about that after the confetti has hit the ground? So I think we did that episode I think it was before the playoffs.

I think so too. So so take that into consideration. I still believe at that time it wouldn't have sold for a hundred and 40 4 thousand. And it's crazy fast forward a month and a half, two months later.

I think it could sell for $2. 50 right now. I think it should. I don't know if it would, but I think it should. And, dude, I'm so glad you brought up the owner of that because, yes, he handled that conversation so well.

And I'm, like, pumped for him now. Like, I'm like, this dude had conviction in this. He didn't care what we were saying about the car.

He even said in there, like, it's not going to auction, so it doesn't matter. I'm like, I love everything he's saying, and now I'm super pumped for him that that that his dude won the Super Bowl.

And, like, he can just sit back and be like, I did this the right way. I just held on to it because it's my guy, and I like the card. And, like, I didn't care what was going on.

And and and the the stuff I was hoping would happen did happen. So I love that story. And, yeah, dude, if it went to auction now, I just quick answer, I would put the over under at $2. 50, which is which is crazy.

A couple months later, it it maybe is is selling for three three times what I thought it would probably sell for. And I didn't do the homework ahead of this, but just thinking about obviously, you have Mahomes.

But, dude, think about Panini era, rook prism, rookie quarterbacks in the prism run who have had a rookie card in prism and have won a Super Bowl.

You got Mahomes. There's there's gotta be some others that, Nic Foles was maybe yeah. Nic Foles was a 2012, I think. Yeah. So are we talking rookies, presumably?

Yeah. Yeah. But there's not many. There's not a ton, dude. Gosh. That's such a good one. Yeah. Because it's been like Chiefs, Patriots, and Eagles are, like, the only teams that have won the last ten years, I feel like. Exactly.

So I think, like, I don't know, man. You think about the scarcity around that and then Yeah. Think about his Jalen Hertz best card too. It's like then you can start when you're doing that kind of math and dig into that kind of stuff.

You can start to see the the value of a card like that amongst a collector base, which I think is a fun, exercise to dig into. Yeah. I love that, man. That is that is super interesting.

You brought to my attention, which try to keep this as topical as possible, but you pulled some sales, two auctions, one bin smash on Jalen Hurts, which I think might help tell a story about where his cards were and where their his cards might be going.

So let's maybe cover those first. So the first one here, got it up on the screen for you Patreon subscribers, is the cracked ice, his twenty twenty cracked ice out of contenders out of 22 PSA 10.

This card sold Fanatics Weekly last night as we recorded this for 20,400. Now that's a monster sale. Excellent timing on that card being sold. But the last PSA 10 copy sold January 24, yes, less than a month ago for 10,600.

You're you're you're going from 10,600 to 20,400 in less than a month. This is what our sports cards dreams are made of when you're selling. What's your reaction to this?

Yeah. That one, when I was just going through the sales on Fanatics this morning, that one just jumped out to me immediately when I saw 20,000. I'm like, I know that has not been selling for close to 20,000.

So I was I had to look it up, and I'm like, man, almost two x. Like, okay. This is this is what you wanna see after a guy wins Super Bowl. This is what we want in sports cars, and it rarely happens.

So I was super encouraged by that. I'm gonna do something fun while we go through this. I'm gonna look up the comparable Justin Herbert card and tell you what it's selling for now.

So the Herbert, and it's a PSA ten with the 10 auto, sold in January for $16,006. 08 5. So Hertz on this card has Oh, wow. For this moment has passed mister Herbert. So This is good.

One to one. Yeah. Herbert, unfortunately, man. Talk about, like, you not only got into the playoffs, but then his performance was so putrid. And it's like kick a man while he's down, and then Hertz was the complete opposite.

So the price should reflect that. Shouldn't it? Exactly. And and and this is no like, I think I still think Justin Herbert is a great player and has a lot. Under the Colts. I'd love to have you.

Yeah. Exactly. He could do a lot of things, but we can only measure where we are right now, and they shouldn't be on the same radar. Okay. Next card is the 2019 Select XRC gold prism Jalen Hertz out of 10, PSA nine.

His first rook gold rookie card. Mhmm. This sold for 6,600 on Fanatics last night. The last sale of this was in January January sixteenth for $23. 79. So, again, another just monstrous jump on this thing.

Few weeks, not even a month, and it almost three x. That's amazing. I love I love this stuff. So the Justin Herbert is a tough one. The last sale was a PSA five in January, and it did $39.

60. Okay. The previous sale before that was a b g s nine five last March that did 8,540. So a PSA nine is is probably about the same price right now, maybe a little less than than what this Hertz is just sold for.

Dude, am I crazy to think that, like, if this, and I'm not encouraging this. And if you are the new owner of this card, please don't let me see this.

But if this card just hit the block again Uh-huh. Dude, I feel like it's it's I feel like it would sell for more. Even though that goes against the rules, I just feel like there's a lot of likability.

There is limit limit this card is very limited. I mean, just think about the Mahom I think about the Mahomes version and what it does. And this card will probably never reach that level because Hertz would have to do a ton.

But Mhmm. I don't know, man. He's he has overcome all of the demons, Hertz. He is in the class now of Super Bowl champion MVPs. And if you look at his top 10 best cards, I think this is going to be in the conversation Yeah.

And in there. So I just feel like that's that's a lot of money, $6,600, but I feel like it still has room to grow. Yeah. For for its significance in his catalog, for sure.

Click into the pop. I'm curious if there's even any PSA tens. One. One. So so that's you know, that, you know, that makes the nine a little stronger when there's only one PSA 10 out there.

But, yeah, I bet it's a good point on if this sold again, it could do more, like because I think over the next three to four or two to four weeks, we're gonna see a lot of change in his market.

A lot of cards are gonna hit the market and set new highs and kinda reestablish what his values are relative to other guys.

And then you could look at this card again and say, wait. This guy still sells for more, but on these other cards, Hertz has taken taken over.

So this should be worth more. So that could definitely that could definitely happen, which is crazy to think about. So two auction wins. The the next one is just a casual bin smash via eBay.

And this is his, 2020 rookie immaculate collection shield one of one PSA auto 10. This thing got binned or, yeah, best offer binned. I don't know if it was a bin or they accepted an offer, but it, sold last night for $35,000.

The last sale of this card, as I pull it up, was $15,000 on alt last September. So you're going a $20,000 increase in that's way less than a year. And that's literally, like, first week of the season to the Super Bowl.

Because it was Yes. Denver of 2024. It's literally beginning of the season to the end, and it over two x. Can you, dude, give you a badge if you bought this thing on all Yeah.

And just, like, threw it up on eBay. And then last night, someone came in and was like, yeah. I'll give you $20,000 more than Yeah. For me. Yeah. You're like, yes. Sold. I mean, good for this person, man.

That that's an awesome sale. The Herbert is a BGS95, and it's sold in November for $21,960. Okay. I think it's pretty safe to say it's not gonna be on all cards, but Hertz is gonna take over if he hasn't already.

He's gonna take over Herbert at minimum. I would love to see the Burrow comps. I'm gonna I'm not gonna do that here because it'll take a little bit of time, but I would imagine Burrow's still ahead of him.

Yes. Is it weird that my I'm having a conundrum and thinking, like, love to, Mhmm. Herbert. One hundred percent, I believe, Hertz should be valued more. But I'm I'm having a little bit of more of a complex with Burrow just because Yeah.

I think as a player, Burrow is so much is is an elite he is to me, Joe Burrow is one of the best players in the NFL. And I think just because he's, like, his status and is so high and he has been to the Super Bowl, like, I I don't know.

Like, I'm here to argue probably that Burrows cards should be valued more, but I don't have, like, good ground to stand on to say that outside if he's just a better player.

I see where you're at. It does feel like he's a better quarterback. Right? And and the Eagles are the better team. So I I I do feel that and agree with that. But just a quick one.

So the two the the borough of this card, the 2020 immaculate borough shield auto sold January 31 on heritage, which is probably like, it probably would have sold for more on Golden and Ford Fanatics because this is not really a Heritage card.

PSA authentic with a 10 auto sold for $88,450. Okay. I'm I'm buying the value in Hertz, in that example. Right. The value difference, I think, is a big one there. I'm just gonna look up the crack ice and I'll stop there.

I don't know. Why why can't why can't Hertz win another one next year? Exactly. They I mean, they're gonna be the best team coming back, out of all these guys. So real quick, a Burrow cracked ice PSA 10.

It didn't have an auto grade, but looks like a good auto. Sold February 1 for $24. 04. So it's still sold for more. If that had a 10 auto grade, it probably would would have done, like, 28 to 30 k.

So still still like you said, I think the value right now is within Hertz compared to Burrow, but I agree. If if I'm starting a team fantasy all star draft, I'm drafting Burrow ahead of of Hertz.

And that's no disrespect to Hertz. It's just I think Burrow's one of those type of quarterbacks. Yeah. No disrespect. And this is this this segment was meant to elevate, Jalen Hertz. Yes. Because he is now here's a question for you.

What do you think and I we could do this probably for the whole episode, but I I won't do it. But I'm curious. Like, new MVP, Josh Allen, which you go to the Internet and That's a whole other episode conversation.

That's a whole but, like, how how how do you compare and contrast Yeah. Allen and Jalen Hurts? Yeah. Dude, that's a good one. That's a fun one because it's like Alan's been doing it longer, but, like, he hasn't done as much.

Right? Like, every player in any sport would trade a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP for for an MVP. Like, they would rather have the Super Bowl MVP and Super Bowl win championship than a regular season MVP all day every day.

So it should weigh more. It should mean more. But, man, like, again, if if you just pull people and say who's the better quarterback, I think a heavy percentage are gonna lean towards Josh Allen.

But it's that's where it's fun to figure out how we get stuck in those in those feelings where it's like, okay.

If we just look at what these guys have done so far, Hertz has done more than all of it. Like, he it's it's like Mahomes look. I would still say Lamar, which if you just look on paper, he he I say he only has two MVPs. You know?

Let's say he had a third. Doesn't have a Super Bowl. Right? But I would still probably put him ahead of Hertz, and then I put Hertz, like, right. Like, they'd be, like, two a and two b almost right now. This is your accomplishment.

So you you put two regular season MVPs over the Super Bowl trophy? And I think because I'm in the moment right now, because in my head, Lamar was the MVP this year and shoulda had a second in a row and third overall.

So I think I'm still like, he's asked Mhmm. But he doesn't. Like, when we fast forward and we look back, it'll people won't remember that Lamar had the best season this year. They'll just see that Josh Allen won the MVP.

I don't wanna spend a ton of time on this, but we one of my outside of, like, having fun talking about Jalen Hurts and his market, one of the interesting things I observed was, going to social media and just how ready everybody was to just throw Patrick Mahomes under the bus.

And there there was there he's done like, not my goat, all this stuff.

And it was just like a tidal wave. And I was like, man, like, people like forgetting, like, what he's done. And I'm not here to say, like, Patrick Mahomes, like, needs he doesn't need anything from me or need anything from anyone else.

Bad game, tough loss. But you wanna talk about, like, what this guy's done. Like, I think Patrick Mahomes will be just fine.

And I'm just I'm not here to defend him, but I just think it's interesting that instead of talking about the Eagles and Jalen Hurts, the the move was let's slam the Chiefs and slam, Patrick Mahomes.

I think Mahomes is gonna get the LeBron treatment for a long time. For sure. Because of what because he lost to Brady head to head in their only head to head Super Bowl.

He's chasing Brady. Brady's, like, fan base is established. Right? They're not gonna flip from Brady to Mahomes. Like, Brady guys are always gonna be Brady guys.

So they're gonna draw the line in the sand, and they're gonna be the first ones to bash Mahomes when Mahomes is not successful because it lifts their guy up. It's just the same thing happens with Jordan and LeBron.

And then LeBron has lost in the NBA finals multiple times. MJ never lost in the finals. Right? So, like, there's always gonna be that argument, and that I think that's what's gonna happen with Mahomes.

It's like the people that appreciate him are gonna be blowing him up and hyping him up when he wins, and the people that are comparing him to Brady and and are picking the Brady side are gonna slam him is the minute he doesn't win a Super Bowl, essentially.

Yeah.

My take was that it was like the people there was enough people who were Brady fans or fans of another quarterback, Manning, Montana, whatever, that when they found an opportune it was like they were so tired of hearing from the Mahomes people that when there was an opportunity to jump on Mahomes, they did that, and we we saw that last night.

I think one of the like, Brady lost Super Bowls. He lost three Super Bowls. Mhmm. But I think the notable thing here is I don't think Brady ever really got blown out of those Super Bowls.

They were always close games, and that it Mahomes' two losses weren't the prettiest of losses, so I think that probably factors into everything. Yeah. I think that's fair.

Alright. Let's move on. Nic, as I get these cards rolling, let's talk about this new, maybe format, style, what we're doing, because we're jumping right into some bangers that are going to be up for auction through you.

So talk about that, and I'll get the cards prepared. Yeah. So we're gonna tweak the the spotlight auction that we've been doing monthly.

We're gonna we're gonna not make it its own podcast anymore, and there's a reason for that. We've been getting way more cards in the premier auction, and I don't wanna force five cards on people.

Like, these you know, like, I wanna make sure we're we're talking about cards that have fun stories to talk about, fun fun, educational things to talk about rather than, like, we're gonna have five cards every month, and we're gonna find something to talk about.

And and it's about balance. It's about giving you guys content we think you really want, and it's and and and, diving into things that we know you guys wanna hear about and that we enjoy talking about.

So sometimes it might be like like, this month, this this episode is gonna be two cards. It might be five cards sometimes.

It might be three cards. It just kinda depends what's coming in. But but rather than force five cards in, we're just gonna kinda see what what comes in and talk about the cards that we think are the coolest and have the most to share.

And we're gonna and we're gonna incorporate those into the auction talk episode, that month. So so this month, the February premier auction just started last Thursday.

We're gonna talk about two cards that we have in the premier auction that I think you guys will appreciate that will end February 20. So this will air Thursday, February 13.

These will end the next Thursday. So every month, it'll be like that Thursday in the middle of the premier auction. We'll just talk about them on auction talk instead. Okay. So we've got a these are fun ones.

Let's just let's just rip the band aid and jump right in. First card up, I don't know if there's a set based on football card collectors that have gotten has gotten more excitement and momentum than this one.

And this is the 1998 FLIR brilliance. And when you think about this, probably, most collectible one and done football set in the history of football cards, it's propped up by its top parallel, which is the 24 karat gold.

24 copies of the shine on these things is nuts, and the player we are talking about is Randy Moss. This is a Randy Moss PSA eight rookie to boot.

Man, I I this is just I see this card. It's like, this is a big card. I know what the the Manning how highly coveted the Manning, same rookie class, but just one of, Randy Moss' best cards is available at auction.

So let's let's dig into this. What do you wanna share? There's so much to talk about. Yes. So this is the 98 Fleer brilliance, 24 karat gold out of 24 Randy Moss rookie card, PSA eight.

I mean, like, this is one of those cards that just gets you so pumped when you see it. For one, like, we haven't seen one sell publicly forever. It was July 2022, the last time one of these sold publicly.

This PSA eight is a top five, and there is seven higher, which actually surprised me that there was that many higher and there was that many graded for for how how little we see this sell publicly.

I would've guessed there was just much less grade, and these were just sitting in collections raw for years and years and years.

But the last one that sold was a PSA seven in July 2022, and it did $19,200. It's Moss' second, highest public card sale of all time out of all categories.

His highest selling card ever on record on public record is his 98 PMG, which is out of 50. It was a PSA ten. It sold a month before that PSA seven of this 24 karat gold, and it sold for 24 k.

I think those I think those numbers could be different today. If I think what this will sell for would be more than what a PSA ten PMG would sell for today. That's just my hunch. But, I mean, like, why does this card matter?

Like, what's what's so special about this card? I think 24 karat goals, what we've seen is for football collectors and baseball collectors specifically, this is one of the most coveted nineties parallels that's out there.

Basketball parallels, it's it's maybe a a few down compared to baseball and football, but there's also usually more to choose from on the basketball side as well.

And, you know, each sport kinda collects differently in in in values different parallels more than the other. Kinda like the crusade reds with baseball. It's like it's much higher than it is for football collectors on the list.

But football and baseball collectors both had the the 24 karat goal is very high in the pecking order. It's what's interesting here for Moss is this is a rookie card, so it throws that kinda extra wrench in there.

And Moss is already a top usually, like, a top five to seven seller in the nineties category with, like if you just look at his 99 stuff, right, which is is non it's non rookie, but it's still 99.

Still nineties. He's usually in that five to seven range.

Sometimes he can be higher. But when you jump down to his rookie cards or up to his rookie cards, I guess, he becomes a a top one to three seller. It's usually him, Peyton, and some sometimes Barry Sanders is in that mix too.

Jerry Rice, like, here and there, but it's usually Manning and Moss and then Barry Sanders and then Jerry Rice on the 98 on the big 98 stuff. So, this is a huge card for Moss.

I think this is actually probably I would argue his second most important or biggest non one of one card, and I think his biggest is his his credentials future out of six rookie card. Just an insane card.

We're talking through this, and these will be live by the time they're live. And unless I'm finding some I I can't pull it up yet. Okay. Yeah. There it is. I just didn't hit the tab. I I wasn't even thinking before we recorded.

I'm like, wait. These actually are live right now. So that's that's my fault. We're we're bringing up the live listings, for the Patreon members here so you guys can see the live listings in the video.

Gonna do that right now, so we'll get this squared away. So so maybe, as I'm doing some productions, now I've got the screen going up.

But, yeah, this card, is, dude, it's, I don't know. I just know that the moss collectors are maybe, like, once a card enters a moss collector's collection, you typically don't see it go. Yes.

And so that's maybe I'm surprised by the pop data as well, but I don't know, man. I'm excited to see this one that's already got 26 bids for 15 k. So a lot of top ten days left. So it'll be I'm excited to see where this one ends up.

And one thing I I always like to compare, like, to other significant parallels around that era or that year or whatever and just see, like, what's the what multipliers are we seeing for other guys on this card or this card of that guy.

Right? So I looked at the '98, rubies football compared to the ninety eight twenty four karat gold football players for a few players.

Like, I always go to Manning first because it's the same thing. Right? It's Manning's rookie year. In the '98 rubies, the rookies are at a 35 and the veterans are at a 50.

So there's a little bit of a difference there. So Manning's Manning's twenty four karat gold hasn't sold publicly since November 2021. So, like, to me, the first thing that stands out is like, okay.

The two biggest guys in the set, people don't sell them publicly. Like, that's that's, like, that's your first indicator that people want to own this card for for a long time once they get their hands on it.

The last one to sell, last meeting was a PSA eight that did 24,000 in November 2021, and that was a private sale that was recorded. I don't remember if that was mine. If if that was the one I helped Drake get.

I don't even remember if it was just yesterday, but I helped Drake get one around that time, but it might have been might have been after that or before that. He did 24 k. His rubies, Manning's rookie rubies, had a 35.

B g s nine five did 5,500 a month later. So his 24 karat gold sold for 4. 36 x what his rubies sold for, and that was a PS 8 to a BGS95. If it was like a p s a nine manning rubies, it probably would have done $30.

35 k. So that multiplier could have been closer to, like, six or seven. And that's interesting because Moss had a his 98 rubies rookie. A lot of you guys probably remember this because it was kind of a weird listing.

It was raw, but it had, like, the picture of the PSA, like, thing it came back in that says they wouldn't grade it because it was min it didn't meet minimum size requirements.

So it's basically like an authentic or altered what it would have came back as. And he sold it as is with the picture because he wanted people to know, like, hey.

Just in case you're thinking of grading this, it's not gonna grade. It's still sold for over $7,600 in that condition. A PSA eight of that probably would have done, like, 15 k. I mean, I think double that is is reasonable.

You take that times four x, what we saw with the Manning. I mean, you're looking at a $60,000 card. And just for another comp, just to show, like, is that multiplier real or was it just for Manning?

Vars PSA seven twenty four karat gold did 14,639. His b g s eight five rubies, which is out of 50, not out of 35, did 20 two thousand five hundred and 60 dollars.

That's a 5. 7 x multiplier. So that it's only two examples, but it's the best two examples that we have because these don't sell that often in the high end. And that that multiplier is pretty consistent at four to five x.

So, I mean, I think I think this is a card that that could do 60,000. It would not shock me at all. So it is one of those I'm just super pumped to watch and and see where it goes and where it ends with too.

Yeah. I I love how dude, this card to me, like, five, six years ago, no one would even have thought that this was like a premier level card to sell. But now it's like, this is one of the coolest cards.

And it's just funny how quickly perception can change on stuff like this. I'm so glad you brought that up because when I went to PWCC, when I was a sales rep there for one year, I mean, it was like one every six auctions.

There was a folk there was a nineties football card in the premier auction, and it was like a PMG green, basically.

That that's it. Like, it wasn't like, nothing else was in consideration, and now it's like there's three to four in every auction or more.

I mean, I like, we have two. I think there's, there's an there's a Barry Sanders credentials, BSA 10 in there. So there's at least three. There's probably another couple that I'm not even thinking of. So I love that you brought that up.

The category is just that would be a fun project to look at and just go back in the last, like, four years and and just count how many, total nineties football cards were in premier auction, like, each year or something and compare it.

I I guarantee it's just been a a nice, healthy incline as the years have gone. Well, we've got another one to talk about. So go check out that Randy Moss.

The next card is going to, you would classify it as the same category. I'm gonna pull it up here. Nic, why don't you share what the card is and we can dig into it. So this is the 97, Metal Universe PNG green.

This is serial number 15, out of well, it's out of one fifty, but it's technically the the fifteenth, the last serial number copy because there's 15 copies of this card. Book in. Book in. It would be a book in.

Yes. Emmitt Smith, and it's a PSA five. So this one, it's actually a really clean PSA five. I looked at this and, like, you have to really zoom in, and there's a there's there's a lot of white spots on the surface.

Like, the surface is probably what got hit here, but that's super common with these. Like, when when it's foil across the entire card, like, you're gonna see yeah. If you hit that zoom button, just keep zooming in.

That's what I'm saying. You have to go pretty close. Yeah, dude. It it looks pretty good to be as I'm digging it. Obviously, your standard, like, edging on the 90 stuff, which is to be expected.

But But for a five, it's not like there's, like, a a messed up corner or something. No. Obvious edge chipping. Like, you really gotta get in there to see, which is always encouraging for Dude, I never realized he had the rocket pack on.

Dude, it's one of the coolest, football DMG greens. It it's I'm so glad you brought that up because, like, the Barry Sanders, it's one of the most boring, honestly.

Like, it's just his silhouette. I don't think there's anything cool really happening in the background, whereas, like, Em Smith's wearing a freaking jetpack, man.

Come on. This is awesome. But yeah. So this is a pop one, and there's four higher. The highest grade is a eight five. I think there's an eight five and eight and, like, a seven and six.

So it's not like there's a bunch of nines out there or anything like that. The last one of these we saw so publicly was a PSA eight that did or I think it might have been a eight five that did, 40,000 in December of twenty twenty three.

That was a buy it now. So I I think that's important because a PSA that was an eight five. PSA eight did or PSA seven did 43,000, like, a few months before on auction. So I think that PSA eight five was just price low, to be honest.

We'll know more after this sale, I guess. But, yeah, that's the last sale we we saw. The Emmitt Smith's, like, top five highest card sales of all time are all as PMG Greens.

Like, it's it's been his biggest card to sell publicly, like, every single time. So it's a huge card. But I think, you know, we don't really need to talk about why the PMG green matters. Right? Like, everybody knows this by now.

But where I think it gets super interesting I think it gets super interesting when you compare Emmett to the guy in nineties football because they play the same position. Right? And that's Barry Sanders.

And I think people just go to Barry because of the highlights. Right? The excitement around his style of play. But I think it's interesting that people don't give Emmett more credit for what he actually accomplished as a player.

Right? And if you look so I I looked at some of the data from 1990 through 1997. Emmett Smith or Barry Sanders led the league in rushing for eight straight years, and they both did it four times.

It's like they just that it was their league for, like, eight straight seasons, which is crazy. Emmitt has three Super Bowls. Right? Barry doesn't have any. Emmitt has a Super Bowl MVP.

Emmitt has a regular season MVP and outright regular season MVP. Barry Sanders shared his MVP with Favre, I think it was that year. Emmett led the league in rushing touchdowns three times. Barry only did it one time.

Barry did have six first team all pros. Emmett had four. So that is, you know, a nod to Barry. And then, obviously, Emmett had way more rushing yards and touchdowns and all that stuff, but he played, like, six more seasons.

So, you know, I didn't really count that stat. But where it gets interesting is Barry's PMG red, and it and it's a lot of Barry Sanders' big cards. They usually sell for at least three x what Emmitt sells for.

I just think that's interesting when you, like, you actually stack up their careers and their achievements. We were just talking about how much credit we give Jalen Hurts for winning a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP.

Why doesn't a guy like Emmitt Smith get that same bump compared to other running backs? It does feel like the rules for running backs and wide receivers is a little bit different than quarterbacks, and I think that's interesting.

Start prospecting the guys who are on terrible teams who do highlight real plays and put up ridiculous stats and then their card their cards will be three to four x whatever.

No. No. Not we babe, we're Barry Sanders. Apologists over here. We don't wanna disrupt, but I think, Nic, you're just bringing up an argument for if you are potentially thinking about adding an Emmitt Smith to your collection.

Because this his his name is always gonna be there on those stats. Right? Like, when you when you're just like, I wanna collect running backs. Let me look at the top, rushing leaders of all time. Oh, wait.

It's Emmitt Smith number one on everything. Right? And then you're like, okay. Who won the most Super Bowls as a running back? Oh, wait. Emmitt Smith did as well. Like, I mean, there's probably other running backs that won more.

I don't I don't know that stat. But, like, his name is just ingrained in all the things you're gonna look up out of curiosity about, you know, most accomplished running backs.

So why wouldn't that translate a little bit more to cards? I think that's interesting. And then again, I did some comps on, like, what's a PMG what's PMG greens and reds selling for us on some other guys, and what's that multiplier?

We saw the Elway, green BGS eight sell for $45,600 in December. A lot of people talked about that sale when it happened.

It was a big one. His PSA seven sold for $38. 40 in October. That's a 12 x multiplier from his red to his green to his red, about the same grade. Marino, had a green PSA eight sell for 27,600 in December 2023.

His red BGS eight sold that same month for 4 k. That's a seven x multiplier. Again, about on the same same grades. So, you know, if you took this, Emmitt Smith's PMG red PSA six five sold for 6,200, that's his most recent PMG red sale.

If you took the seven x multiplier we saw on the merino, that would put that at $43,400. If you took the 12 x multiplier we saw on the Elway, it would put his Emmett's PMG green at $74,400.

Obviously, a huge range is probably somewhere in the middle there, but I think this is one of those cards that's, like, could be 40,000. It could be 70,000.

It could be anywhere in between. But I think the overarching thing for me is, like, maybe we maybe we should give Emmett a little more credit than what we do on the, card value side for what he's accomplished in his career.

Incredible card. Incredible cards. Couple bangers. Go check those out. Nic, that was fun to start off with some heat out of the gates. I wanted to dig into so if get my stuff together here, dig into some auction, house recap.

Yeah. And I also say just, like, being a position of a content creator, there is a lot of stuff that is sent to me, emails, pitches. A lot of the stuff, I just ignore because it's not put together really well.

But I'll say this. Like, most of these bigger companies, they have PR firms that do the outreach. Well, I got get a message from, the PR firm that represents Golden, and they do a very nice job of, like, consolidating sales.

Say, hey, Brett. Here are some sales that happened on our platform. And so I took the time, and I was like, alright.

This is a pretty good email. Let me dig through. And I was like, alright. There's some cards that sold a couple weeks ago that I think would be fun to talk about. And mostly, I think this player is someone we haven't talked about.

But, dude, I I can't get anywhere without and speaking I was mentioning Bill Simmons earlier. Like, Bill Simmons' favorite guy. It's like, I can't listen to Simmons pod without them glorifying the next big thing into Eamon Thompson.

But Eamon Thompson's twenty twenty three Nebula sold it golden, PSA eight for $59,780, making it the highest Thompson card ever sold.

In May, his, black shimmer sold for 46 k. But, dude, there's is there a like, from a prospect perspective, like, we know, like, how good, like, Paolo is and, like, some of these younger guys.

But is there there's just seems like he is the guy right now that the hobby is, like, running around.

It's like Eamon Thompson. You've got me talking about him, but I don't know. Like, reflecting on the sale, like, what do you think of Eamon Thompson?

What do you think about this sale? Yeah. That feels like huge number, man. Because I've heard the chatter about him, but, like, I don't know. I haven't tuned into him.

So, like, to me, it's like, it hasn't been enough for me to be like, I gotta go watch this dude now, you know, because it feels like it is just like, okay. We need another guy to get excited about, and this is a guy.

I get it. The Rockets, you know, for a minute there were like the two seed in the West. I think they're like the four or five now, but they're young, exciting, like, up and coming type of team.

Tons of young talent on that team. Like, I they they would I can see why people would wanna watch that team and then try to find the guys that are, like, present value. And then all of a sudden, he breaks out.

And he's he's one of those dudes that can do a little bit of everything. So those are always guys that that are more valuable because you're not relying on, like, he has to score 40 or, like, people stop caring about him.

It's like he can contribute in so many different ways. So I do get it. But it's also like, man, it feels like a lot. Feels like a lot.

Like, what's his black Prism worth? I mean, you're talking about three Prism cards that could be worth over a hundred and 50 combined for a guy. Like, I feel like you have to have accomplished some things to be in that category.

Next card, which he's accomplished some things, but this one was on golden tube. This is the twenty twenty two prism cutter, Lionel Messi, gold prism out of 10, PSA 10.

Dude, this thing, I just had to put it because it was such a monster. This sold via auction for a hundred and $3,700, which made it the fourth highest Messi gold prism sale of all time.

So to just an absolute beast of a sale. This is overnight. It's just like, man, if you wanna have conviction around just, like, gold prism in general Mhmm.

Like, you look at the top guys in their respective categories, but just just look at the performance of a card like this, which I would never have guessed that that's what this card would sell for.

Although, I'm no soccer guru or I don't follow the market outside of doing content and stuff like this, but to me, that just seems like a mammoth sale.

Yeah. It does feel like a big one. I think I think we touched on this on one of the episodes.

It might not have been messy. It might have been somebody another soccer player, but there's just there's not a a prism every single year. Right? It's the prism world cup, and it's so it's like every every few years.

Like, I think Messi has, like, maybe five prism goals. It's not like he has you know, like, LeBron has 14 or 13 at this point now. Right? And Prism didn't start for till ten years into his career, and he still has 14 of them.

So it's like, when you look at it like that, like, it's no wonder Messi's in in the soccer selection overall, it's so much there's just less to choose from.

So when you when you take all of it into consideration and really, figure out, like, how many good cards he has or how many good cards he doesn't have, actually, it makes sense that almost all of his gold prisms would flirt with six k or six figures or more.

Yeah. Awesome card. Last card, which we're gonna spend a little bit more time since we haven't got to to talk about, this guy here, which is, Luka Doncic. Have you ever heard of him? He's topical in the news.

But his 2018 Select prism gold quartzite, BGS nine sold on eBay, February second via auction for 16 k. What's interesting about this sale is the last sale of this card was a nine five in April of twenty twenty three, sold for $15.

06. So we're seeing, likely, based on recent news, change of scenery, that sort of thing, We're seeing a lower grade a few years later, elevating in price over its the Jemmet copy.

So, dude, I've always thought, like, in Lucas' catalog, to me, this seemed like just an incredible card.

I like the court side stuff, but just yeah. It's fun to see one of these things pop. Good timing of the sale. But what do you think about this card and this sale? Yeah. It was good to see. I'm you know, we're we're select guys.

Like, this is one of the last good years of select on the basketball side, which golds are always at a 10, but it's like the rest of the select product, you know, the less the rest of the parallels weren't too saturated at this point.

So I always had an affinity towards this parallel. I think it's interesting where we've come. Like the Mahomes, I'm thinking of the Mahomes of this card, and we sold the BGS nine five for, like, 35,000, like, before the season.

It's probably, like, a $50,000 card now. And it I just remember the days where Luca always sold for more than Mahomes, and it was just didn't matter what Mahomes had done and what Luka hadn't done yet.

It was just Luka was more than Mahomes. So it's interesting. I also look at this card, and now I'm like, man, I can't wait to see his Lakers gold stuff.

Yes. It's gonna look super sharp, and people are gonna go nuts for it. So will there be will there be one year? One one one prism gold? Yeah. Well, so so that's such a great point. There there's gonna be one there should be.

Right? One Luka Lakers prism. Hopefully, they put him in the Lakers gear. Will they put it oh, dude. If it's Lakers gear and then it says or if it's Mavs gear and says Lakers on it, those are, like, the worst the worst cards.

And then but then also, like, what if he doesn't sign with the Lakers? What if he doesn't resign with the Lakers? And this is like you just have one it's almost a risk to buy them in unless he's already signed at that point.

But just aesthetically, I feel like those are gonna be super sharp looking cards, and people are gonna people are gonna go nuts for those.

Yeah. So we're not done talking about Luca. We're gonna skip over a section and just dive right back into talking about Luca.

But I thought it was, dude, I saw it in a classic Instagram reel of, this card being promoted by mister Ken Golden. And, of course, there of course, there is a Did it start with the single greatest and then whatever it was?

I think so. If I'm I would I would bet. I would bet. I bet I bet on some things last night, and, oh, don't take my betting advice because I didn't make any money.

But, this this card is the 2018, '20 '19, prism gold prism PSA 10, Luka Doncic. This is a pop four. It's currently on gold in twelve days, two hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

I saw my man, Chris McGill, pull out his copy and and share it this week, which which I loved. And he was, like, talking about how he doesn't like to repost his cards or whatever.

But, like, he also said the most important part of the post is he's on the card for six years. In in this era, like, when you own a card for six years, that's true love to me. It's like fighting temptation, fighting everything.

And so we're seeing these pop up at auction. Collectors are saying, hey. Here's my copy. I think part of that is based on Luca's transition into LA, but what I wanted to do was talk about well, let's just talk about the data first.

So there has been four this is what I wanna do. This is the question, and I'm putting you, put throwing it right at you, Nic, and we're gonna hold you accountable.

Yes. Always. Okay. So there has been four public sales of the Luca Prism Gold rookie card, which, in my opinion, I would put it on the Mount Rushmore, take the one of ones out, but just, like, think about our kind of cards.

Like, this is on my Mount Rushmore of, like, Panini era cards. Mhmm. I think it's just really important time and place, player, all that stuff. So there's been four public sales.

I'm a walk through them. You had the February 1 via auction twenty twenty one. You had Golden selling a PSA 10 copy, and I had not checked certs on this, by the way. I haven't gone that far yet. They sold the first copy for $780,000.

This is during the boom. That's a big number. Yeah. You have in April 7, you had Golden sell copy for 645,000, then we didn't see another copy sell until 10/14/2022, which was a private sale, and the car b g s nine sold for $450,000.

And then the most recent public sale was 02/25/2024. The BGS nine copy sold via Fanatics weekly auction for a hundred and $68,000. 4 sales, two BGS nines, two PSA tens. The PSA ten hasn't sold publicly since 2021.

Where what are we doing? What what where are we going with this one? What's your prediction? This person got so lucky with the timing because this this went live before he got traded to the Lakers.

So, like, he got that extra little juice while, while this thing is live. So, it's already at $2. 20 before a buyer's premium, and the buyer's premium is what?

Like, 75% with Golden? Twenty or 22? I think it's '22. It feels like 75. So it's like, you're talking about an extra 45, 50 thousand. So it's at, like, $2. 70 right now all in.

There's twelve days left. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say $3. 75. And it feels crazy because I don't even know if a Mahomes PSA 10 would do that. It should, but, you know, PSA nine did, like, $1. 50. So I'm gonna say $3.

75 on this as long as, like, nothing bad happens in the next twelve days with the Lakers. Right? If he, like, comes out and breaks his ankle or something, you know, as long as he just comes out and looks normal, then I say $3.

75, which which is big. I think that's still a big sale. Even though we saw that 700 and whatever, four years ago, I don't think we should go off that.

It was just different different times. So $3. 75 on this is my my guess, and I think that'd be a strong sale. That would definitely be a very strong sale. Timing is everything in sports cards.

Excited to see where that one lands. We got a smaller mailbag today, so we'll hit these really quick. I guess, first from my our friend Drake here. People are wanting to know I just wanna know where your head's at.

He's he's wanting to know if if you're what are you doing with the the no recent comps newsletter and over and under? Like Mhmm. Is there any update there? Are you just is it on the shelf? Like, maybe give an update.

It's on the shelf, man. I, so the plan was to bring it back, but then it was like, man, I can I'm able to do so much other stuff that's just honestly more important for the business and for the client customers.

Right? Like, they're actually getting a better experience since I've cut that out because the newsletter is honestly, like, took a lot of time.

It took a lot of time to put together each week, and I just don't have that time right now, until I make stuff on the consignment side a little bit more efficient.

So right now, it's it's on the shelf. I'm not gonna say that I'm never gonna do it again, but it's not in the plans, this year.

I would be shocked if it's back in 2025, but it's not. Never say never. Okay? Never say never. There is your WARF, update on, the content side. We got a good one from Gelman that I wanna sink it dig into.

WWE Gilman, Adam Gilman says, as the market grows and things become more volatile as collectors and dealers do battle an auction, is it required that we need to have an us versus them mindset?

I can't I can't exist without both buyers and sellers occupying their respective categories spaces. Can both exist to betterment of the marketplace in general. Think part of I had a little chat with Adam after he sent this.

I think there is a lot of sentiment that he's sharing regarding the, like, do we need to segment people who consider themselves true collectors versus others that are buying cards to flip this and that.

Like, I think he agrees, which I agree, we need each other in order for make this to make this all work.

It doesn't mean that the display of some of the characters and other categories are always going to be super exciting to us as a flipper, a seller, a dealer, a collector, but I don't know.

Like, I think we all need each other in order for the ecosystem to to exist and for prices to continue to elevate.

But what say you, Nic? Like, what how do we handle the the different characters, the different interests, and kinda make for a successful, hobby? Yeah.

I've always been on the side of but, like, this is an ecosystem, and we need every part of the ecosystem for it to thrive. Right? It's just, like, in nature. Like, if you take you know, it's like everybody hates snakes or something.

Kill all the snakes. Well, then the whole ecosystem would actually collapse, and we wouldn't we don't realize that until we get rid of something in the ecosystem.

Right? It's there for a reason, for the ecosystem to thrive. So and I think I think where I struggle is that I don't feel like most of us are actually honest with ourselves.

Most of us are are both, and we just don't where I struggle is, like, the the person that wants to call themselves a true collector, when they sell cards, why aren't they a flipper? But when the flipper sells cards, they're a flipper.

Right? Because even if you're a collector and you sell cards, if you're being honest with yourself, you're you're you're trying to make money. You're hoping to make money on those cards just always.

Just like a flipper. Right? Like, Brett, I I think most people would call you a true collector. I think you'd call yourself a true collector. And I think if, like, you had to pick I had to pick, I would say you're a true collector.

But you sold cards recently that you just picked up recently. Right? And you didn't buy them to flip them, but you flipped them because they weren't fitting into your collection at the time.

So that's that's kinda where I struggle is, like, why if both if two people do the same thing, why is somebody a flipper in in a and if if they're a collector, they're not a flipper even though they do the same thing as the flipper.

I it for me, it always comes down to when I buy something, I buy with the intention to always keep.

But the fact of the matter is is I cannot afford to keep everything, and I like a hobby experience that is refined, that evolves, and tastes change. So inevitably dude, if it two cards that I sold this past week, Mannings.

Dude, I I wish I could keep these cards. I I 100% wish. But the fact of the matter is it's too much money to just hold those cards instead of using those cards to apply to my next purchase or to go put into stacking slabs the business.

And so those are the decisions, me personally, I have to make, and so many other collectors out there have to make either.

I think it's the, the thing that turns people off in the hobby is when it's so blatant that they're winning an auction and out they're paying, you know, above and beyond for a card, and then tomorrow, it shows up on another platform for two x, what it just sold for.

And that's what gives the flipper crowd a bad name. I think flippers provide a excellent flippers provide a tremendous service.

They find cards for collectors that we don't have time to, and they present those cards, and that is required and needed. I just think the approach and the personality of different audience members in that crowd might turn people off.

But, like, dude, I don't know anybody. Well, I I don't know. I don't really know anyone who doesn't, like, sell sell their cards because it's I mean, if if if I didn't have to sell my cards, I wouldn't.

But, unfortunately, I'm not, as financially successful as to to be able to do that, or I don't have a money tree out back Yeah. Where I can just go grab some dollars and buy my next grail.

I love that. So I think I think what I think what people most people, agree on and and kind of grow frustrated with is, like, the extreme flipper. Right? It's like, I don't care about anybody else in this hobby.

All I care about is making money on this card that I buy. Like, it's like a % that's what they are. Right? You know, that's that's an extreme. And I think, you know, the extreme collector annoys the crap out of a lot of us too.

Let's be honest. Like, they're like, I never bought a car to make money, and I, I've had all my cars for nine hundred years. And I like, people get annoyed with those people too if we're being honest.

Like, I think I think we're in I think 95% of us are right in the middle. Right? But, like, we're just not being honest. We're like, I have to neglect or I have to be a flipper. I can't just be a little bit of both sometimes.

Right? But I do think intent is probably the kicker. Right? Like, when you buy the card, what's your intent? And only you know that. Right? So, like, that's why I poke fun and, like, are we being honest with our intent all the time?

Like, even if you're a collector, when you make a purchase, you're gonna say no sometimes if you don't think there's future value on that on that purchase.

Even if it's gonna go in your collection. Right? You're not just gonna spend two x because it's a card you want for your collection. You're not gonna do that every time. Sometimes you might.

You're gonna say, I don't think it's worth that. So that's a flipper mindset. Right? So I just I just don't think we're totally honest with ourselves on what we are, and we feel like we have to identify with collector or flipper.

And I think it's okay to be in the middle, and I think most of us are. I was tell I was telling you that, you know, I you know, being a consolidator is what I'll classify myself as as I talk about this.

One of the things that I have, really started to understand in throughout that experience, and I've also talked on record of, like, the enjoyment.

I hate selling cards, but I do get enjoyment. Last night, I was literally sitting watching auctions close as I'm watching the Super Bowl, and there's some sense of excitement around that.

But I think for me, in cards that I sell, even if they're cards that I really love, like, if I find that they're starting to step outside of a primary collection that I'm really focusing on, whether that's a player or whether that's a specific product, then that gives me and that that's my first nudge to consider selling that card, then maybe fund another card.

But then the second kicker, and this is what I think my transformation has been, it's like, when I can look at card ladder and look at the data and see, this card hasn't sold in in three years and I know what I have here, That that, falls outside this category.

And, also, like, I know what I have, and it hasn't sold.

Like, I have a curiosity to see, well, why should I let someone else go see what what they can get? That should be me, especially if I'm having these conversations in my head about buying something different.

So everyone's gonna have their own process Mhmm. For selling cards, but the that has been my the way I've kind of thought through justifying getting rid of some cards is, like, walking through my own qualification process.

And I'd like to be the first one to sell a card that that hasn't sold in a while. And I'm okay with me being the one to test the market with it because I don't I just what I wouldn't want is me selling a card.

There's 10 copies and then or thinking about it, and then someone comes out and sells the card and they get what I would have dreamed to get, that sort of thing.

So it's it's different for everybody, buddy, but that's kind of the way I've processed it over the last, like, year or so.

Yeah. I love that. And I feel like you I feel like you've really grown to like, you just know what you want in this space now.

Like, you've gotten to that point where you've tried so many different things and you've done things different. You've collected different segments and, like, you know you know exactly what you want from your collection.

And sometimes that involves, you know, trying to sell something for a little bit more so that you can afford this card that you want that cost more in your collection.

Like, I think it what I'm really trying to say is I think it's okay if we're a little bit of both.

Yeah. And I'll take that stance when I don't think a lot of people will. I love it. Final note for me, and I'll say this just as I'm reflecting on my personal story. I I like this is what I like about the hobby.

I like imposition. I like if there is a card that's a thousand dollars or more, if it pops up on eBay and I need it for my collection because it fits in that, I don't do I don't wanna have to think like, oh, can I afford this?

Can I Yeah? No. I just wanna be able to buy it.

And so in order to be able to buy it, in order to do that and to live in that mindset of not fear being fearful, but being very proactive and on offense, I have to be okay with after the fact looking at my collection and being, alright.

Some of this stuff has to go. So I think it's just what position do you wanna be? Like, how do you do you wanna be on offense? Do you wanna be on defense? And I don't know. It's a good time. It's the beginning of the year still.

Like, have that conversation with yourself. My mindset on how I approach my buying and selling has changed dramatically over the last two years. And I think I'm I've talked about I'm having more fun collecting cards than ever before.

Yeah. I love it. And and I feel like I've seen that in your collection. It's become more like like, I could look at your collection and just know you and be like, these are Brett's cards. You know what I mean?

Like like, you once you get to know the person and what they what they get excited about and what they talk about the most, like, you should see that in their collection. And I don't it's it's not always the case with me.

Right? Like, my collection gets wonky sometimes where I'm like, all I talk about is Jerry Rice, and I have, like, all my best cards are not Jerry Rice right now. What's going on? So, that's cool that you've been able to evolve that way.

And and I see it, you know, just with with getting to know you better. It's like, I just feel like you're you're so much more refined with your collection today. It it takes a while.

I'm excited. Good question, Adam. Let's move over to Wharf Performance from auctions that closed this week. What are we looking at? Yeah. So we sold a hundred and six cards. They did, a hundred and $48,081. So, good auction.

Like, Super Bowl Sunday, you never know what's you know? I had confidence because I've done this long enough. I I knew cards would do well. They actually all performed very well. There wasn't anything that was like, ah, man.

Maybe that got lost on Super Bowl Sunday. Literally didn't feel that way about a single card. There was one card that stuck out in a in a surprising way that we talked about, and it was the, Elena Delle Don PSA nine gold Prism2022.

Sold for a hundred and $32. And I'm just like I mean, that's about right. Like, I think the last time it sold was for, like, 200, like, a year ago, so it's not a surprise that it went down. She's not playing anymore.

Like, it's not WNBA season, but it's also, like and there's a multiple I think she's won multiple MVPs, maybe even a championship. Her one of her gold prisms. I don't care what year it was. It was like her fourth year.

She only had five, I think. So for a hundred and $32. Hey. I all all eyeballs that they continue to be as I'm seeing the some of the Caitlin Clark prism stuff begin to drop, everyone's gonna be running there.

Like, there's a turn left when everyone's going right. There's plenty accomplished, fun, exciting players to collect, And this is coming from a massive Caitlin Clark fan. I just love the WNBA as a category in prism stuff.

It's just a good place to be. And I just it takes me back to when I got back in. I'm like, you could buy gold prisms all day of, like, pretty good players for a couple hundred dollars. Yeah. Rookie cards.

Like, rookie cards. Like, I mean, it's, like, crazy to even think that that time exists now because it's like if you are if you were a first round draft pick in the NBA, you're you're talking you're talking about 30 players.

Like, your best rookie cards are four figures minimum, like, and then and then working your way up.

So kinda it kinda feels like it's, like, ten years ago with where where you are with WNBA cards. Alright. So we got five more cards from you to close this out. So let's let's talk about those.

We're bringing back a Yeah. Yeah. We gotta get we gotta get It's been a while. Hall of fame. Right? Yeah. It's been a while. This is mister Barry Bonds. This is a 2,000 upper deck, pros and prospects signature jersey.

So it's a game worn jersey piece on card auto PSA 10. It is a pop two. This is one of those segments of cards where I just don't think people know because it gets kinda wonky.

It's it kinda reminds me of the NFL shield market where it's just so it's player it's different for every player on what they have, and it's like some players first were in '97, some were in '98.

Barry Bonds, as far as I could find, this is his first game worn jersey auto card, the year that he had an auto card, February. He didn't have anything prior. Whereas, like, Griffey had the UD game jersey '98, I believe it was.

Like, there were some other guys in that set. Some dudes had some 99 game jersey cards. Like, Barry Bonds' game worn jersey auto cards license stuff is, like, almost nonexistent.

Like, it's it's it's nuts. But you have to do a lot of research to to actually know that. And, again, it's different from player to player, so that probably kind of frustrates some people in their in their learning process.

It's like, I can't even figure I can't get, like, anything consistent in this to be like, okay. Everybody's first is in February or everybody's first is in '99.

So that probably holds this car back a little bit, but it's also what gets me excited about it. It's like you have to learn a lot about that market to know how important this car is. But it's a nice auto.

It's just a jersey piece like a a small gray jersey piece, so it's not the most, like, eye catching, jersey patch or window. I I will give it to that. It's more significant because it's a first or early bonds, Game More Patch Auto card.

These nev, like, never sell. I think this is, like, the second time a PSA tennis sold. It's like a $1,500, maybe up to $2,000 card, so it's extremely affordable.

But I think it'd be a fun place. Like, if you wanted to collect bonds, I think looking at his Game worn jersey and Game worn patch auto stuff will be a super fun place to collect and surprisingly affordable place to collect.

I always love looking at Barry Bonds. He's always got a great autograph. So really cool card. True. Definitely didn't realize the scarcity around his game worn stuff.

Next one up, how about a Lakers Rodman for you? The worm, man. Yeah. It's always fun to see him in those, like, post goals. Ancillary teaser. Rocket number 73. This is the '98, Skyboxy X Century Essential Credentials Future out of 75.

Then it's driving. It's a PSA nine. There's only four PSA nines and and just one PSA 10 out there. So I don't think the PSA 10 is sold maybe ever. It definitely hasn't sold recently. So, again, like, a a cheaper way to collect Rodman.

If you're a Rodman guy, like, you do remember him playing for the Lakers, obviously, like, you remember him as a bull first and probably a spur second, maybe a piston third, but or whatever, you know, you could flip that order around.

But you probably do remember the the the Lakers' rodman because it was just a different and fun time, but a much more affordable credentials than his than his 97.

Right? And then Affordable and Rodman typically don't go together these days. Nineties too.

Yeah. Yeah. But, a lot of people like I I always think this is a fun debate. And and I think I'm on the side. Like, I I I think I prefer the 98 this design overall over the 97, which I think 90% of people or more probably prefer the 97.

But if you didn't know the value of either, I think it might be skewed a little bit more towards the 98 with the design because they I I just like how they incorporate the jersey color in there too, and it's different for each player.

So it's it feels like a little more personalized player to player and card to card, but it's an unpopular opinion. But these are a lot more affordable than the 97.

There's no doubt about that. Awesome card. Always fun to see Rodman in his mini, jersey types. Yeah. When I saw this on the sheet, I I originally read it in my mind as Shawn Michaels pop star.

Oh, you got you got super pumped when you saw this. I did, but still excited. Shawn Marion is a nice alternative, The Matrix, and this card defines kind of how I think about Shawn Marion in my mind.

So go ahead and tell the audience what it is. Yeah. It was too cool of a card, and we've never mentioned Sean Marion on this podcast, I don't think. I'm like, I gotta get him in there. Yeah. I love it.

So this 02/2009 Topscrone Superfractor '1 zero '1, Sean Marion, PSA '9. He's in his Raptors uniform. Looks like he's about to dunk on somebody or maybe a put back dunk or something, but I I love you called out his Nicname, the Matrix.

He was one of those dudes that was just like, get a stretch there where he was, like, a pretty elite player. Had one of the wonkiest jump shots or set shots, I guess, of the era.

Like, I'd always remember his wonky shot, but he was actually a decent shooter, which was funny. But one of those guys that just played different enough and was good enough that, like, it's hard not to remember.

And these Topscrone Superfractors, like, they're just they've been going nuts, man. We sold, like, like, a Ricky Davis o seven or o eight sold for, like, $2 or 2,500.

Like, we sold a Carl Landry last night for, like, I think it did 1,800 or 1,900. It's like, not many people know Karl Landry, but it was top Top Strong's super fracker one zero one from, like, o eight or o '7, so it matters.

But I'm just like Karl Landry. I'm thinking about my days when I was in my degenerate fantasy basketball days. I'm like, I need some boards tonight. Pick ups. Let me go pick up Carl Landry off of the waiver wire and grab me some board.

If he scored any points, it was just a bonus. Like, you knew he was gonna get, like, six to 12 rebounds, though. Yeah. The superfrackers, man. They're just any category right now.

People are I think it's it's amazing how it's taken these they've always been popular, but I feel like now, like, they're they're getting it they're due just in terms of the the the price they're going for. For sure.

This one's cool. And by the way, these are all on the Fanatics Weekly. They end Sunday, February 16. I don't know if we mentioned that. But this is a 2021 Panini '1 on one black, one of one. A lot of ones there. LaMelo Ball PSA 10.

So this would be a second year LaMelo, Panini won, Black one zero one. It's sitting at $21, and then then Sunday. Like, that's that's crazy. I mean, it actually won't end that low, but I'm surprised this isn't gone higher.

And LaMelo's having, like, an amazing year. Like, this is the LaMelo everybody thought we were gonna get coming into the league, and it just took him a while to stay healthy and get there.

But he's, honestly, he's been a lot of fun to watch. I have to admit. Like, that team is a little more exciting. I mean, there's still the Hornets, but, like, he keeps the excitement, around that team and around the game.

And he is having, like I mean, he's having a a huge season, and I feel like it's not it's not really getting talked about that much, probably because his team's not that great.

But this is a fun card. Right? Like, his black prism from 2021 is who knows what it sells for now? This is a much better value.

And Brett and I have talked about the Panini ones, like, aesthetically and in hand. These are beautiful, beautiful cards. Yeah. Awesome. And also a PSA 10 to boot. This I I just love the photography on Panini one and one.

So Sure. Sweet card. Last one to to round us out. A guy we just spent some time, I think, last week or the week before talking about. Yeah. So this is the o seven exquisite limited logos out of 50.

Kevin Durant. Rookie patch auto. This is a BGS eight five. Really nice patch. Really nice auto. The last one last copy of this card that we saw sell, I think, was, like, almost a year ago maybe.

It was a BGS nine that sold for, like, a little over 13 k. Again, like, it feel it just feels like to me for a guy like Kevin Durant. You're talking about exquisite. You're talking about limited logos.

And this this year, the o seven was out of 50. Like, I looked at the LeBron. Right? Different categories, different level of guy. I get it. I'm not saying Durant should sell for what LeBron sells for even in the same, breath.

But LeBron's rookie, it's o three, so it's the first year of exquisite that gets a bump, but it's out of 75. His limited logos is out of 75, and a b g s seven a b g s seven out of b g s eight five sold for 90 k.

It just feels like feels like a huge gap when you're talking about a 50% more print run, a lower grade, like a pretty decent chunk lower grade, and it sells for, like, 8 x.

And these guys are both probably I mean, they're probably the two best players from this era.

I mean, you can maybe throw Steph in there. I mean, I would I would throw Jokic in there, but I don't think you know, a lot of people would right now maybe.

But you're talking about a top 10 player of all time maybe. And I feel like that gap is is pretty big, and it and I think it's just because where we are in Durant's career.

Right? Like, he's just like he's on the Suns. Like, are they gonna compete for a championship? They didn't make any moves at the trade dime deadline.

Like, there's just not excitement around around him and his team right now, but that just makes this type of card, I feel like, one of those buy and just hold for years and years and years and and see what happens.

And and I think there's some opportunity there. Supersonics too, man. And I think yeah, dude. I think that's awesome. Maybe maybe people don't like it.

I'm not I'm not sure. I always enjoy that. I always enjoy that about his rookie catalog. Yeah. And I'm just trying to figure out why these feel so low, and I'm like, maybe people don't like the SuperSonics.

But I that gives it a bulk for me because it was, like, there was, what, one year he was on Sonic? One year. That they existed, and then people have nostalgia for the Sonics. No. It's an interesting card. Awesome group of cards.

This was fun. Nic, any plugs before we get out of here? Stay tuned, man. We're gonna we're gonna add another piece of content. It might be its own podcast to replace the spotlight podcast. We're still kinda discussing that.

It'll probably be another month or two before we get that rolling, but there will be something new. We're doing a lot of big things, that will be announced over the next several months, but, just consignments and funding right now.

Just, check out the website, check out the Instagram page, DM us with questions that you have, and and we'll get you guys going. Thanks, everyone.

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